Festool on This Old House

Saw a bunch of Festools on the most recent episode...Norm even brought out the old OF 2000 (!) to cut some pockets for stair treads, though he did make a positioning jig instead of using the MFS.  ;D
 
promark747 said:
Saw a bunch of Festools on the most recent episode...Norm even brought out the old OF 2000 (!) to cut some pockets for stair treads, though he did make a positioning jig instead of using the MFS.  ;D

Ahhh thats what router that was.  I saw it yesterday and was confused because it didin't look like a 2200, but certinly wasn't a 1400 either.

While Festool may or may not sponser them directly or indirectly, keep in mind they are rather tight with at least Norm and Kevin, both having appeared at Festool Connect.
 
What I've noticed is that on the main show the Festool usage is very noticeable and looks like a lot of product placement.  However on the sister show "Ask This Old House" it is much less prevalent.

Seems to me like a sponsorship deal for the main show, but when it comes to Ask TOH, they won't make the effort of their own accord to use it as much and use other brands like Bosch, Makita, etc on equal footing. In last weeks show Tommy used a Bosch jigsaw and Makita Impact when installing the loft ladder in Ask TOH.

Speaks volumes really!
 
Locks14 said:
What I've noticed is that on the main show the Festool usage is very noticeable and looks like a lot of product placement.  However on the sister show "Ask This Old House" it is much less prevalent.

Seems to me like a sponsorship deal for the main show, but when it comes to Ask TOH, they won't make the effort of their own accord to use it as much and use other brands like Bosch, Makita, etc on equal footing. In last weeks show Tommy used a Bosch jigsaw and Makita Impact when installing the loft ladder in Ask TOH.

Speaks volumes really!

.........speaks volumes on what?
rg
Phil
 
Locks14 said:
What I've noticed is that on the main show the Festool usage is very noticeable and looks like a lot of product placement.  However on the sister show "Ask This Old House" it is much less prevalent.

Seems to me like a sponsorship deal for the main show, but when it comes to Ask TOH, they won't make the effort of their own accord to use it as much and use other brands like Bosch, Makita, etc on equal footing. In last weeks show Tommy used a Bosch jigsaw and Makita Impact when installing the loft ladder in Ask TOH.

Speaks volumes really!

That's most likely because on Ask This Old House they are frequently flying around the country.  Much easier/cheaper to just use the homeowner's tools or buy new tools than to try to lug a bunch of Systainers through airport security.
 
Phil Beckley said:
Locks14 said:
What I've noticed is that on the main show the Festool usage is very noticeable and looks like a lot of product placement.  However on the sister show "Ask This Old House" it is much less prevalent.

Seems to me like a sponsorship deal for the main show, but when it comes to Ask TOH, they won't make the effort of their own accord to use it as much and use other brands like Bosch, Makita, etc on equal footing. In last weeks show Tommy used a Bosch jigsaw and Makita Impact when installing the loft ladder in Ask TOH.

Speaks volumes really!

.........speaks volumes on what?
rg
Phil

Speaks volumes that unless the wheels are being greased, they won't go out of their way to use Festool.
 
jaguar36 said:
Locks14 said:
What I've noticed is that on the main show the Festool usage is very noticeable and looks like a lot of product placement.  However on the sister show "Ask This Old House" it is much less prevalent.

Seems to me like a sponsorship deal for the main show, but when it comes to Ask TOH, they won't make the effort of their own accord to use it as much and use other brands like Bosch, Makita, etc on equal footing. In last weeks show Tommy used a Bosch jigsaw and Makita Impact when installing the loft ladder in Ask TOH.

Speaks volumes really!

That's most likely because on Ask This Old House they are frequently flying around the country.  Much easier/cheaper to just use the homeowner's tools or buy new tools than to try to lug a bunch of Systainers through airport security.

Not sure about that. I don't think they rely on home owner tools and I've seen Tommy use tools with "Silva" written on them during Ask TOH episodes.
 
Locks14 said:
Not sure about that. I don't think they rely on home owner tools and I've seen Tommy use tools with "Silva" written on them during Ask TOH episodes.

If they are doing a show in the Northeast they will usually bring the trailer and then they'll have their own tools (Festool or otherwise)  If they're flying to the other side of the country they will either use the homeowners tools or the contractor they are working with, or buy new tools.
 
I don't believe that Festool has any sort of sponsorships with THO.  Tommy actually purchases his tools to the best of my knowledge.

Peter
 
Being Dutch (what's in a name) I'd never heard about this show. Watched a few episodes on YouTube and I'm hooked now :) I really like how they are renovating an entire house in a season. Could have done with a bit less history and a bit more technical details. But all in all a very nice show. Even my girlfriend likes it :)

Are there any more (TV) Shows like this or similar I (we) can watch (on YouTube)?
 
This Old House has been on the air for 29 years - you have a lot of watching to do!
http://www.thisoldhouse.com/toh/tv/history

Many of the other shows we have here in the USA are fast paced, in and out in 2 or 3 days stuff. They use a lot of MDF and sometimes questionable building tactics. My favorite is Bath Crashers though, as they put some really trick things in sometimes.

We also have Home Time here which is a little more quality based and tends to follow a project along like TOH does.

I am of the opinion that Silva buys and brings his own tools to the site, but honestly why would I care if a show is sponsored or not? I do watch what tools they use, but dont take anything from that one way or the other---
 
dutchie said:
Being Dutch (what's in a name) I'd never heard about this show. Watched a few episodes on YouTube and I'm hooked now :) I really like how they are renovating an entire house in a season. Could have done with a bit less history and a bit more technical details. But all in all a very nice show. Even my girlfriend likes it :)

Are there any more (TV) Shows like this or similar I (we) can watch (on YouTube)?

This Old House is a truly fantastic show. And that's coming from a Brit who finds most US shows a bit too, well, "American".  Some of the history aspects of the show do drag, but some are interesting, especially on the more recent series.

As stated, the show has been going for decades and the general contractor, Tom silva has a knowledge base that leaves me in awe. Also the rest of the regular team are generally a likeable bunch of guys, which I'm sure in no small part contributes to the shows long running and continued success.

Though not involved as much these days, Norm Abram is a very talented carpenter and I assume when you ask about similar shows that you must have heard of his show "The New Yankee Workshop"?
 
You'll notice Tommy never refers to it as a "Domino". He always calls it a loose tenon mortising machine. I would think if there was a sponsorship, he'd call it a Domino. Granted I'm no expert, it's just something I noticed.
 
This Old House has changed drastically over the years since Bob Villa in terms of cost of projects. The old shows showed projects that were much more reachable by average people on budgets,this is not so now.
 
stidrvr said:
You'll notice Tommy never refers to it as a "Domino". He always calls it a loose tenon mortising machine. I would think if there was a sponsorship, he'd call it a Domino. Granted I'm no expert, it's just something I noticed.

I watched an episode where Norm was building up a tabletop with dominoes and calling them loose tenons. I chuckled at one point when he referred to a 'domino'. My wife asked me what was so funny. I don't know if they edit for those things or not but if they do that one got by. For all I know it might be a bit of a game to see what they can get away with. It used to be tape over any brand label but it looks more and more like product placement these days. Just a guess on my part but I think Tommy, in particular, is purposely pushing the old standards. If I were him, and I used my Festools all the time by choice, it would be frustrating to be forced to use a DeWalt on air because of sponsorship, knowing there are so many folks out there that are getting an inaccurate message. If the show is how to do things right then using the 'right' tools should also be part of the message. I suppose it is not a bad thing to demonstrate some jobs don't necessarily require a Festool tool to accomplish but when it is a truly unique tool like the Domino then they should be able to point that out, as long as it doesn't become an infomercial or testimonial.

I can certainly recall them waxing poetic about ZipWall sheathing without actually using the name, all the while that the name was in the middle of the shot as they talked. There are a significant number of products that I have researched after seeing them on TOH. I think that is a good part of what the show is about. Why not tools?
 
It could be as simple as not naming the tool since their is no sponsorship.  How many movies or TV shows have you seen where items have similar names/slogans to the original products, but are fictitious brands.
 
While I previously didn't think that Tommy was getting anything free or any special perks from Festool, my opinion has changed based on some of the recent episodes and based on some of the twitter posts lately.  I'm not familiar enough with FestoolUSA, but I'm guessing this post took place at the new Festool training place based on the number of Festool stuff floating around.

Also on a recent episode Tommy was using a Conturo that looked brand shiney new.  I can't imagine a general contractor would buy one of those for such an infrequent use if he was paying his own money for it.
 
jaguar36 said:
While I previously didn't think that Tommy was getting anything free or any special perks from Festool, my opinion has changed based on some of the recent episodes and based on some of the twitter posts lately.  I'm not familiar enough with FestoolUSA, but I'm guessing this post took place at the new Festool training place based on the number of Festool stuff floating around.

Also on a recent episode Tommy was using a Conturo that looked brand shiney new.  I can't imagine a general contractor would buy one of those for such an infrequent use if he was paying his own money for it.

My suspicion is that whilst Festool may not officially sponsor the show, there could be a very accommodating local dealer who is willing to allow TOH some "very long test drives" of the tools and in turn Festool USA make the stock available to that dealer.
 
jaguar36 said:
Also on a recent episode Tommy was using a Conturo that looked brand shiney new.  I can't imagine a general contractor would buy one of those for such an infrequent use if he was paying his own money for it.

I saw a shot of the Conturo edging a large surface, but they never said anything about it, or showed what the finished project was, at least not specifically. Not sure this would make the average person run out and buy a Conturo though

I would like to know what molder he uses. He runs wood and PVC through a small table top sized machine that looks like it has been beaten to death, but still puts out quality moldings on the other end. The top is all duct taped and loose! I am sure he has put miles of material though it. Anyone know the brand--?
 
copcarcollector said:
jaguar36 said:
Also on a recent episode Tommy was using a Conturo that looked brand shiney new.  I can't imagine a general contractor would buy one of those for such an infrequent use if he was paying his own money for it.

I saw a shot of the Conturo edging a large surface, but they never said anything about it, or showed what the finished project was, at least not specifically. Not sure this would make the average person run out and buy a Conturo though

I would like to know what molder he uses. He runs wood and PVC through a small table top sized machine that looks like it has been beaten to death, but still puts out quality moldings on the other end. The top is all duct taped and loose! I am sure he has put miles of material though it. Anyone know the brand--?

Tommy uses  Williams and Hussey molder. They are made in Milford, NH. WnH also make custom and standard molder knives.

By the way, I purchased my oldest of 3 WnH molders in the mid-1960s. It is not quite so duct taped and it still works as well as my newest bought in 2010. They have made custom knives for me, but generally I use my local service, LA Grinding.

Their URL is:  www.williamsnhussey.com  Please note they do not spell out the word "and" in that address.
 
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