Great Day at Festool USA in the cabinet class

[honeydoman]

wow, what a great day.  we all spent the day making a bottom and upper cabinets.  learned alot of tips in using the festool system.  we were able to use the new mk 700 router and make a dado cut on the back of the cabinet to receive the 1/4 " back and boy was that a snap.  learned how to better use the parrell guides, and they really save alot of time cutting down repeat cuts in sheet goods.

we also used the lr32 hole drilling system, which I have been using for over 1 year.  but learned how to actually set it up more precise, thanks again trainers.  [eek]

we were using the metric system all day, and even though it drove me a little nuts, was getting more and more used to it.  The trainers were great and overall the class is fantastic and very enjoyable.  then at the end of the day we had barbecue ribs in the outdoor patio..

here are a few pics.  how would you like to have  a shop with all these great festools!

Festool has really gone out of their way to make sure that we had everything we needed and have been great host!  thanks!

 

[Peter Hamilton-Scott]

Love the photos. You lucky chaps were certainly spoiled on the day. I noticed that none of the photos showed any of you wearing dust masks which I think proves how good the dust extraction units are. Another reason why I should get one sometime if only to protect my wife's much loved garden plants.

Did anyone get to use the CMS router attachment or is that still off-base for you US folks?

 

[honeydoman]

yep, and actually at the end of the day the shop floor was hardly messey at all with guys cutting, routing, sanding etc.  and no dust in the air.  it was what the system is all about.  clean up took no time at all.  

yes you should go and get one and tell your wife that you did it for her as you always want to make her happy.  !!!!  lol
will post some more pics tonight or tomorrow when I get back home.

no we did not use the cms deal

 

[Roseland]

What will it take to get Festool UK to run days like this?

A

 

[jonny round boy]

What will it take to get Festool UK to run days like this?

A miracle  [sad]

 

[kev carpenter]

Looks very good bought a midi today and the suction amazing and not just for the size  [eek] good post

 

[greg mann]

Kreg,

Have you been able to get Brian to come out of his shell?

 

[AlexThePalex]

What will it take to get Festool UK to run days like this?

A miracle  [sad]

We Europeans have a problem. Festool has already conquered our continent.  [blink]

But here in the Netherlands they also have special work shops organised by Festool. But you have to pay and it ain't that cheap.

 

[Peterm]

But you have to pay and it ain't that cheap.

What sort of money are we talking? Just curious...

 

[Brice Burrell]

We Europeans have a problem. Festool has already conquered our continent.  [blink]

But here in the Netherlands they also have special work shops organised by Festool. But you have to pay and it ain't that cheap.

Alex, I believe the idea is to charge for the courses here once the format is established and all the details are worked out. Shane correct me if I'm wrong on this.

 

[peter halle]

Alex and Brice,

Discussions were held at the end of the first training class regarding the content, etc.  A question that was asked was "Would you pay for a class like this and if so how much?"  I believe that I am speaking correctly in saying that the majority of the classmates felt that specialized training classes would warrant a class fee.

These classes do have a cost to the providers whether it be employee costs, material costs, food cost, etc.  We were told that Festool does offer training in Europe by one of their companies that also is hired to provide training for competitor's tools - all at a charge.  Christian told us that they were looking at the possibility of charging for future classes so as to cover the expenses and maybe a little extra.  If you take into account that classes will be largely hands on by a small number of attendees, the cost would be higher than a larger class - but the attendees would enjoy the benefits of the increased interaction wit the trainers.

Hope that this helps although I realize it might not be the desired answer.

Peter

 

[Neill]

We Europeans have a problem. Festool has already conquered our continent.  [blink]

But here in the Netherlands they also have special work shops organised by Festool. But you have to pay and it ain't that cheap.
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Alex,

This is a bit off topic, but I recognize your picture in the profile .  You have been running around my house the last few days, getting into the munchies and scaring the hxxx out of the misses.  Thanks for the caraway seeds you have been leaving all over the place though.  They are delicious on my morning toast.

Neill

P. S. Sorry about the poison.

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

What Peter said.  [smile]

We are in the process of working out the details of the end-user training program.  Whether there will be a fee, along with other specifics, are still being decided.  I suspect there will be a modest fee to cover the costs of the class but that's just a guess.  Michael and the product training team will provide more details as they become available.  I would expect to see something to that respect after one or two more classes have been held.  Thanks.

 

[AlexThePalex]

But you have to pay and it ain't that cheap.

What sort of money are we talking? Just curious...

On the Dutch Festool site there are links to two organisations/companies that give classes. One charges 50 euros for a 3 hour class, like basic routing techniques, or basic Domino use, or basic miter saw use. All in all about 6 different classes or so. The second one charges 95 euro per class, of which some seem to be more or less the same basic classes as the first, over a 3 hour period, and others are the entire day from 9 to 5 with more extensive use of different tools building a project. This second company got a lot more classes, like 20 or so.

Now one single class isn't all that expensive, but considering you need at least a couple to get somewhere ..........

And I remember I have seen other classes a while ago that were more expensive then these, more like 150-200 euro for a day. 

Anyway, I can understand it cost something, that's perfectly normal. Teachers gotta be paid, tools gotta be bought, classrooms gotta be rented, wood needsa to be grown.

   

 

[AlexThePalex]

This is a bit off topic, but I recognize your picture in the profile .  You have been running around my house the last few days, getting into the munchies and scaring the hxxx out of the misses.  Thanks for the caraway seeds you have been leaving all over the place though.  They are delicious on my morning toast.

Neill

P. S. Sorry about the poison.

;D Not just the last few days. But only recently the family has grown so big I feared you might start to notice. Your misses should relax. We're actually quit nice. If your misses should let me, I can cook you a real nice dinner. Just beware not to step on my tail.  That poison though, that's not nice. You already cost me Rosie, Jason and Bob. The fact that I still have 73 other kids doesn't change anything. One day you'll have something to answer to. :-\

 

[Neill]

This is a bit off topic, but I recognize your picture in the profile .  You have been running around my house the last few days, getting into the munchies and scaring the hxxx out of the misses.  Thanks for the caraway seeds you have been leaving all over the place though.  They are delicious on my morning toast.

Neill

P. S. Sorry about the poison.

;D Not just the last few days. But only recently the family has grown so big I feared you might start to notice. Your misses should relax. We're actually quit nice. If your misses should let me, I can cook you a real nice dinner. Just beware not to step on my tail.  That poison though, that's not nice. You already cost me Rosie, Jason and Bob. The fact that I still have 73 other kids doesn't change anything. One day you'll have something to answer to. :-\

Alex,

Good show!    [thumbs up] [not worthy]

Neill

 

[honeydoman]

in the middle of nowhere in west virginia at a truck stop getting a cup of coffee.  don't ever try and sleep in a van when it is 32 degrees outside because it will become that inside the van also.  to to to cold.

the last day of class was fantastic.. learned a lot of tricks and just how to use the tools that festool makes better.  and saw some new products that will be introduced next year and boy are they fantastic.  save up your money!  will post some more pics when I get home in several hours.  it was a 642 mile trip  up to festool and 642 back.  but it was well worth it.

the employees from top to bottom were are very very helpful and just a fun bunch of people to chat with and learn from.  made our stay excellant. 

 

[honeydoman]

here is the picture of the class member minus 1 and 2 of the trainers.  the next picture is the upper, frameless cab and the lower face frame cabinet we made using the dominio to join the face frame together and to the cabinet.

then we used the raz grinder to practice scribing. what an awesome tool for scribing!  no dust it sucks it all up!

then we used the mk700 to make a dado grove in the back of the cabinet to receive the back.  what a easy way to do it.  it really made this process faster,  easier and smarter!  so besides triming edge banding, perfectly this tool has so many uses and stays on the board, because of the design!.  I would highly recommend this tool to be put to use in your shop and on jobsites well worth the small investment which will save you time and do an excellant job.  I am picking one up early next week.

 

[gkeas]

Are these regional training classes, or is it at the headquarters?  I'd be interested in knowing if there is one in Colorado, sometime.

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

The RAS is the most versitle Festool I own, I love that little guy.  Also frees me from needing a big ol' belt sander.  I think my bosch might be getting lonely sitting on the shelf all covered in dust.