Festool WCR 1000

Holzhacker said:
I thought that ad was a joke. I'll spend money on tools but not on that thing. The tub is very cool, the price too high. I could buy CT wagon/guts and make a work station for far less. Something I'm still considering doing. I think the addition of the WCR 1000 may be a step in Festool realizing that many of us use the CT as a mobile workstation.
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I agree with you. I have some Stahlwille and Hazet hand tools, which have been worth every penny and more to my mind (and hands), but this is truly [eek].

My only intent in posting the above link was because I didn't realize the potential of the CT 22 as a base for a mobile workstation until I saw the WCR 1000, and it immediately evoked the form factor of the Hazet product. I've seen the Assistent list for approx. 1200 USD, which is still staggering.

Sorry to have wound anyone up (and caused a veer off-thread); that wasn't my intent.
 
WarnerConstCo. said:
Some of you seem to have an issue with the word 'profit'.
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I've got no issue with companies making a healthy profit.  But there is nothing on that company's web site that even suggests why that item should merit that kind of price.  If Hazet is reknowned for exceptionally well-engineered or well-made products, I'm willing to pay more.  I don't see it there, to the contrary in fact.  The first time I was shown Festool, I thought that there was no way I'd ever spend that kind of money, but their marketing, my local dealer, and websites have convinced me of its merits.

Do you have some personal knowledge of what makes that product worth that kind of money ? If so, please share.  I'm always looking for new and inventive ways to spend my money ;).
 
Brice Burrell said:
Holzhacker said:
Shane, get that for us. We want it now, now, now. I'm stomping my feet like a little brat boy who can't have an ice cream cone because it is too close to dinner.
I would so buy that right away. That is a very nice, useful accessory. Turns the CT into an all out workstation, which it already is anyway.
Markus
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Shane, make note of another foot stopping brat, I want one these bad.
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+1
 
Does anybody have any questions about the WCR?  Have on sitting on a CT 36 here in front of me to check out.  [smile]
 
Shane,

I've not seen it in the flesh, only the 'official' photos, so a video explaining all the relevant points would be good if you've got time.

So does that mean you will be getting them over there?
 
I'll see what I can do regarding some video.  I'm not certain, but I believe that we will likely get the WCR here some time in the first half of 2011.  We currently only have one unit here as a sample for us to check out.
 
Does the WCR1000 make the boom arm redundant ? Or non-useable ? I can't tell if it is too high for the arm to clear.  Losing the swiveling ability of the boom arm would be hard for me.
 
NuggyBuggy said:
Does the WCR1000 make the boom arm redundant ? Or non-useable ? I can't tell if it is too high for the arm to clear.  Losing the swiveling ability of the boom arm would be hard for me.
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Great questions.

The WCR 1000 does work in conjunction with the CT 26/36 + boom arm.  It also works does not work with the CT 22/33 + boom arm (tested with and without a hose garage attached).  There is a plastic profile which barely will not clear the boom arm support rod.

At its lowest position it is about 20-1/2" (52cm) high and at its highest position it is 30" (67.5cm) high.  The boom arm swivels at 33" above the surface of the SysDock, so you will be fine even with it in its highest position.

Regarding whether it would be redundant, I think they serve two separate purposes. The boom arm is to keep your cables and hoses above and out of the way.  The WCR is designed to supplement storage and organization of tools and accessories on the CT.
 
Shane Holland said:
The WCR 1000 does work in conjunction with the CT 26/36 + boom arm.  It does not work with the CT 22/33 + boom arm.  There is a plastic profile which barely will not clear the boom arm support rod.
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That's too bad.  If true, that counts me out, unless the profile could be sanded or otherwise cut away to make it work.  I have a CT-33 and am perfectly happy with it right now.

Edit: I wonder whether the unit couldn't be made to work with the boom arm and CT-36/26 with just a riser on the boom arm or a longer boom arm tube ?
 
The WCR 1000 does work in conjunction with the CT 26/36 + boom arm.  It does not work with the CT 22/33 + boom arm.  There is a plastic profile which barely will not clear the boom arm support rod.
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Ok, so this just didn't sit well with me. I know our engineers and they are fanatical with details. To explain, we have an end user training class here today and I took the WCR into the training room and tried not to bother the class attendees while I tested this out. The CT 22 I test it on was wedged between two MFTs at the time. I just tried it again with another CT 33 and it worked perfectly, with and without the hose garage attached.  So, I have to retract my previous comment about it not working with the CT 22/33.

After hours, when our class attendees leave for the day, I'll make my way have to the training room and try it again.  I must have been making contact with something else mistakenly in my first attempt.  Sorry for the erroneous information.  Although the new results are good news.
 
Shane,

Do we have a price(usd) on this wonderful new item.

Or will this be one of those things that gets shot down by UL? afterall, those hooks look to be at about eye level?
 
Shane Holland said:
I don't have any price information at this point.  Someone could probably check the prices in Europe and provide a rough estimate.  Now that I'm working part time at the UL lab, I don't think UL will be an issue.  [tongue]
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It's listed on festool's UK website as GBP 314.90, which I'd guess translates into about $500 of your funny little dollars.

Cheers,
Rick
 
Just a quick follow up on why I thought it didn't work with the CT 22/33 + boom arm at first and later changed my position.  After some head scratching, I found that it has to do with the position of the boom arm support.  It must be attached to the side of the CT closest to the power cord (or the right side if you're standing behind it).  Because the WCR slides into the SysDock latches, it cause it to be off center which makes the boom arm support an obstruction if it's installed on the non-power-cable side of the CT 22/33.  I think for most users, this would not cause a problem although it may mean that you would have to move your boom arm to the other side of your CT.  Mystery solved.  [cool]
 
The WCR would be a great addition to a CT either in the shop or field. For me it would turn the CT into more of a workstation than it already is. I sure hope you are wrong about that pricing. At $500 it just isn't worth it for a convenience item. I could buy another power tool(s). I have some ~ 3' chrome rods left over from a job I've been thinking of bolting to my hose garage and then putting another hose garage at the top of the rods to make a WCR type set-up.
If the translated price is close to reality, I'm out of the market. I can put my own item together for far less and still buy a power tool. The very long lead times on new product availability has gotten really old at this point. If Festool has an existing product I'll buy it over another. As far as waiting many months for products that may become available, that has ceased to be part of the decision process for me. In short it will probably result in a lost sale for Festool. I can't be the only one tired of the long lead times.
 
Mac said:
It's listed on festool's UK website as GBP 314.90, which I'd guess translates into about $500 of your funny little dollars.
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It WON'T be $500 for you guys.

The list price in the UK is GBP314.90 as Rick stated, but that price includes VAT which you guys don't pay. Excluding tax it's listed at GBP268.

Additionally, this is (I'm guessing) classed as an 'accessory'. Items classed as 'accessories' can be, and usually are, discounted by dealers by up to 20%. That brings the realistic base cost of the WCR1000 down to GBP214.40.

That equates, at current rates, to about $340.

I really like the WCR1000, and I want one. I haven't got a CT26 yet, but it's just been bumped up the list by this. Unfortunately it's also bumped up the price... [eek]
 
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