How to get younger tradespeople to buy Festool or other high quality tools...

[peter halle]

First we need to get younger people interested in the trades.  Make it so that the public perception of working with your brains and hands is not less acceptable than working in a cubicle.  With that will come the financial side for the employer and the employees that will support tools out of the norm for the beginners or less experienced.

Peter

 

[jacko9]

First we need to get younger people interested in the trades.  Make it so that the public perception of working with your brains and hands is not less acceptable than working in a cubicle.  With that will come the financial side for the employer and the employees that will support tools out of the norm for the beginners or less experienced.

Peter

I agree Peter and I think an important part of that is exposing younger folks to the crafts/trades and exposing more people to our crafts.

As an example when I first subscribed to Fine Woodworking/Fine Homebuilding they had a lot of folks that wanted to display their projects and these magazines were sold on the store rack for the general public to observe.  Recently I think Taunton Press is more interested in selling books and ads for their magazine instead of being a forum for craft display.

Jack

 

[Jonhilgen]

First we need to get younger people interested in the trades.  Make it so that the public perception of working with your brains and hands is not less acceptable than working in a cubicle.  With that will come the financial side for the employer and the employees that will support tools out of the norm for the beginners or less experienced.

Peter

I think Andy Rooney said it best:  "Working with ones hands does not preclude working with ones brain."

At my first job in a cabinet shop (Dedham Cabinet, MA), they actually gave me some money to buy some hand tools.  It wasn't much, but 15 years later, I still have the hammer, chisels, and screwdrivers I bought.  

It comes down to exposure, IMO.  If they don't know, how do they know they need better tools?

Jon

 

[r cash]

Had a nice moment today on this topic.
A thirty year old guy who has been working with me in the shop and onsite for the last  2 yrs.
More of framer by training with a good sense of detail. Told me that he is going to get he's own track saw.
Also has asked about precise layout squares and hand planes .
This I Know is progress in a positive direction its is a process sometimes slow.
Have a great day

 

[Stephen B]

First we need to get younger people interested in the trades.  Make it so that the public perception of working with your brains and hands is not less acceptable than working in a cubicle.  With that will come the financial side for the employer and the employees that will support tools out of the norm for the beginners or less experienced.

Peter

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I agree Peter

There is a growth down here of mature age people changing careers and taking up apprenticeships. I know of a cabinet maker, and a final year building apprentice who have University Degrees, the apprentice at Honors level. A month ago in the Melbourne Age there was a feature article about a young women who was also in her final year of a building apprenticeship. Her former career was interior decorating. I loved the quote: "building is so much more interesting and satisfying than puffing pillows".

 

[luke1984]

Hello people I'm 29 I got my first festool when I was 23 a.ts55 now 95% of my power tools are festool carnt fit them all in my van at once so have to just take what I need that day.[attachimg=#]

 

[Stone Message]

Hello people I'm 29 I got my first festool when I was 23 a.ts55 now 95% of my power tools are festool carnt fit them all in my van at once so have to just take what I need that day.[attachimg=#]

Hi Luke

Now you are sort of guy that I would have no hesitation in employing - your tools look well cared for and the van is highly presentable. All we have to do now is to get some of the 'would be' trades people to follow your lead.

Maybe by spending a lot on tools means that they will be looked after and in turn the whole presentation of the person on site is first class as well.

Peter

 

[wrightwoodwork]

I mind as an apprentice you had to have the job tidied up before you left. Now a lot of young ones straight out the door and home. Leave for tomorrow. I mist admit it feels good when you come in the morning and job is neat a tidy. I think people who generally keep their work place neat and tidy will produce neat and tidy work and take pride in what they do. I think it starts with attitude

 

[woodguy7]

Well said.  I was always taught to tidy up after myself as well.

Peter, i know the point you are trying to make but to me it seems you are trying to "push" Festool onto everyone.  Its not for everyone.
Your not a secret Festool sales rep by any chance are you 

 

[Stone Message]

Well said.  I was always taught to tidy up after myself as well.

Peter, i know the point you are trying to make but to me it seems you are trying to "push" Festool onto everyone.  Its not for everyone.
Your not a secret Festool sales rep by any chance are you 

I really take your point and am happy that we do not focus on Festool at all. It is just because this is the FOG that I see Festool as the prime candidate. In fact, I will amend the title now to keep a balance.

On the other point - nobody would employ me these days - my daily rate is too high!

Peter

 

[wrightwoodwork]

Well said.  I was always taught to tidy up after myself as well.

Peter, i know the point you are trying to make but to me it seems you are trying to "push" Festool onto everyone.  Its not for everyone.
Your not a secret Festool sales rep by any chance are you 

I really take your point and am happy that we do not focus on Festool at all. It is just because this is the FOG that I see Festool as the prime candidate. In fact, I will amend the title now to keep a balance.

On the other point - nobody would employ me these days - my daily rate is too high!

Peter

I thought you just did for the love of it

 

[Deansocial]

Hello people I'm 29 I got my first festool when I was 23 a.ts55 now 95% of my power tools are festool carnt fit them all in my van at once so have to just take what I need that day.[attachimg=#]

Luke, is that the ikea wardrobe system for racking?

 

[luke1984]

The cream bars and bracket are. the shelves are 1/2 inch ply with a 'l' shape ally screwed to the back and front so they run the full length of the van.

 

[Deansocial]

How's it working for you? Thought about doing this a good while back now but seeing yours has made me think about it again

 

[windmill man]

Great minds Dean, I did a shop fit a few months back and when I saw them I thought  Tanos on a budget [smile]

 

[luke1984]

Ya it's great quite a low cost too. The right side had a bit of flex being the size it is so I put a piece so banding in the middle screwed it to the roof and into each shelf no squeaks or rattles works great and totaly adjustable

 

[Deansocial]

Exactly what I thought, just need to get off my arse and do it

 

[Deansocial]

Are the poles easy to alter?

 

[luke1984]

Dean if you want me to post more pics on how I've fitted it let me know

 

[Deansocial]

I think a new thread is in order [tongue]