Home made Sysports

Hi,

    How about making it the same width and length as a 1080 with back to back sysport drawers.  It would be a little longer than the width of two systainer drawers. But a couple regular drawers could be incorperated for table accessories.  Works with that stacking idea too.

Seth
 
Brice, That looks real sweet. Looks like a must have , must build project.  It looks good too but it's the "extension" part to the MFT that is most appealing.
 
ericbuggeln said:
I just picked up a cube van that I am building stationary sysports for.  Nothing original, just copying all of the wonderful designs here and fitting it to stationary cabinetry.  I will post pics during and after asap. 
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I would agree with the paint... and if anyone is in business for themselves, remember Homely and Desperate, Lowly etc. are you competition when things are quite. There's always someone who had a better product.

I would like to see what you do with your van, as I'm thinking along the same lines of redoing part of my tailer w/ a stationary sysport system.
 
Brice,

  Those leveling casters look very useful. Do you have any idea of what price range they are in?  To get a price on the website you  have to submit for a quote.

Seth
 
I have never heard of any others.  Flood owns that niche of the market.  I also stock it buy the gallon, worth every penny.  I don't go to paint forums, but I would probably know about it if there were.  I have heard from reps that the paint pro show that I go to in Hartford every year is one of if not the best in the country, we have to be good at something.  About five years ago Flood bought out a dying stain company and now factory mixes their other product Emulsa Bond Primer with a deck and siding stain which is more expensive then Benjamin Moore, but is the best product out there, especially for decks that have already been finished before.
I am hopefully going to be building stationary sysports for van soon and will be working the camera overtime.  I have yet to see to much out there of guys work trucks/vans set up.  My cube van is about 8x14 so I have lots of options.
 
semenza said:
Brice,

   Those leveling casters look very useful. Do you have any idea of what price range they are in?  To get a price on the website you  have to submit for a quote.

Seth
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Seth I don't know what they cost, do a internet search for leveling casters, I'm sure you'll get a few sites with prices.
 
Hey Brice, THANKS for that link on leveling casters!  Just what I couldn't seem to find on my own.  Terrific!

Corwin
 
Dan Clermont said:
I am also thinking about a roll around cart with my MFT on top at an optimal height for my 6'2" frame.  I don't know what the optimal height would be and can't complain about the current height of the MFT

Dan Clermont
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Old Cabinetmakers rule of "thumb" (no pun):  To determine the correct height of your own personal bench, stand erect with your arms down straight by your side, as if you are "at attention".  Without moving your hands, stick your thumbs out straight and they should sit on top of your workbench.
 
butzla said:
Old Cabinetmakers rule of "thumb" (no pun):  To determine the correct height of your own personal bench, stand erect with your arms down straight by your side, as if you are "at attention".  Without moving your hands, stick your thumbs out straight and they should sit on top of your workbench.
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Thanks for the rule of thumb.  The timing is perfect for me.

This week, I am competing construction of a woodworking bench that I have been building on and off for about a year.  I was not sure about the height and was consideringinserting shims between the cabinet and the bench. 

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I took you test as shown in the photo above and the current height is bang on.

 
Frank,

"Nice shirt"!!!  ;)

Looks like you incorporated a lot of nice features into you new bench.  I certainly looks very functional on both the horizontal & vertical surfaces as a great clamping surface.  Plus lot's of storage.

jim
 
Frank Pellow said:
butzla said:
Old Cabinetmakers rule of "thumb" (no pun):  To determine the correct height of your own personal bench, stand erect with your arms down straight by your side, as if you are "at attention".  Without moving your hands, stick your thumbs out straight and they should sit on top of your workbench.
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Thanks for the rule of thumb.  The timing is perfect for me.

This week, I am competing construction of a woodworking bench that I have been building on and off for about a year.  I was not sure about the height and was consideringinserting shims between the cabinet and the bench. 

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I took you test as shown in the photo above and the current height is bang on.
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Frank,  Nice looking digs!  Bench looks great too.  I read the rule of thumb in Tage Frid's book on workbenches.  It seems lower than in should be but when you think about it,  it takes a lot of pressure off the shoulder's than if you were working on a higher bench.

I'm curious though.  I'm new to the Festool line, I have only the TS75 and CT33 but want to add a lot more.  Ok, all of them!  Do you have an MFT?  I was reading Jerryworks guide to the MFT and he says that after using the MFTs, he's retiring his big cabinetmakers benches.  Obviously, you still feel the need for one /  or you don't own an MFT.    I've been a woodworker for many years and am embarrassed to say, I have only a makeshift bench.  I've had the requisite vises for over 8 years but haven't had the time to make a cabinetmakers bench.  Now with an MFT (or 3!) purchase(s) on the horizon,  I'm wondering if I ever need build one?  I would think the need to clamp work pieces vertically can't be accomplished on an MFT. 

Just curious how you feel (and any others too) on the subject.  Thanks for sharing the picture!
 
butzla said:
Frank,  Nice looking digs!  Bench looks great too.  I read the rule of thumb in Tage Frid's book on workbenches.  It seems lower than in should be but when you think about it,  it takes a lot of pressure off the shoulder's than if you were working on a higher bench.

I'm curious though.  I'm new to the Festool line, I have only the TS75 and CT33 but want to add a lot more.  Ok, all of them!  Do you have an MFT?  I was reading Jerryworks guide to the MFT and he says that after using the MFTs, he's retiring his big cabinetmakers benches.  Obviously, you still feel the need for one /  or you don't own an MFT.    I've been a woodworker for many years and am embarrassed to say, I have only a makeshift bench.  I've had the requisite vises for over 8 years but haven't had the time to make a cabinetmakers bench.  Now with an MFT (or 3!) purchase(s) on the horizon,  I'm wondering if I ever need build one?  I would think the need to clamp work pieces vertically can't be accomplished on an MFT. 

Just curious how you feel (and any others too) on the subject.  Thanks for sharing the picture!
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I have two MFTs, a 1080 and a 800, and use them a lot.  I do a lot of offsite work and the MFT 800 goes with me on most jobs.

I made the workbench for a few reasons:

(1) Making a bench from scratch  is sort of a right of passage for a woodworker

(2) My neighbour gave me a bunch of maple and this was a good use for it

(3) I want to do more hand tool work an the weight of this bench is better than the MFT for tasks like hand planing.

(4) I want a set of vertical dog holes for some work

(5) I have a light vise that I made for use with my MFT but I wanted something more so built two large vises into the table (and I might add a leg vise in the future)

(6) The project was fun

There are probably more reasons that I can't think of right now.
 
Nice bench, Frank!!

I think the key reason to have a traditional woodworking bench or some variation thereof is for use of handplanes, scrapers and carving tools.  The weight and resistance to racking, especially under the cyclical loading that handplaning causes are not present in an MFT.  For these reasons, although I have 3 MFTs, I am keeping a maple bench as well.  This traditional bench also works well with my Zyliss vice set (Switzerland) which quickly mounts to any edge of the bench top.  The Zyliss vice is very handy and versatile for quickly securing a wide range of workpieces.

I note this thread is entitled Home made Sysports.  Oh, well ... .

Dave R.
 
Dave,  can you post some more info on those swiss clamps you have?  Frank talked me into not abandoning plans to make a cab. workbench.  I have plans & vises for Veritas "http://www.leevalley.com/wood/page.aspx?c=2&p=31146&cat=1,41637Traditional Workbench"  but was thinking maybe I could modify bench with MFT holes or a T-channel track, in addition to square holes for dogs.  THen it occured that maybe a bench along the lines of the "Veritas Workbench" (item A same web page) might be better. 

I still want to get an MFT for sawing and routing but thought I could use cab. bench for sanding, domino joining etc.  The round holes would be nice for hold downs.

Sorry I didn't mean to get off topic either
 
Dave Ronyak said:
Nice bench, Frank!!

I think the key reason to have a traditional woodworking bench or some variation thereof is for use of handplanes, scrapers and carving tools.  The weight and resistance to racking, especially under the cyclical loading that handplaning causes are not present in an MFT.  For these reasons, although I have 3 MFTs, I am keeping a maple bench as well.  This traditional bench also works well with my Zyliss vice set (Switzerland) which quickly mounts to any edge of the bench top.  The Zyliss vice is very handy and versatile for quickly securing a wide range of workpieces.

I note this thread is entitled Home made Sysports.  Oh, well ... .

Dave R.
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Thanks Dave.  I started a seperate thread about my bench at:http://festoolownersgroup.com/index.php?topic=2720.0
 
butzla said:
Dave,  can you post some more info on those swiss clamps you have? 

Sorry I didn't mean to get off topic either
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I'm not certain the product I have is still being made.  I bought my Zyliss vice set >20 years ago at one of the big traveling  woodworking shows.  Here's a link to a vice set like mine that is being offered on Craig's List. http://rochester.craigslist.org/tls/595747121.html and the description within that ad:

Zyliss Swiss made cast aluminum vice with 4 inch wide jaws and 6 1/2 inch jaw spread. The Vice comes packaged as a kit complete with two bench clamps, end stops, two turning centers, soft jaws and an instruction leaflet. Larger work pieces can be held with the moveable end stops. 


 
Sorry, but I don't know how to copy and insert the image from that posting on Craig's List.  I need Matthew's remedial class for internet dummies.

Here's another link that describes in text and photos some of the versatility of the Zyliss vice.http://www.homeshow.co.nz/z-Vise Description.htm
 

Dave R.

 
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