Michael Kellough
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Does anyone have both?
Are the bits interchangeable?
Are the bits interchangeable?
Freud Dowel Joiner and Festool Domino
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I have both, but haven't tried to interchange the bits. I can try tomorrow when I get back in the shop.
I have found that the Freud isn't really a good complement to the Domino, but when paired with a plate joiner, it is great. My only complaint about the dowel joiner is that the reference pins need to be adjusted a little more often than I would like. I built a 32mm template to check the alignment.
I have found that the Freud isn't really a good complement to the Domino, but when paired with a plate joiner, it is great. My only complaint about the dowel joiner is that the reference pins need to be adjusted a little more often than I would like. I built a 32mm template to check the alignment.
Michael Kellough
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I'm curious because there are fractional as well as metric bits for the Freud.
If we could use fractional bits we'd be able to make Dominos that exactly match
the radius of the cutter. Here in the US metric roundover bits are not available.
If we could use fractional bits we'd be able to make Dominos that exactly match
the radius of the cutter. Here in the US metric roundover bits are not available.
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'Seems pretty silly to me, but I guess there isn't a big enough market for manufacturers other than those like Festool...
Tom
Michael Kellough
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You're right Eiji, there are some Festool metric roundover bits although Festool
just misses the 10 mm radius with a 9.5 mm bit. I meant bullnose bits like these.
Didn't find a good Amana pic.
It's hard to tell from what I've seen if the cutter designs are close enough
and I have no idea if the shanks are threaded the same. But, if they're compatible
I'd like to have the option, and I'd be willing to go very slow and steady,
to make a 1/2" mortise when the project requires it.
just misses the 10 mm radius with a 9.5 mm bit. I meant bullnose bits like these.
Didn't find a good Amana pic.
It's hard to tell from what I've seen if the cutter designs are close enough
and I have no idea if the shanks are threaded the same. But, if they're compatible
I'd like to have the option, and I'd be willing to go very slow and steady,
to make a 1/2" mortise when the project requires it.
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I meant that Festool makes their bits (metric) available here but others tend not to, I assume, because they don't perceive a big enough market for them.
Tom
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Tom Bellemare said:
I think the issue here is that Festool doesn't offer a roundover bit with a radius that would be correct to make your own dominos.
Festool Roundover Bits
If the Domino bit is 10mm, wouldn't you want a 9.5 mm bullnose bit to finish the stock? At least if you want to make them a nice fit, and leave some room for glue that is...
By coincedence, that's just about exactly 3/8".....
And 5/16 = 7.95mm, so 8mm shouldn't be a problem either.
I wouldn't even bother rounding over the smaller sizes - just chamfer. ( unless it's for Hi-vis stuff like drawers - but you could allways use Festool Domino's for that or roundover the visual part by hand )
So perhaps there less of a problem than you assume.
Regards,
Job
By coincedence, that's just about exactly 3/8".....
And 5/16 = 7.95mm, so 8mm shouldn't be a problem either.
I wouldn't even bother rounding over the smaller sizes - just chamfer. ( unless it's for Hi-vis stuff like drawers - but you could allways use Festool Domino's for that or roundover the visual part by hand )
So perhaps there less of a problem than you assume.
Regards,
Job
Corwin,
Sorry, I realised the omission and edited my post after you read it. I just checked the Amana website, and there's even a 7/32 bit that would fit the 6mm just perfectly.
Point being: you''ll want a close enough fit - "same radius" fit wouldn't even be preferrable.
Where's the benefit in Festool making fractional cutters ? They sell Domino's for every cuttersize. And if you want to make your own dominostock: that's exactly where you are: on your own.
Strength- and sizewise, they've got it covered for the size of the machine. So no reason to add extra sizes "in between" only to accomodate users that want to make their own stock.
and from a technical point of view, there's little reason for cutter manufacturers to make fractional mortise cutters, as it's easy to find bullnose bits that will do the job just fine for the metric mortises.
For clarity: I don't own a Domino, but i have done more than a few rounded loose tenons - through-and-through visible joints as well.
Regards,
Job
Sorry, I realised the omission and edited my post after you read it. I just checked the Amana website, and there's even a 7/32 bit that would fit the 6mm just perfectly.
Point being: you''ll want a close enough fit - "same radius" fit wouldn't even be preferrable.
Where's the benefit in Festool making fractional cutters ? They sell Domino's for every cuttersize. And if you want to make your own dominostock: that's exactly where you are: on your own.
Strength- and sizewise, they've got it covered for the size of the machine. So no reason to add extra sizes "in between" only to accomodate users that want to make their own stock.
and from a technical point of view, there's little reason for cutter manufacturers to make fractional mortise cutters, as it's easy to find bullnose bits that will do the job just fine for the metric mortises.
For clarity: I don't own a Domino, but i have done more than a few rounded loose tenons - through-and-through visible joints as well.
Regards,
Job
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I think Michael was also trying to find a bullnose bit that would work so it was two passes, not four.
I would think that a 3/16" radius bullnose bit would work fine but maybe he wants a semi-interference fit.
Tom
I would think that a 3/16" radius bullnose bit would work fine but maybe he wants a semi-interference fit.
Tom
Perhaps.
All I'm saying is there's no real technical reason AFAIK looking at the requirements of a solid glued joint.
What I DO know is that I'd really like to try a Domino for some through-and-through wedged tenons.
I can't afford a Domino just now, but as soon as buisiness picks up and there's a little room I'd sure want one, and try just that.
Imagine a Domi drawer with a contrasting front, made with through dominos in the front face colour, wedged with the same colour as the sides.
Small wedges, just enough to show the colour, parting the round ends from the straight part.
That would be nice! And solid....
Regards.
Job
All I'm saying is there's no real technical reason AFAIK looking at the requirements of a solid glued joint.
What I DO know is that I'd really like to try a Domino for some through-and-through wedged tenons.
I can't afford a Domino just now, but as soon as buisiness picks up and there's a little room I'd sure want one, and try just that.
Imagine a Domi drawer with a contrasting front, made with through dominos in the front face colour, wedged with the same colour as the sides.
Small wedges, just enough to show the colour, parting the round ends from the straight part.
That would be nice! And solid....
Regards.
Job
Michael Kellough
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Oops, I forgot to mention that I'm interested in a matched radius for exposed tenon ends.
The nearly matched radii (?) would be fine for regular use but appearance is what I am after
so I want the bit rounding the tenon to have the same radius as the bit cutting the mortise.
A bullnose bit of the right radius would make quick work of it.
The nearly matched radii (?) would be fine for regular use but appearance is what I am after
so I want the bit rounding the tenon to have the same radius as the bit cutting the mortise.
A bullnose bit of the right radius would make quick work of it.
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