How many systainers is to many for the Systainer cart?

dinkjs

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I have the Systainer cart part #492388.  And right now all I have is 3 systainers and 1 sortainer on it.  I know right now its not a problem but when should I think about getting another cart?  I am not interested in building a shelving unit to hold systainers because we are going to be moving in the next year and I dont want to put the time or money to build it.  Plus I like the mobility of the cart.  I dont want to invest in the Systainer Port.
 
dinkjs,  I just purchased the Sys-Port and even though I originally thought it was too expensive, I'm about to purchase another.  I love the ability to just pull out a drawer to get to my tools and supplies without stacking and re stacking that I endured for a few years.  The Sys-Port is sturdy, easy to roll around the shop and for the money is quite well built.
 
if you can still role it around when it is nearly touching the ceiling your still ok. it depends whats in them and how often you need to breack down the stack. iv one of those carts and only really use it in the shop to store the sys when not used . iv often had 8-10 sys on there. but the sys you want is always near the bottom
 
If I'm not mistaken, the load rating is about 150 lbs. I currently have about 7 systainers on mine and it's shoulder height. They are built very robust. Load it up!
 
If you cant reach the systainer on the top without standing on top of another systainer, you need another cart  [laughing]
 
I've stood on my and rolled around for fun.  Did some twisting "exercises".  I weigh about 215.
The good design has all the weight resting directly on the wheels.  Because the Systainers have little feet, there is basically zero weight pressing on the middle of the platform.

The number depends on what sizes... i.e. five Sys1's is very different from five Sys 5's!
But honestly, the weight aspect won't be the lynchpin of this question.  Center of gravity and ceiling height will be the determining factors.

I have three of these Systainer caster carts.  Love 'em!

 
Wood_Junkie said:
I've stood on my and rolled around for fun.  Did some twisting "exercises".  I weigh about 215.
The good design has all the weight resting directly on the wheels.  Because the Systainers have little feet, there is basically zero weight pressing on the middle of the platform.

The number depends on what sizes... i.e. five Sys1's is very different from five Sys 5's!
But honestly, the weight aspect won't be the lynchpin of this question.  Center of gravity and ceiling height will be the determining factors.

I have three of these Systainer caster carts.   Love 'em!

Me too ... I need more as I've got three reaching over 6 feet with further systainers lying about ... and with a couple of big systainers still to pick up (Domino XL and associated domino stock).

I'd like a rolling stand for the MFT/3 when it's on it's side.
 
With six or eight heavier systainers on the cart it starts to strain and squeak a bit. You could put 50 empty ones on it, though.
 
morts10n said:
Anybody have one that's the same color as the systainers ,like mine, and not black

We only get black downunder ...
 
I use my cart all the time, mainly for tasks that don't use systainers. When I'm installing kitchens I use the cart to roll in my tools but then take everything off and now its my dolly to move the cabinets around the kitchen.  I've used it to move appliances around and all sorts of material.  The cart rolls so smooth and makes moving things around much easier.

Dave
 
morts10n said:
Anybody have one that's the same color as the systainers ,like mine, and not black

I have two of the light grey and a black Festool one (all via ToolNut!).  There is no difference in quality or components.  Just the plastic color and the rubber loop color.
Sadly, ToolNut just got out of the Tanos dealer game, but there's still two US sources:

Tanos's caster cart:
FYI, Lee Valley happens to have free shipping right now, until 3/26/2012:
http://www.leevalley.com/en/wood/page.aspx?p=64655&cat=1,43326,64664

Japan Woodworker:
http://www.mysystainer.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=200%2D703

 
Kev,  you just had a really great idea.  if I may expound on it?  - a "mobility kit" for the MFT!
In fact, it is such a good idea, that I can't afford to wait around and see if such a thing could ever be offered. (doubt it)

the rails on the MFT are designed with ACCESSORIES in mind,  -so what might make a good victim to cannibalize?  caster attachments + a flip down deck attached to the MFT underside,  and you have a handy dandy HAND TRUCK!  or 4 clip-on-casters,  and you have a fairly large rolling cart.

I wonder how 2 SYS Maxi's might fit within the edge extrusions of an inverted MFT  (make that an "MFC"  [MF-Cart]  once you turn it upside-down ;D

it certainly takes the "multi-function" concept to a new level, doesn't it!

 
stairman said:
Kev,  you just had a really great idea.  if I may expound on it?   - a "mobility kit" for the MFT!
In fact, it is such a good idea, that I can't afford to wait around and see if such a thing could ever be offered. (doubt it)

the rails on the MFT are designed with ACCESSORIES in mind,  -so what might make a good victim to cannibalize?   caster attachments + a flip down deck attached to the MFT underside,  and you have a handy dandy HAND TRUCK!  or 4 clip-on-casters,  and you have a fairly large rolling cart.

I wonder how 2 SYS Maxi's might fit within the edge extrusions of an inverted MFT  (make that an "MFC"   [MF-Cart]  once you turn it upside-down ;D

it certainly takes the "multi-function" concept to a new level, doesn't it!

As a large flat trolley, you'd almost want one of the leg sets to swing ~270 degrees and become the handle!
 
Kev said:
stairman said:
Kev,  you just had a really great idea.  if I may expound on it?   - a "mobility kit" for the MFT!
In fact, it is such a good idea, that I can't afford to wait around and see if such a thing could ever be offered. (doubt it)

the rails on the MFT are designed with ACCESSORIES in mind,  -so what might make a good victim to cannibalize?   caster attachments + a flip down deck attached to the MFT underside,  and you have a handy dandy HAND TRUCK!  or 4 clip-on-casters,  and you have a fairly large rolling cart.

I wonder how 2 SYS Maxi's might fit within the edge extrusions of an inverted MFT  (make that an "MFC"   [MF-Cart]  once you turn it upside-down ;D

it certainly takes the "multi-function" concept to a new level, doesn't it!

As a large flat trolley, you'd almost want one of the leg sets to swing ~270 degrees and become the handle!

Why 270? Just roll it around upside down with one leg set in the normal position.

Seth
 
SRSemenza said:
Kev said:
stairman said:
Kev,  you just had a really great idea.  if I may expound on it?   - a "mobility kit" for the MFT!
In fact, it is such a good idea, that I can't afford to wait around and see if such a thing could ever be offered. (doubt it)

the rails on the MFT are designed with ACCESSORIES in mind,  -so what might make a good victim to cannibalize?   caster attachments + a flip down deck attached to the MFT underside,  and you have a handy dandy HAND TRUCK!  or 4 clip-on-casters,  and you have a fairly large rolling cart.

I wonder how 2 SYS Maxi's might fit within the edge extrusions of an inverted MFT  (make that an "MFC"   [MF-Cart]  once you turn it upside-down ;D

it certainly takes the "multi-function" concept to a new level, doesn't it!

As a large flat trolley, you'd almost want one of the leg sets to swing ~270 degrees and become the handle!

Why 270? Just roll it around upside down with one leg set in the normal position.

Seth
The MDF top isn't designed to take weight upside down - the locating bolts would just pull through. There'd be too much temptation to just pile a load of stuff in!
 
Hmmmmm, yeah, that would be a problem. Could be solved to a point by mounting the castors in the MFT holes. Or more like mount the castors on  approx. 10" x 10" (or whatever size works) squares that have 20mm pegs or whatever to fit in several holes. Although then the little castor dollies  have to be transported.

Yup, it  would be better if the transport devices get integrated into the system. 

Maybe use four Systainer Roll Boards for the dollies. Then when on site the MFT gets set up and the Roll Boards get used for the Systainer stacks.

Or use it right side up  and then the handle needs to be something other than just the handle. An MFT extension, etc.

Just tossing ideas around.

Seth

 
Shane Holland said:
If I'm not mistaken, the load rating is about 150 lbs. I currently have about 7 systainers on mine and it's shoulder height. They are built very robust. Load it up!

Shane,

You are going to lose your "Festool God" status... they are rated at 110 LBS... that is from the Festool info that came with my two. I remember this as I have labeled them with that fact on the top of both so someone doesn't over load them when they are on site.

Even the Festool sites says..."Mobile platform for Systainers maximum load 110 lbs. Comes with 4 locking straps used to secure Systainer(s) to the cart. Large casters make transport over rough terrain easy."

Cheers,
Steve
 
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