Freud 20mm Router Bit

JimD

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I'm working on a new workbench that is based loosely on Ron Paulk's ultimate work station design and has 160 holes on 4 inch centers in the 3/4 plywood top.  I looked at threads of others experience and decided to give the relatively inexpensive Freud bit a chance.  Before it arrived, I bored 1/2 holes with a spiral upcut bit I already had.  The same day the Freud bit arrived from Amazon.  I didn't like the 1/4 shaft and it did slip a little but the bit worked great!  Minimal chipout on the underside and low resistance to the plunge.  There is no bottom cutter but the side cutters angle downward a little.  I don't know how it will do without the 1/2 starter hole but I may try it without next usage. 

I used the special router base for my PC 690 that positions the holes using pegboard which I got from Home Depot (the pegboard, not the router base).  I was a bit disappointed with the drift in hole spacing in the pegboard but otherwise this also worked very well.  I guess I should have looked harder for 1/4 pegboard, the maker of the base indicates it is higher quality. 
 
When I made my workbench top (using the excellent Woodrave template sold by FOG member [member=34574]anthonyz[/member] and the CMT 20mm boring bit, which produced a lot of burning) I searched for 1/4" pegboard as well, but couldn't find any between HD and a couple of my local lumber places.  Someone must carry it, right?

JimD said:
I'm working on a new workbench that is based loosely on Ron Paulk's ultimate work station design and has 160 holes on 4 inch centers in the 3/4 plywood top.  I looked at threads of others experience and decided to give the relatively inexpensive Freud bit a chance.  Before it arrived, I bored 1/2 holes with a spiral upcut bit I already had.  The same day the Freud bit arrived from Amazon.  I didn't like the 1/4 shaft and it did slip a little but the bit worked great!  Minimal chipout on the underside and low resistance to the plunge.  There is no bottom cutter but the side cutters angle downward a little.  I don't know how it will do without the 1/2 starter hole but I may try it without next usage. 

I used the special router base for my PC 690 that positions the holes using pegboard which I got from Home Depot (the pegboard, not the router base).  I was a bit disappointed with the drift in hole spacing in the pegboard but otherwise this also worked very well.  I guess I should have looked harder for 1/4 pegboard, the maker of the base indicates it is higher quality.
 
JimD said:
I'm working on a new workbench that is based loosely on Ron Paulk's ultimate work station design and has 160 holes on 4 inch centers in the 3/4 plywood top.  I looked at threads of others experience and decided to give the relatively inexpensive Freud bit a chance.  Before it arrived, I bored 1/2 holes with a spiral upcut bit I already had.  The same day the Freud bit arrived from Amazon.  I didn't like the 1/4 shaft and it did slip a little but the bit worked great!  Minimal chipout on the underside and low resistance to the plunge.  There is no bottom cutter but the side cutters angle downward a little.  I don't know how it will do without the 1/2 starter hole but I may try it without next usage. 

I used the special router base for my PC 690 that positions the holes using pegboard which I got from Home Depot (the pegboard, not the router base).  I was a bit disappointed with the drift in hole spacing in the pegboard but otherwise this also worked very well.  I guess I should have looked harder for 1/4 pegboard, the maker of the base indicates it is higher quality.

I get all my Pegboard from Lowes, but have checked and the Local Home depot stuff is similar. I do recommend the 1/4" if they have it. 3/16" should work fine, do not use anything any thinner though. I would definitely find a pegboard which has double smooth sides. Some have a rough and a smooth side and I can see that causing issues.  I send a small piece of pegboard with the template to (1) protect the pegs and (2) to use as a sample when going out to your home store. The better the quality, the better the results. Thanks!
 
I also used the Woodrave router base and it worked well.  The pegboard I found was white and smooth on one side and rough on the other.  The white side was handy for marking where I wanted holes.  I trimmed about 1/2 off the edge so the holes would start off an even number of inches from the edge.  When I trimmed it, the holes were obviously inconsistent.  I always hit a hole but not the middle of each hole. 

I appreciated the fact that the router base was designed such that the handles on the router were in a convenient position and the router kept the steel pins in the router base from coming out.  Well thought out design.
 
Looking forward to what you come up with for your version of the paulk bench. I'm still on the fence about a build, great design but my space is limited. Good to see you over here and on the sawdustzone(BT3) site.
 
Does anyone have any specific brands of pegboard that are of good quality?

I see Masonite, and Moulding & Millwork around town here. Both are 1/4", masonite is unfinished, other was a white facing.

I'll probably check with the local cabinet supply shop and see if they have a better grade.
 
I'm about to start a Festool friendly countertop using the Freud bit (alternatives too expensive), the Woodhaven template and pegboard. Found good quality 1/4 inch pegboard at my nearby Ace Hardware store. The countertop is from leftover oak t&g flooring so hopefully the bit will be up to the task on a 1400.
 
WelshWood said:
I debated about what router bit to get for a while, and after recommendations I got the 20mm Festool Spiral Upcut Bit

More expensive than others, but in my eyes, i'm gonna be using it again for more tops, and after boring ~130 holes with the bit with the OF1400, I can assure you it has PLENTY of life left in it!  [thumbs up]
http://www.axminster.co.uk/festool-...UVttyqnKp0F5Elg2yiXiwJOQXPPO7PlCjhBoCXwHw_wcB

All the best

~WW

That looks a good cutter, but it is HSS.  Presumably not really the best for manufactured boards?

Interested in what you say, though, about how it still has life in it.

Cheers

 
scholar said:
WelshWood said:
I debated about what router bit to get for a while, and after recommendations I got the 20mm Festool Spiral Upcut Bit

More expensive than others, but in my eyes, i'm gonna be using it again for more tops, and after boring ~130 holes with the bit with the OF1400, I can assure you it has PLENTY of life left in it!  [thumbs up]
http://www.axminster.co.uk/festool-...UVttyqnKp0F5Elg2yiXiwJOQXPPO7PlCjhBoCXwHw_wcB

All the best

~WW

That looks a good cutter, but it is HSS.  Presumably not really the best for manufactured boards?

Interested in what you say, though, about how it still has life in it.

Cheers

I was a bit sceptical too, knowing that it was HSS, normally not good for particle boards,

However, using it on a mid speed with the OF1400, I experienced very little burning, and next to no wear on the bit, would definitely recommend it!

~WW
 
I used the Freud bit on my assembly table. It has well over 200 holes on a 49"x97" mdf top. I did the pre-drilling with a half inch up-cut spiral, same as some of you. I did however do it with a cnc made template instead of the pegboard method. I had it made with 30 mm holes, so it could be done with a bushing. It gave a bit of clearence so the dust could be drawn up into the dust collection hose. I don't yet have a Festool router, but the DeWalt plunge router with the dust port in the column did the job well.
I made the holes several weeks ago, but have been to busy to finish it. Since it is made from 1 1/8" mdf, only the surface clamping elements worked until I had time to relieve the back side. I finally got to it yesterday with a 45º chamfer bit. Now the regular through-the-table clamps work too.
The Freud bit did very well, even as deep as I was cutting. I saved the template and I'm sure the bit would do many more tops.
 
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