Festool TS60 K ?

[ToolCrazy]

There's a new video that shows some of the upcoming TS60 K features, plus a few nifty things that the earlier videos don't show. The history of the Festo track saws and video of the new factory built to manufacture these are great too. It's in German, but the English sub-titles are very good:

The history of our plunge cut saws (Festool Stories Part 2)

Enjoy!

 

[GoingMyWay]

Here's the video from the previous post:

The full URL (youtube.com) and not the shortened URL (youtu.be) needs to be used in order for the video to load properly on the forum.

 

[ToolCrazy]

Thanks! Learn something every day  [tongue]

 

[cptcolo]

1500W brushless (vs 1200W brushed) so AT LEAST 25% more power. Brushless can be 10-15% more efficient so adding up it could have like 40% more power.
62mm depth (vs 50mm) so 25% more capacity
4.8kg (vs 4.3kg) so 12% heavier
6800 max rpm (vs 5800), 17% more
FSK rail compatibility
Anti-kickback like the TSC K
Improved depth adjustment(?)
~27% higher MSRP(?)

Seems like a pretty nice portable and powerful hybrid to me, when you can’t own/bring a kapex/multiple saws.

I have the corded TS55 and have long thought about getting the cordless version of the TS55. This thing looks awesome. If they make a cordless TS60, which I am sure they will... I am in for sure

 

[sirhc]

I wonder why they updated the TS 55 with a thinner blade only last year and launch this new TS 60 soon after. Is here any room for a TS 55 next to a TS 60? Any special field/points the TS 55 could be more suitable to use compared to the TS 60 other than cost?

 

[Crazyraceguy]

My only real question is "Available in the US?"

 

[Coen]

I wonder why they updated the TS 55 with a thinner blade only last year and launch this new TS 60 soon after. Is here any room for a TS 55 next to a TS 60? Any special field/points the TS 55 could be more suitable to use compared to the TS 60 other than cost?

Sure. Lower weight, smaller size, lower price, riving knife.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

I'm still on the fence about the TS. The one I have is the older corded model and I have thought about upgrading to the newer thinner bladed one, but stuck between corded and cordless. I'm not already in the battery platform, so analysis paralysis has set in.
I can probably sell my old one to the boss, for general shop use, but I have so many blades that it doesn't thrill me to have to start over there.
That's why I'm thinking a TS60 would be good. Keep the one I have for the sheet goods that I use it for now and the TS60 for heavier cuts that don't require the bigboy TS75. That TS75 only comes out about once a month, but it sure is handy, when I need it.

 

[squall_line]

I have a corded TS55 simply from the perspective of "a brushed motor with a mains connector has fewer points of failure and should still be serviceable in 20-30 years to pass down to a child or other progeny".

I bought an HK55 and HKC55 from Recon back in 2020 (completely missing the "all sales are final" warning) and still need to sell off the HK55; the HKC55 is so much more convenient for what I use it for (dimensional lumber and demo work), and I think I only ever powered up the HK55 to make sure it worked.

If I got a TS60, I would probably hold out for a TSC60 but keep my TS55 for the "corded and brushed" reasons above.  It's definitely helped ward off temptation to get the TSC55K...

 

[woodferret]

I wonder why they updated the TS 55 with a thinner blade only last year and launch this new TS 60 soon after. Is here any room for a TS 55 next to a TS 60? Any special field/points the TS 55 could be more suitable to use compared to the TS 60 other than cost?

Probably production reasons for the blades.  EOL stock is easier to model based on existing units and obselence rates.  They can do one hurrah push for the 2.2mm blades, warehouse them, and switch the tooling line for newer 168mm blade.

 

[mino]

I wonder why they updated the TS 55 with a thinner blade only last year and launch this new TS 60 soon after. Is here any room for a TS 55 next to a TS 60? Any special field/points the TS 55 could be more suitable to use compared to the TS 60 other than cost?

Probably production reasons for the blades.  EOL stock is easier to model based on existing units and obselence rates.  They can do one hurrah push for the 2.2mm blades, warehouse them, and switch the tooling line for newer 168mm blade.

There is definitely the room for a light&nimble TS55 to go along a more heavy-duty TS60.

I would be more concerned for the TS75. IMO the only thing really keeping it around is the lack of a 110V HK85 version which will likely have some reason - like the inability to fit a 20A@110V motor into the chassis.

 

[jafo09]

hi all, just fyi, i received a note from Festool indicating they won't be bringing it to the NorAm market. [crying]

Here's the exact wording:

Thank you for contacting Festool. The TS60 is not available for purchase in the North American Market. Festool is a German company with world-wide distribution, not all tools and accessories are available in every market. The TS60 is not available in this market and at this time Festool has not announced any future plans to bring this tool to market.

 

[j41385@hotmail.com]

hi all, just fyi, i received a note from Festool indicating they won't be bringing it to the NorAm market. [crying]

Here's the exact wording:

Thank you for contacting Festool. The TS60 is not available for purchase in the North American Market. Festool is a German company with world-wide distribution, not all tools and accessories are available in every market. The TS60 is not available in this market and at this time Festool has not announced any future plans to bring this tool to market.

Fine with me, but If they would only get the TS-75 to market things would sure be nice. Some of us don't want to have both and "Pull out the big boy once a month." Some of us would rather have one saw that does everything thick and thin. I get that it's sort of the idea behind the TS 60, but even it is not big enough, and I don't care about the electronics, I want a riving knife like the TS-75 has.

 

[woodbutcherbower]

hi all, just fyi, i received a note from Festool indicating they won't be bringing it to the NorAm market. [crying]

Here's the exact wording:

Thank you for contacting Festool. The TS60 is not available for purchase in the North American Market. Festool is a German company with world-wide distribution, not all tools and accessories are available in every market. The TS60 is not available in this market and at this time Festool has not announced any future plans to bring this tool to market.

Surely not - that would be insanity. The UK website currently only lists the 230v version, whereas all of the other tools are listed in both 230v and 110v - because 110v is mandatory on construction sites over here. The lack of a 110v version would not only eliminate a potentially vast number of NA sales, but would also make it a non-starter for the thousands of guys over here doing site work. It must be in the pipeline somewhere.

Mustn’t it?  [unsure]

 

[simnick]

I'm disappointed to hear they might not bring this to the NA market. It seemed to check all the boxes I might need in a saw (I don't want cordless, I normally work in my shop).

 

[Coen]

It's what you get when you persist in using something (110V) unseen in the other 95% of the world. And lots of universal 100-240V stuff could have been made slightly cheaper if it was only 230

So you use split-phase 110V on UK building sites. Has it saved any lives? And how many extra died because they used the wrong tool because the right tool wasn't available in 110V?

 

[petar73]

I would rather use cordless than 110v and transformer on site.

 

[squall_line]

"Festool has not announced any future plans to bring this tool to market" =/= (or !=, or ≠) "Festool has no plans to bring this tool to market."

Since they don't officially have a 110v version of this tool yet, there is no benefit to announcing plans to "some day" release one, especially for a company like Festool with such a small market share in North America.

 

[woodbutcherbower]

It's what you get when you persist in using something (110V) unseen in the other 95% of the world.

Maybe so - but 380 million people in the US and Canada isn’t exactly a tiny, minority marketplace. I really hope there will be a 110v version for our friends over the pond.

 

[Coen]

It's what you get when you persist in using something (110V) unseen in the other 95% of the world.

Maybe so - but 380 million people in the US and Canada isn’t exactly a tiny, minority marketplace. I really hope there will be a 110v version for our friends over the pond.

For a European company that is definitely a minority of the market.