Festool Track Saw and parallel guide for cabinet construction: Video
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I might even have to look around and see if I have any long pants soon.
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Your video shown product is admirable as well stated. But WHY (?) go to all that expense for A-C plywood garage cabinets. Wouldn't it be more cost-effective, e.g profitable, to simply knock them out in the firm's home-base cabinet shop and deliver conventionally?
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I really like the mod you made to keep the guides from tipping down and duplicated the concept using 35mm x 50mm acrylic sheet left-overs. I used 5mm Phillips head machine screws 10mm long to screw them to the sliders much as you had done. Thanks for sharing the idea.
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Woodwreck. I like Ron and many others do onside cabs builds [poke]. That video I think was made in Ron's garage shop. So the ac was just as an example
Besides when he make cabinets he uses dx grade people love the knotty look. Ac is too good. Just kidding he makes awesome stuff like I do I just use more bead board !! I am the king !! Lol.
Besides when he make cabinets he uses dx grade people love the knotty look. Ac is too good. Just kidding he makes awesome stuff like I do I just use more bead board !! I am the king !! Lol.
crpaulk said:
Just a garage shop and a driveway and sunny weather. No slider, just a Grizzly cabinet saw.
Have you ever tried another method for attaching the guide to the cross cut rails? I keep thinking about a floating system that would let the guide sit right down on material of any thickness.
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fshanno said:
fshanno,
I came up with a floating alignment system that could easily be adapted to Ron's table. You just need 2 round pins, one on each side of the bench top, and a couple clips to draw the guide rail snug to the alignment pins.
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I have not used the stock MFT guide rail hardware since I came up with this system. The full thread with more photos is at: Tweaks on cutting with round dogs/MFT
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RMW said:
Wow! I don't know how I missed that other thread, but it's a great idea. Looking forward to seeing them for sale. I've also been looking for a way to "liberate" the guide rail from the MFT hardware, but I wouldn't have thought of that in a hundred years.
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John Stevens said:
John,
I did a proforma on making them to sell and dropped it due to the limited interest that was expressed. The complete "set" including 4 dogs, 4 guide pins, 2 rail guide brackets, tee nuts and knobs would have to sell for $75 to make sense to produce in small quantity. I would have to sell 20 - 25 sets to justify the time and expense of making them. I guess the value is there since the commonly available dogs sell for about $40/4 and the dogs have multiple uses.
Whilst toying with the design I also discovered that my MFT V-groove rails are also perfectly aligned with the holes in the top, which opens up other possibilities such as using a guide strip attached to the rail to align the sheet being cut. This extends the overall width of material that can be cut to nearly 44" long-ways on the MFT top.
This photo show some slotted plates I milled, the rail can be raised or lowered as needed. There is also another pin-type bracket shown that can be used in lieu of the dog/pin combo for the same purpose. They slide along the MFT rails to whatever angle needed and make cuts at other than 90 degrees.
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If there seems to be interest enough to sell 20 dog sets I can provide more details.
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I didn't know that that tool was available. Thanks now I have to get me one! The video was great really showed the value of the setup!
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Only because I'm sure you love a challenge as well as the added inspirational feeling of being able to provide the Festool community with another great user inspired product.
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Whatever makes my job easier; I just want one. LOL [big grin]
Thanks!
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Whatever makes my job easier; I just want one. LOL [big grin]
Thanks!
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I to will commit to buying one of these sets, I like the idea alot and would be happy to work with this type of setup also
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rookie08 said:
Oh that "inspirational feeling"...
Seriously though, thanks for the encouragement. More info:
The dogs are low profile, the head is 6mm high and 24mm diameter, total height w/head is 25mm (19mm under head). There is an 8mm (5/16") through hole and 12.7mm counter bore, sized for a slip fit for a 1/2" hardened steel pin. Material is 6061 "aircraft" aluminum. They look like this:
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The rail guide clip is 1/4" thick 6061 aluminum, the pin ends up offset from the rail by 20mm so that the blade score mark misses the holes in the MFT top. They use an M5 thumb screw and tee nut and are grooved to fit the FS rail tightly. They look like:
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I need about another week to finalize the design, mostly to make sure that when I hit "send" I don't end up with a pile of aluminum that is almost the right size, i.e. I am a chicken.
There is a 4+ week lead time to have them made, so they would be available to ship mid to late January. I rechecked the costs and I look okay at $75 + I guess about $5 for a USPS flat rate box so call it $80 including shipping in the US.
To avoid polluting this thread any further I will start a new thread shortly, look for something like "MFT dogs with FS cutting guides" or something similar. I will re-post the basics of this, and I would appreciate any feedback on the specific dimensions.
Again, thanks for the encouragement, this has been fermenting in my head for a while and I am looking forward to making it real.
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Sorry if you are going to make them 19mm then I will not be in.
At 20mm I'm in at 19.9mm if that is what it has to be then OK But any less and there will be too much slop.
My system is all 20mm. I have a couple of 19mm items that I have modified with tape and though they work they aren't as good to use.
Reducing from 20 to 19 mm wouldn't be too good but going the other way doesn't work for me.
At 20mm I'm in at 19.9mm if that is what it has to be then OK But any less and there will be too much slop.
My system is all 20mm. I have a couple of 19mm items that I have modified with tape and though they work they aren't as good to use.
Reducing from 20 to 19 mm wouldn't be too good but going the other way doesn't work for me.
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