HSK 80 x 130 Hand Sanding Block and hoses

[Cheese]

Also, I didn't think the non-AS hose would be that big of a deal until I walked over and bumped into the washing machine after sanding.  Yikes!  Still worth it for the ease of use of the setup.

Ya that kind of gets your attention.  [smile]

 

[Geblaat]

I'm struggling getting this HSK 80 x 130 connected to the hose of the CTL MIDI-I which has should be the Ø 27/32 x 3,5 m-AS/CTR hose, the converters that came with the HSK 80x130 itself are too small and the rubber ring around it does not fit the MIDI hose.

Is there any connector/converter that I'm missing or should I try to get that D21,5 hose somewhere? Prefer to have a converter/connector though.

 

[semenza]

I'm struggling getting this HSK 80 x 130 connected to the hose of the CTL MIDI-I which has should be the Ø 27/32 x 3,5 m-AS/CTR hose, the converters that came with the HSK 80x130 itself are too small and the rubber ring around it does not fit the MIDI hose.

Is there any connector/converter that I'm missing or should I try to get that D21,5 hose somewhere? Prefer to have a converter/connector though.

Hi,

    I just tried it with the new style 27 connector. I got it to go on the reducing ring. But it is an extremely tight fit. It is tight on the old style but even more so on the new.

    I did a quick internet search and the 495019 hose is still available. If you plan to use the sanding block much at all, then you will  appreciate  the much lighter hose. 

Seth

 

[Cheese]

I'd echo what Seth suggested especially if you're using it vertically or over your head. The weight of the heavier hose wants to constantly pull it down. I managed to attach my HSK 80 directly to the older style AS green hose and the operation was clunky on vertical surfaces.

The only drawback is that the 21.5 hose is non antistatic,  [sad]  so if you bump up against something that's grounded, well, you'll be subtly reminded.

 

[afish]

I dont know why but none of my hoses are anti static and I have never gotten one shock plus I have about 50' of pvc.  I live in very high humidity location so not sure if thats why but it seems odd while others have issues.

 

[Cheese]

I dont know why but none of my hoses are anti static and I have never gotten one shock plus I have about 50' of pvc.  I live in very high humidity location so not sure if thats why but it seems odd while others have issues.

High humidity is your friend.  [smile]

 

[John T.]

I just received this sanding block, and the vent is extremely difficult to turn. I was able to turn it with a lot of effort and time but I don't think I'd try it again without gloves. I remember a review mentioning it moved too easily, so I'm wondering if Festool over compensated. Regardless, should I keep it anyway because I won't need to adjust it very often if at all?

Is the vent necessary if you can adjust the suction at the DC?

 

[Cheese]

I just received this sanding block, and the vent is extremely difficult to turn. I was able to turn it with a lot of effort and time but I don't think I'd try it again without gloves. I remember a review mentioning it moved too easily, so I'm wondering if Festool over compensated. Regardless, should I keep it anyway because I won't need to adjust it very often if at all?

Is the vent necessary if you can adjust the suction at the DC?

My valve stiffens up considerably after it hasn't been used in a while, so when I need to grab a pliers to turn it, I instead lightly lubricate it with DynaGlide and that's all it takes.

I still use the vent even though I'm using a MINI, MIDI or CT 22 because the vent is on the tool and I don't have to walk 15 feet to adjust the suction of the vac.

 

[John T.]

I just received this sanding block, and the vent is extremely difficult to turn. I was able to turn it with a lot of effort and time but I don't think I'd try it again without gloves. I remember a review mentioning it moved too easily, so I'm wondering if Festool over compensated. Regardless, should I keep it anyway because I won't need to adjust it very often if at all?

Is the vent necessary if you can adjust the suction at the DC?

My valve stiffens up considerably after it hasn't been used in a while, so when I need to grab a pliers to turn it, I instead lightly lubricate it with DynaGlide and that's all it takes.

I still use the vent even though I'm using a MINI, MIDI or CT 22 because the vent is on the tool and I don't have to walk 15 feet to adjust the suction of the vac.

Good to know. I just removed the valve from the block (required vice grips) and now the green collar will turn. I'll try lubing it and reinstalling.

Edit: I applied a drop of oil, and I can rotate it by hand now. Thanks for the suggestion.

 

[semenza]

I just received this sanding block, and the vent is extremely difficult to turn. I was able to turn it with a lot of effort and time but I don't think I'd try it again without gloves. I remember a review mentioning it moved too easily, so I'm wondering if Festool over compensated. Regardless, should I keep it anyway because I won't need to adjust it very often if at all?

Is the vent necessary if you can adjust the suction at the DC?

I haven't used mine in a while so I can't confirm the setting up over time. But Initially I found it was way too loose. Kept accidentally closing it. I ended up taping mine open. I have never wanted it closed at all even with vac suction turned down.

Seth

 

[NiteWalkerGR]

Re-reviving this thread, I picked up the block and 21.5 mm hose thanks to this thread.
Since I didn't pick it up until a week ago, now the new Systainer3s are out, and we know that they're sized differently.

Not knowing how much spare room was in the SYS-II TLoc, I took a risk and ordered a Sys3 M 137 to see if things would fit.

To my pleasure, they fit like a glove in a Sys3 M - 137.

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If you need more room, the 187 is the next size up, and slightly larger than the old SYS-II TLoc.  It should be more than enough room for the block, hose, and I don't know what else.

Also, I didn't think the non-AS hose would be that big of a deal until I walked over and bumped into the washing machine after sanding.  Yikes!  Still worth it for the ease of use of the setup.

Thanks for this. I just bought the HSK block and the 21.5mm hose for some small drywall patches I need to do around the house and wasn't sure which sys3 would work best. I was between the 137 and 187 but I'm glad to see the 137 fits everything nicely.
And thanks Seth for the review!

 

[derekcohen]

I have had the slightly smaller Mirka version of this hand sander for a few years, and use it with Abranet mesh.

Originally, it was used with the 27mm Festool hose, but I found this to be too bulky and heavy. I purchased the 22mm Mirka antistatic hose, and this is night-and-day different .. and so much better. It fits perfectly into my CT 26e vacuum cleaner.

Regards from Perth

Derek

 

[leakyroof]

I have had the slightly smaller Mirka version of this hand sander for a few years, and use it with Abranet mesh.

Originally, it was used with the 27mm Festool hose, but I found this to be too bulky and heavy. I purchased the 22mm Mirka antistatic hose, and this is night-and-day different .. and so much better. It fits perfectly into my CT 26e vacuum cleaner.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Yes, having a skinnier, lighter hose really makes the hand held sanding blocks a delight!

 

[woodferret]

I've been looking for the Mirka version but all I see are the 70x125 versions.  Did they redo the sizes or are people sticking the 80x130 and abranet 3x5 pads on it regardless?

 

[smorgasbord]

I have a new LS 130 that I still need to fire up. Should I add this hand pad since it uses the same papers?

How hard/soft is the pad on the HSK? I hope it's pretty hard, as one can always add interface pads to soften it.

Right now I use a dense cork sanding block, to which I've added some hook backing to try out. Cork blocks are great for hand sanding, except for dust.

 

[semenza]

I have a new LS 130 that I still need to fire up. Should I add this hand pad since it uses the same papers?

How hard/soft is the pad on the HSK? I hope it's pretty hard, as one can always add interface pads to soften it.

Right now I use a dense cork sanding block, to which I've added some hook backing to try out. Cork blocks are great for hand sanding, except for dust.

It is what I would call medium hard.  It has a bit of squishiness but is also thin so starts to compress against the hard plastic block with out much compression.  Compared to a Festool power sander pads I would say it falls right in between hard and medium.

Seth

 

[Andreas10]

I have had the slightly smaller Mirka version of this hand sander for a few years, and use it with Abranet mesh.

Originally, it was used with the 27mm Festool hose, but I found this to be too bulky and heavy. I purchased the 22mm Mirka antistatic hose, and this is night-and-day different .. and so much better. It fits perfectly into my CT 26e vacuum cleaner.

Regards from Perth

Derek

Good Morning Derek,

The Mirka suction hose is interesting.
But I can see two hoses in the picture.
One with the plastic end for the suction cup and one with this conical rubber end.
Which suction hose do you use and do you have a part number for it?

Many thanks for your help

Regards
Andreas

 

[unixisgoodforyou]

I have a mirka hand sanding set similar to this one: Mirka set