Is Festool still Festool

nickao said:
Its really the opposite isn't it. The low end(B&D) buying the high end(Festool) as opposed to high end(Mercedes) buying the low end(Chrysler).

Watch it!  [blink]  I love my Hemi Durango!!!  [cool]
 
Wonderwino said:
nickao said:
Its really the opposite isn't it. The low end(B&D) buying the high end(Festool) as opposed to high end(Mercedes) buying the low end(Chrysler).

Watch it!   [blink]  I love my Hemi Durango!!!   [cool]

mercedes is hardly high end, mostly tat with a very poor service from the Uk dealerships.Ask Clarkson
 
Tom Bellemare said:
Chris:

Stanley owns B&D, Delta, DeWalt, Bostich, Proto, Price Pfister, Facom... To name only a few.

Tom

Facom?  Yikes, now that is horrible to hear.  I've owned Facom tools for almost 20 years.  I guess they are collector tools now.
 
I think some are missing the point here. Its quite possible for a company to own high and low end brands and still make both a sucess without compromise.. Bentley cars have the same ownership as Skoda.. there a numerous other brands one could mentioned. Often the way its works is the high end remain high quality, whilst some of the concepts are pushed down to the lower end lines, allowing the consumer to benefit to benefit from some of the high end innovation at a lower quality and cost
 
In '97, a friend of mine in Munchen had a new Jag for a company car. I had a strange feeling of deja vu sitting in it until I realized that the appointments were strangely like a Crown Vic'.

If you look at what B&D did to the companies that they bought before being bought themselves by Stanley, you might agree that often it is just the opposite of what you are suggesting.

Tom
 
If you look at what B&D did to the companies that they bought before being bought themselves by Stanley, you might agree that often it is just the opposite of what you are suggesting.

Tom
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Agree Tom.    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_&_Decker.

Many times those mergers just take those older companies,  cannibalize them and leave nothing but the name (once proud - now meaningless - other than to be synonymous with junk). Yep, plenty of people making $$$, but IMHO, it's the former employees getting the short end of the stick.

Bob
 
Maybe Festool should buy skill, they already have a bench to put a saw or the like in. [poke] [big grin] [big grin]
 
Hmm, I guess that my original Festool produced Festools will be worth a lot of money on fleabay... Even that "original" cap, cup, ruler etc.    [big grin] [big grin] [big grin]
Not that I'm selling though. I've seen too many dewalts, skil, etc go back to repair.

Btw. Skoda was once amongst the absolute top cars on this planet; like Hispano Suiza. And I think they are getting back strongly today (in a more modest market). Producing something is not anymore a matter of oing it yourself, but also a matter of planetary ressources, markets, ethics etc. Look at VAG downsizing their engines. Something american producers did not really do in time, but we'll see how they adapt.

Anyway I sure hope that Festool will continue as is. No chineese scrap to me please (no offence intended here in any way, shape or form). Look for example at what the chineese have done to prof. bicycle frames, most are now made in China, and to the worse. Only a few remain quality (and independent).

Cheers,
Jacques.
 
Tom Bellemare said:
Chris:

Stanley owns B&D, Delta, DeWalt, Bostich, Proto, Price Pfister, Facom... To name only a few.

Tom

I was about to tell you that was BS, but looked it up.  Geez.
You left out Porter Cable.
Aside from Festool...  that pretty much leaves Bosch and Milwaukee.  Somebody big owns Milwaukee don't they?
 
Toller said:
Tom Bellemare said:
Chris:

Stanley owns B&D, Delta, DeWalt, Bostich, Proto, Price Pfister, Facom... To name only a few.

Tom

I was about to tell you that was BS, but looked it up.  Geez.
You left out Porter Cable.
Aside from Festool...  that pretty much leaves Bosch and Milwaukee.  Somebody big owns Milwaukee don't they?

Last I knew they were part of the Atlas Copco group.

            Skylar
 
From wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milwaukee_Electric_Tool_Company

The Milwaukee Electric Tool Corporation is a manufacturer of heavy-duty portable electric power tools and accessories. The company was acquired by Hong Kong based Techtronic Industries in 2005. Techtronic is a public company, traded on Hong Kong's Heng Seng exchange. "Milwaukee" is now part of the Techtronic brand portfolio that includes AEG and Ryobi power tools and accessories; Ryobi and Homelite outdoor products, and Hoover, Dirt Devil and Vax.
 
TTI also owns the Ridgid brand.

So they have three "tiers" in their product line:
Ryobi
Ridgid
Milwaukee
 
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