has any body put the domino with the flaps on the lr 32 guide plate

[Alan m]

i was reading through jerry works work on mountiong the domino on the lr 32 plate . he is using a domino with  the locating pins but the new model has flaps instead. i was wondering if any body new of a way to attach the new domino to the plate.

 

[Kevin D.]

Not YET!  I as well have the tab style, and quickly realized that it is not condusive to Jerry's modification.  I have been thinking of alternatives to do this though.  I'm leaning towards actually affixing it to the other side of the rail via some platform that is still all the while affixed to the 32mm sled.  The idea being that I could arrange it so that that the face of the Domino would rest up against the material itself, thus not interfering with the depth adjustment indicators being off.  I also think that a design may be achieved to also lend itself to being used flat (horizontal, not standing vertically) in this manner.

But really, it is Festool who should create some kind of adaptable sled for the the 32mm rails and not us. [huh]

 

[Alan m]

what i was thinking was some sort of plate that would attatch to the front of the domino and by bolted or slot into the guide plate. but the problem with system is that as you said you lose plunge depth and knock off the readings. your sugestion of mounting the domino on the other side of the rail has potentian.
i was just thinking that if you mounted the front ange fence to the guide plate and let the main body of the domino overhang you could use  it to do the edge of a panel as well as the face of it.

 

[Corwin]

I think you guys are on the right track here.  Despite which type (pin or tab) Domino you have, using it on the back side of the rail such that it sits directly on top of your material certainly makes more sense than mounting it on top of the LR32 plate.  It may be easiest to simply bolt a plate onto the LR32 plate that will provide a reference edge to butt the side of the Domino up against -- kind of an extension of the LR32 plate that extends beyond the back side of the guide rail.  That way, you would hold the Domino's face tight against the guide rail and its side tight against the extension plate.

 

[mastercabman]

Maybe a dumb question,but what is the point of mounting the domino on the lr 32 plate?

 

[Alan m]

the reason is to allow acurate hole spacing without having to layout each hole.

 

[mastercabman]

the reason is to allow acurate hole spacing without having to layout each hole.

I get that!  But the domino does not drill holes.It cuts mortise.So what do you build with that set up?

 

[Brice Burrell]

the reason is to allow acurate hole spacing without having to layout each hole.

I get that!   But the domino does not drill holes.It cuts mortise.So what do you build with that set up?

I toyed with this when the Domino first came out but gave up before hitting pay dirt. I see the potential. 

Master, off the top of my head, I think this would be great for aligning stretchers for 32mm cabinets. 

 

[Brice Burrell]

I think you guys are on the right track here.  Despite which type (pin or tab) Domino you have, using it on the back side of the rail such that it sits directly on top of your material certainly makes more sense than mounting it on top of the LR32 plate.  It may be easiest to simply bolt a plate onto the LR32 plate that will provide a reference edge to butt the side of the Domino up against -- kind of an extension of the LR32 plate that extends beyond the back side of the guide rail.  That way, you would hold the Domino's face tight against the guide rail and its side tight against the extension plate.

Yes, this idea has potential.  I can see a bracket off the back of the LR32 plate with holes to attach to the holes for Domino's support bracket in the base.  And add to that another 90 degree bracket to orient the Domino at a right angle to the rail. 

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[harry_]

If I am understanding this thread, it would seem that one would want some sort of "L" bracket to connect the domino to the lr32 plate. This way the domino could be off of the plate so that you don't "lose depth" in relationship to your plunge settings.

Am I understanding this thread?

I would think that 32mm (based) spacing could be useful for a lot of things where even spacing of a mortise hole is desirable.

 

[harry_]

Brice,

I was actually thinking off the other side, but I like your idea more! [thumbs up] [not worthy]

 

[Corwin]

Nicely illustrated, Brice!  I like what you've done.  Now, maybe Ron wants to produce a bracket like this.  Oh, Ron!

 

[Brice Burrell]

Brice,

I was actually thinking off the other side, but I like your idea more! [thumbs up] [not worthy]

No, it wasn't my idea but I don't mind taking credit. [big grin]

Nicely illustrated, Brice!  I like what you've done.  Now, maybe Ron wants to produce a bracket like this.  Oh, Ron!

Corwin, that's what I was thinking.

 

[RONWEN]

HELLO... Did I feel my ears burning???

Yeah, that looks like something that I could make a few of.  Brice is getting awfully crafty with that Sketch-up tool!  [smile]  I have both styles of Domino (pin & paddle) but I don't have an LR32 set-up -- this could be a good excuse that I been looking for to get one.  I'll have to play with the real life example to get a proven design.  I'll be happy to, film at 11:00...  [tongue]

 

[RONWEN]

I find two (2) different hole drilling sets listed for either the 1010 or 1400 routers -- what are the differences between the two?  Are the guide plates actually different mounting holes etc.?

 

[Brice Burrell]

I find two (2) different hole drilling sets listed for either the 1010 or 1400 routers -- what are the differences between the two?  Are the guide plates actually different mounting holes etc.?

Ron, I pretty sure they are both the same (I tried to find them at Festool USA and couldn't wit ha quick search) I believe they have the same part number.

The 1010 mounts with two large knobs on the top of the base and the 1400 mounts with two screws in the bottom of its base.

 

[Wood_Junkie]

I think there was an "old" version, that only accomodated the OF1010.  You had to do some drilling for the OF1400.  I came across that thread a while back searching for info on the LR32 system.

The newer model has the OF1400 mounting holes already there.

I'm hoping and assuming you're doing research to formulate a design. 
If I might toss this out there:  Of primary importance would be some registration marks for the centerline of the Domino slot.  In both directions Brice mocked up in Sketchup.  Parallel to the rail; and perpendicular to the rail using some sort of extension.

Ideally, this jig would put the center point of the slot in the same location, using either Domino orientation.  Easier to figure out offset of the rail, etc.

 

[RONWEN]

Thanks.  I don't take it as "old" & "new" versions -- Bob Marino has both models listed on his site -- http://www.bobmarinosbesttools.com/subcategory.html?sid=971357761ad42a924fdc27c5912872cd&scat=16 -- Ahh Haa, I do see now that they are the same P/N ref. so they must be one & the same item.

And yes, I'm collecting some information with intent to design & build something.  I can see the advantage of hanging it off the back side as Brice shows but there is also advantage to using the front side where the Domino bracket can be precisely referenced off of the Festool router center hole using their furnished plug (in both parallel and perpendicular orientations).
Like I mentioned earlier I don't have one but this is typically all the more incentive that I ever need to buy another festool...  [big grin]

 

[Brice Burrell]

Ron, if we're all on the same page, we want the Domino's centerline in line with the LR32 holes so you'd be able to use the LR32 end stops to orient mortises on exactly 32 or 16 mm from the edge of the piece (with the Domino off the back of the rail in both parallel and perpendicular orientations).

 

[RONWEN]

Ron, if we're all on the same page, we want the Domino's centerline in line with the LR32 holes so you'd be able to use the LR32 end stops to orient mortises on exactly 32 or 16 mm from the edge of the piece (with the Domino off the back of the rail in both parallel and perpendicular orientations).

Without having actually seen one of these systems yet, wouldn't it be good to align the Domino cutter axis with the same center line that the router spindles get held on?  As you say, with the ability to have the Domino tenon orientation parallel or perpendicular to the rail.  

BRICE, After I've acquired an LR32 & played with it a bit I'll give you a call so we can discuss your thoughts on it -- please PM me your phone # for that conversation.  It just occurred to me that your number is probably on your website, Thanks.