Foam Insert for Shaper Origin tools/parts

Crazyraceguy

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I have had this empty Systainer since I got the tool itself, but I have never done the inlays.
Initially, I wasn't proficient enough or confident enough to mess with it. After working with it for a while, I got a sys-mini and cut into that one, for the smaller parts. That worked out well, so I decided to  get more into the bigger one and settle on a design.  Today was it's day.

Since I got the spare spindle, it really speeds things up. You can keep a different sized cutter in it and swap in seconds. I had the main one with 1/4" and the back-up with 1/8" on this project.
 

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I need to do the same.  wanted to get a spare spindle but they were sold out during sale .  Now they are back but no sale lol
also can't decide on the layout.  analysis paralisys
 
[member=71889]festal[/member]  that was exactly what was holding me back, that and the fear that I would screw-up the foam and not be able to replace it. Since then, I have gotten ahold of an extra of that too.
 
Did you do anything special to route it out? Pocket with up-spiral then do the edge with a down-spiral? Special foam bit? Tape the surface to keep the cut edge clean? I haven't machined much foam and certainly not with a router. Bandsaw a bevel into gymnastic flooring is probably the most adventurous; had to scrub the blade a bit to get the foam and carpet off after  [blink] but worked well
 
I just used 1/4" O-flute bit for the majority of it. It cuts this particular foam very well. As I understand it, this stuff is "carbon foam"? It is more dense than the Kaisan stuff. (I don't know how well that cuts.)
I used a regular up cut 1/8" in the corners where it was needed. (The flash drive pocket) I have a 1/8" O-flute on order, probably showing up tomorrow.... The little tiny 2mm ones in the square pack only have a cut length of 1/2" or so.
Then I used the big 8mm 3 flute in that really deep one for the tape. I got it to cut down to 50mm, which was just a hair from going through. I cut the rest with a razor knife. Even with the pocket going to the bottom of the Systainer, a full roll puts some pressure on the egg-crate foam on the lid.

The Shaper tape even sticks reasonably well, until you cut into it a few times. It's best to just pull it off at the point. The machine quits recognizing it as soon as it is damaged, even slightly.
 
Oh yeah, got the Trace on the pre-pre order. Got the early email while watching a class; 20 minutes later, 506 of 1,000 available had already been taken. Watched that clip to ensure it wasn't "works with Studio only" then bought it; by then, 538 had been taken. Bet that early reward was sold out within 40 minutes.
 
Found out about trace by tuning in to last Thursday’s live session. I started late and couldn’t figure out what they were talking about for a few minutes. Then I really focused in!

Almost two years ago I started a project that involved engraving text and would have been an easy task if a suitable single line font were available. It eventually required me to scan the text that needed to be reproduced and import that into my cad program and then draw each letter in such a way that the CNC mill would engrave appropriately.

It took many weeks but with “Trace” it would have only taken a couple hours.

 
PaulMarcel said:
Oh yeah, got the Trace on the pre-pre order. Got the early email while watching a class; 20 minutes later, 506 of 1,000 available had already been taken. Watched that clip to ensure it wasn't "works with Studio only" then bought it; by then, 538 had been taken. Bet that early reward was sold out within 40 minutes.

I knew the launch w/discount was pending but, like most things, figured I'd deal with it when I got to it. Inexplicably I woke in the really early AM, began dopamine scrolling and found out it was live at around #880 of the early discount tranch. Got in on that pricing, but I'd have paid full freight, it just fills a gap in the ecosystem/workflow.

FWIW, I'm fully invested aside from a couple of collets and a few of their router bits. I use Festool because I value the track saw (no room for table saw) and Domino is unmatched, plus the CT is awesome. Routers, sanders, etc. I have but I'm as likely to reach for the DeWalt cordless. Systainers have been emptied and put in storage immediately upon receipt, I don't have room for or the need for them.

In the case of Origin, there really is an ecosystem that that builds upon itself and is better with every addition. Studio included, although I think it's been neglected in the run up to Trace, feature development-wise.

As always, just my 2 pesos.  [2cents]

RMW

 
festal said:
Going to be a while until traces arrive.

Not too bad. My reward said October. Each reward category says a month later than the previous so they must be accounting for packing and shipping the frames (1,000 in October alone)
 
I did get my plate ehead of schedule so hopefully these will be arriving faster.  I only ordered around 8am and i'm in 36xx range
 
There were 199 left when I got in on it. I think it will be a great addition to the family, though I'm not sure how that got going here?
 
I got in on the Trace pre-order pretty early. I was sitting at the computer when the email arrived. I think I was in the first 200 or so.

[member=58857]Crazyraceguy[/member] I noticed you put your Workstation arms in the foam. I thought about that during my analysis paralysis phase then realized I've never removed them from my Workstation. I don't have a dedicated spot to store mine, it just sort of sits in various locations between uses. I may regret not making space for them if I find a spot to store it that has size constraints. Do you disassemble your Workstation when storing it?

 
[member=75283]4nthony[/member] I don't totally disassemble it, but I do take the arms and horizontal platform off, when storing it. As I assume you know, I have all of this stuff at my workplace, so it doesn't have a permanent home. There are threaded inserts for it, imbedded into the surface of the side table where my router plates and track saw station are located. When I get it out, it goes right there, quickly, very stable, and close to the CT26. When stored, it goes at the end of the miter saw stand. I leave the front face on it, but the other stuff upsets the balance enough to not be trusted without being bolted down.
It has a little shelf that I salvaged from a mock up of a job. It wasn't direct, so not the best pic, but you can see it off to the left of the rack of Shaper Systainers.

One thing I did do, when cutting those pockets was to cut the one side 2mm deeper. Then forgot to take a pic of it, even after specifically thinking of it.  [unsure]  The thing I never noticed, until fitting them into the holes was that they are tapered. It was messing with my head. I would put one in place and it seemed like it was tilted up? I thought there was foam crumbs under it, until I looked closer. The wider section was holding it up, so I sort of free-handed the pocket deeper to make it sit better.
 

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I occasionally take the Workstation arms off to clamp pieces vertically.  But most of the time, I fill their positions in the foam insert with the 8mm collet and router bits that I didn't own when I cut the foam.

I did alter the position of them from the Shaper-provided layout on ShaperHub, to nest them together tighter.  If I remember right, I was going to try to turn them 90 degrees, so they would be in a slot of varying depth, rather than an L shape, but I couldn't figure out how to cut as deep as it needed.
https://hub.shapertools.com/creators/5fe65b10f861b00010201dc9/shares/601709b52e63fd0015c2a2a4
 
[member=41832]WastedP[/member] I usually leave the arms on in vertical cutting situations. Then I can keep the support bar in place for the back of the Origin itself. I haven't cut anything on the workstation (vertically) where the support bar wouldn't fit. Bigger than that, I would probably use my big tape board and clamp it to the leg of my bench. The legs are flush with the top on one side for this exact reason. I have Domino slots and Match-fit dovetail slots to support and clamp too those legs.
I have a big piece of 3/4" white melamine that is a semi-permanent tape board. I use it flat on the assembly table and clamp things to one edge, sort of like the workstation. Then I turned it around and slid some more pieces into it (Dominos) to make the foam cutting fixture. Some spacer-rails hold it up at the right level for the foam.
I have an extra foam insert, so more analysis, for the next thing to go into one. That may turn into a home project? Since I am going to have some serious arrangement issues when I retire and have to move it all into a much smaller space. Plus, I'm running out of space at work, unless there is some remodeling of my area.
 
Crazyraceguy said:
[member=71889]festal[/member]  that was exactly what was holding me back, that and the fear that I would screw-up the foam and not be able to replace it. Since then, I have gotten ahold of an extra of that too.

another thing i'm still trying to figure out is if i want to do cutouts for just the bits or if i want to retain the boxes with labels they came in.  If they are just naked, its less wasted space in the foam but hard to figure out what is what later.  if i keep the boxes, then i can fit less but more orginized. decisions
 
festal said:
Crazyraceguy said:
[member=71889]festal[/member]  that was exactly what was holding me back, that and the fear that I would screw-up the foam and not be able to replace it. Since then, I have gotten ahold of an extra of that too.

another thing i'm still trying to figure out is if i want to do cutouts for just the bits or if i want to retain the boxes with labels they came in.  If they are just naked, its less wasted space in the foam but hard to figure out what is what later.  if i keep the boxes, then i can fit less but more orginized. decisions

I was a little in that mind too. I sort of split the difference. I keep all of the tubes from them in the black pouch that originally came with the workstation. All this time I have kept the loose parts/bits in those bags. Moving to the Systainer is really nice.
I do the same with my "regular" router bits. Most of them are in a Systainer, but the original sleeve, tube, or box is still in a drawer. This makes them easy to see, but I do still have the item number on the package.
I have yet to do anything with my 8mm shanks.
 
Crazyraceguy said:
festal said:
Crazyraceguy said:
[member=71889]festal[/member]  that was exactly what was holding me back, that and the fear that I would screw-up the foam and not be able to replace it. Since then, I have gotten ahold of an extra of that too.

another thing i'm still trying to figure out is if i want to do cutouts for just the bits or if i want to retain the boxes with labels they came in.  If they are just naked, its less wasted space in the foam but hard to figure out what is what later.  if i keep the boxes, then i can fit less but more orginized. decisions

I was a little in that mind too. I sort of split the difference. I keep all of the tubes from them in the black pouch that originally came with the workstation. All this time I have kept the loose parts/bits in those bags. Moving to the Systainer is really nice.
I do the same with my "regular" router bits. Most of them are in a Systainer, but the original sleeve, tube, or box is still in a drawer. This makes them easy to see, but I do still have the item number on the package.
I have yet to do anything with my 8mm shanks.

most router bits have model etched or lasered on the shaft but some dont.  also as i get older its hard to read them lol so thats why i thought of keeping them in their own original conatainers that have big labels
 
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