Festool Jigsaw TRION PS 300 - out of stock or discontinued?

[mrboult]

Didn’t think i was very passive Coen

In over 10 years I’ve yet to use a Carvex420 i had an issue with. They’re pretty common in the London workshops i frequent.
It’s not as easy to use as the awesome Trion. It lacks the weight and smoothness of motor. But it’ll do exactly what i ask of it every time. Just takes a hair more care. .

I’m curios to hear of anyone who has liked their carvex, but also found other carvex to have problems. . I feel like it’s mostly just people claiming their 25 year old Bosch is better??

I’ve no idea what wobble people are even talking about. Safe to say if it exists, it sure doesn’t bother me.

 

[onocoffee]

I haven't used the Carvex but one of my friends hates the corded version he picked up a few months ago. Says the dust collection tube keeps coming off. I haven't given it a try but I know that most people here seem to favor the Trion.

 

[ReneS]

So far for me, dust collection has been good, even with the shroud up.

Fingers crossed.

 

[Cheese]

I’m curios to hear of anyone who has liked their carvex, but also found other carvex to have problems. . I feel like it’s mostly just people claiming their 25 year old Bosch is better??

I was already a happy owner of the Trion but purchased the Carvex because I wanted to "upgrade". Well that didn't quite work as well as I expected.  [sad]  In addition to all of the already discussed common Carvex issues, I also found that the Carvex was a less capable collector of dust compared to the Trion which really did surprise me if you consider that the Trion was released at least 7 years prior to the Carvex.

You are correct though, this discussion is about whether the Carvex is the 2nd or just the 3rd best jigsaw available.  [smile]

Here's a quick comparison between the dust collection on the Carvex and the Trion with 1/2" ply. Both of the saws were used with the shrouds up because the P1cc I was comparing them to doesn't use a shroud.

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[Coen]

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I’ve no idea what wobble people are even talking about. Safe to say if it exists, it sure doesn’t bother me.

Ahahahaaaaa  [doh]



Well, if that wobble is present on your jigsaw yet it doesn't bother you, into the trash bin with your ratings of any machine.

 

[ReneS]

I’m curios to hear of anyone who has liked their carvex, but also found other carvex to have problems. . I feel like it’s mostly just people claiming their 25 year old Bosch is better??

I was already a happy owner of the Trion but purchased the Carvex because I wanted to "upgrade". Well that didn't quite work as well as I expected.  [sad]  In addition to all of the already discussed common Carvex issues, I also found that the Carvex was a less capable collector of dust compared to the Trion which really did surprise me if you consider that the Trion was released at least 7 years prior to the Carvex.

You are correct though, this discussion is about whether the Carvex is the 2nd or just the 3rd best jigsaw available.  [smile]

Here's a quick comparison between the dust collection on the Carvex and the Trion with 1/2" ply. Both of the saws were used with the shrouds up because the P1cc I was comparing them to doesn't use a shroud.

Cheese - Sorry to be dense, but could you explain what the pictures are showing?

Is it the dust left behind, the dust collected, or something else?

Also, what was cut? I see the pencil line, but it wasn't cut and I don't see anything that looks like it was cut.

 

[Cheese]

Cheese - Sorry to be dense, but could you explain what the pictures are showing?

Is it the dust left behind, the dust collected, or something else?

Also, what was cut? I see the pencil line, but it wasn't cut and I don't see anything that looks like it was cut.

Sorry [member=81880]ReneS[/member] I've posted way too many messages with this forum and just forget about the newer members.  [smile]

The original post was to compare the dust collection capabilities between a Mafell P1cc, the Carvex and a Trion jigsaw using the same jig saw blade.

The comparison was pretty simple, take each of the jig saws and saw a 1/2" thick piece of plywood using a Festool CT 22 dust extractor and record the number of "dust crumbs" that were left behind.

I just made a full depth cut across the ply and took a photo of the dust crumbs left behind. Simple and similar to real world usage.

Don't even ask to see the results from the Mafell P1cc...

 

[ReneS]

Ahhhh. Thanks.

I may try something like that with my Carvex.  After blowing dust around with a cordless Dewalt, the Carvex seems to suck up a lot of dust, subjectively that is.

 

[mrboult]

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I’ve no idea what wobble people are even talking about. Safe to say if it exists, it sure doesn’t bother me.

Ahahahaaaaa  [doh]



Well, if that wobble is present on your jigsaw yet it doesn't bother you, into the trash bin with your ratings of any machine.

Well blow me down!! That’s the wobble we’re talking about. Ffs.

Yes mine and every carvex I’ve used does that. And now I have the issue pointed out to me finally, i remember that it is slightly annoying, and way worse than the Trion in this regard.

My perfectly simple solution is that i don’t approach that start of a critical cut with the saw going full f’ing power!! I just start slowly and carefully like a god damn craftsman using his tools.

I honestly think this has perfectly summed up and highlighted all of my points on this issue. Wonderful tool, undeservedly bashed online by people who regurgitate shifty opinions they’ve read already.

 

[Coen]

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I’ve no idea what wobble people are even talking about. Safe to say if it exists, it sure doesn’t bother me.

Ahahahaaaaa  [doh]



Well, if that wobble is present on your jigsaw yet it doesn't bother you, into the trash bin with your ratings of any machine.

Well blow me down!! That’s the wobble we’re talking about. Ffs.

Yes mine and every carvex I’ve used does that. And now I have the issue pointed out to me finally, i remember that it is slightly annoying, and way worse than the Trion in this regard.

My perfectly simple solution is that i don’t approach that start of a critical cut with the saw going full f’ing power!! I just start slowly and carefully like a god darn craftsman using his tools.

I honestly think this has perfectly summed up and highlighted all of my points on this issue. Wonderful tool, undeservedly bashed online by people who regurgitate shifty opinions they’ve read already.

Has nothing to do with how you start the cut. It has to do with the saw ruining corners all on it's own.

Soo... into the trash bin with your opinions on these machines as they (the opinions) are highly flawed.

 

[mino]

Lets tone it down.

MrB simply has the cut quality requirements (for a jigsaw) set pretty low so even a broken CARVEX can pass. Fine.

I have many such friends, er, most, in that group. The only difference is these would not pay for a CARVEX in their dreams, even a fixed one.

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on topic:
I had the PSC 420 and passed it on before it developed the "pin" problem. Probably because I am gentle with my jigsaws, a must with low quality ones I got my experience with ..

I parted with the PSC as it was just not good-enough for rail cutting I bought it for. The Trion is just plain better at straight cutting - as it should be - compared to a well-working CARVEX. It is good-enough. So is the P1cc which costs twice as much over here ..

Now, on the positives, in my experience a CARVEX is better at tight curves and various weird cuts. I passed it on because I found out the Trion is a requirement for use as a "mobile tracksaw", the Carvex cannot handle that. For the rare cordless use a cheapo and light 12V Bosch is good enough for me.

 

[ReneS]

Now, on the positives, in my experience a CARVEX is better at tight curves and various weird cuts. I passed it on because I found out the Trion is a requirement for use as a "mobile tracksaw", the Carvex cannot handle that. For the rare cordless use a cheapo and light 12V Bosch is good enough for me.

Interesting. Since I work in my shop, I have easy access to a track saw and a table saw.

I bought the Carvex for cutting curves, so I am glad to hear your assessment.

The only none-curve cuts I make with a jig saw (other than cuts that include both a curve and a straight section) are cutting rough sawn lumber into more workable sections. The twists and tensions in rough sawn lumber can be tricky to manage with other saws, such as a circular saw or a chop saw.

 

[mrboult]

Ok. I’ve done more under mounted sinks than i can remember, in £400 - £2000 solid kitchen tops, I’m happy to use my carvex to do the radius corners. Good enough for my eyes, good enough for clients to never question it.

Your mileage may vary.

An example i can find in my phone of a sink aperture I def cut with the carvex.

 

[Coen]

If the eyes of the customer are as good as your camera, I won't doubt it.

 

[PaulMarcel]

For OP or anyone else looking for a Trion, recon has a barrel grip queued up for $206 (-25%)  11th in queue at this time

 

[onocoffee]

Just as a follow-up to this thread. If anyone is still looking for a Trion, Woodcraft of Wilmington, Delaware had the D-handled PSB300 in stock when I was there last weekend.

 

[ReneS]

I've looked at the Festool Recon site but don't see a list of what's coming.

How do you get that?

 

[GoingMyWay]

You can see what's in the queue here:https://www.festoolrecon.com/collections/oneanddone

 

[ReneS]

Thanks!

 

[Crazyraceguy]

I am another who is satisfied with the results I get from a Carvex. I chose Festool over the others for the dust extraction and base selection kit. I chose Carvex over Trion, simply because of the weight. If you ever held both at the same time, you would definitely feel the difference. The Trion feels like a brick in comparison.
I used a Bosch for many years, before the Carvex. All it did was blow the chips/dust forward, a bit like "kicking the can down the road". You catch up to it, because it didn't "go away"
I don't use a jigsaw for anything remotely precision. Mostly sink cutouts, simple little notches, trimming curves close to the line before template routing. I jigsawn edge is never going to be seen.