Festool parent acquires Saw Stop

[promark747]

When I was at Woodcraft the other day, I saw that SawStop is now making a standalone router table.  Looked to be nicely built, though no better than a Jessem table -- and of course, it doesn't have a mechanism to stop the router bit if it detects flesh. I thought it was kind of an odd offering, though I heard they are also making one to add to connect to their existing table saws.

 

[peter halle]

When I first moved to the UK about 4 years ago I was invited to Festool /TTS to review some table saws and give a eval along with a few other people and some festool Engineers. They had a CS 70 there along with a Saw Stop saw and a few other manufacturers.

I guess they were looking for feed back. Im sure we werent the only ones they did this with.

Festool actually also had a focus group discussion about table saws at a JLCLive event around that timeframe.  Hopefully now that TTS owns Sawstop we will see a Festool tablesaw in the future.

Peter

 

[Sanderxpander]

mini brake would be totally unnecessary.  I have been using my TS55 for coming up on ten years without even a sniff of a chance to get hurt.  If someone did, they were doing something outside of it's operational intent and it would be Darwinism at work. 

The other day I saw a guy freehand cutting with it, making grooves in a left-over piece of pole hanging from a patio overhang. He was standing on a ladder. I stood watching for a couple of seconds trying to decide if he was trying to cut it off or prepping for a giant insurance claim. His colleague started watching me, puzzled and half annoyed at what I was doing. I decided the potential bloodbath was more than I could stomach and left.

 

[ben_r_]

When I was at Woodcraft the other day, I saw that SawStop is now making a standalone router table.  Looked to be nicely built, though no better than a Jessem table -- and of course, it doesn't have a mechanism to stop the router bit if it detects flesh. I thought it was kind of an odd offering, though I heard they are also making one to add to connect to their existing table saws.

All of their new accessories are just rebranded/repainted from other manufacturers. Its pretty sad actually. I expected more from them.

 

[Sparktrician]

Festool actually also had a focus group discussion about table saws at a JLCLive event around that timeframe.  Hopefully now that TTS owns Sawstop we will see a Festool tablesaw in the future.

Peter

And I would hope that Bosch will soon be able to sell the REAXX table saw in NA now that Steve Gass is (hopefully) out of the picture. 

 

[NL-mikkla]

Yesterday I was at a fair where there was a festool tool presentation.
The new tablesaw from festool was being displayed equipped with saw stop tech inside. The salerep confimred it comes out in 2020.
It looks like the precisio but it is not a pull saw, the saw height is upgraded to 80mm.
Not much more info since it was a prototype, it sounded like a brushless motor but they couldn’t confirme since it was a prototype and could possibly be changed before it comes out. I have some pictures, will try to upload later

My guess is that this machine is now ready for NA market

 

[rmwarren]

If I could get a pull saw w/ sawstop tech I'd spring for the price.

Been getting by with an old DeWalt and seriously considering an Erika as the pull saw looks ideal for a small shop but as I get older I become more attached to my appendages and want to stay that way.

[popcorn]
RMW

 

[NL-mikkla]

The promised pictures!

 

[Sparktrician]

I become more attached to my appendages and want to stay that way.

 

Richard, your comment reminds me of the knight in the Monty Python and the Holy Grail movie - "It's only a flesh wound!" 

[big grin]

 

[rmwarren]

I become more attached to my appendages and want to stay that way.

 

Richard, your comment reminds me of the knight in the Monty Python and the Holy Grail movie - "It's only a flesh wound!" 

[big grin]

[scratch chin] An absolute classic.

The boss often asks me "what'd you do this time?" when I come in with a digit wrapped in a paper towel and electrical tape.

"Sprung another leak" is the standard reply.

RMW

 

[jeffm13]

Sawstop patents start to expire in 2021. Although, apparently there are more than 100 patents active. So it might take a while before we'll see prices come down.

 

[Bob D.]

If I could get a pull saw w/ sawstop tech I'd spring for the price.

Been getting by with an old DeWalt and seriously considering an Erika as the pull saw looks ideal for a small shop but as I get older I become more attached to my appendages and want to stay that way.

[popcorn]
RMW

This is a new one on me, never heard the term before this thread, what is a 'pull saw', a RAS maybe ?

 

[Paul G]

This is a new one on me, never heard the term before this thread, what is a 'pull saw', a RAS maybe ?

Search for “mafell erika 85ec pull-push saw” and you will find plenty of info on it. Here’s a retailerhttps://www.timberwolftools.com/mafell-erika-85ec-pull-push-saw

 

[Bob D.]

OK, followed your link and that is something I was not aware existed.

Lots of advantages when working with larger workpieces with the blade being moved through the stationary piece.

I wonder could the RAS make a comeback if it had the SawStop flesh-detecting technology.

 

[Paul G]

A sawstop RAS would be interesting.

 

[Cheese]

A pull saw really is a just an upside down RAS except that it's 4X the cost.  [popcorn] [popcorn]

 

[ChuckM]

Anyone know the particular advantage(s) of this pull push saw over the table saw (used with a cross cut sled or mitre gauge), given that it is not cheaper than a cabinet saw?
http://www.tool-hunter.com/shopsmit...mith-2000-tablesaw-information-history-review

("...the saw began a slow march to its inevitable death.')

 

[Lincoln]

A pull saw really is a just an upside down RAS except that it's 4X the cost.  [popcorn] [popcorn]

Nah, more like a table saw with ras capabilities

 

[jeh]

Sawstop patents start to expire in 2021. Although, apparently there are more than 100 patents active. So it might take a while before we'll see prices come down.

No one should base purchasing decisions on the hopes of expiring patents and the lower pricing that might be seen.

 

[rmwarren]

A pull saw really is a just an upside down RAS except that it's 4X the cost.  [popcorn] [popcorn]

"A pull saw really is a just an upside down RAS except that it's 4X the cost"... & less likely to rip the material out of your hands?

Those things frighten me, my only experience with one ended with a "whammo!" & a chunk was taken out of the board I was carelessly cutting. Never recovered.

RMW