It's Finally here... The Precision Plate for Incra Positioners!!

[WilliamT]

@Todd

same issue here. I used a pair of washers on each srew between the plate and the red base.
In Future i will drill the six holes in the gold LS base, but it‘s hard to get inch screws here in germany.

This setup is very exciting to use, thoisands times better than the CMS fence.

Greetings from Germany,

WilliamT

picture shows the LS in my wall mount for storage

 

[Jerry Ostashevskyi]

@Todd

same issue here. I used a pair of washers on each srew between the plate and the red base.
In Future i will drill the six holes in the gold LS base, but it‘s hard to get inch screws here in germany.

This setup is very exciting to use, thoisands times better than the CMS fence.

Greetings from Germany,

WilliamT

picture shows the LS in my wall mount for storage

Hi [member=69236]WilliamT[/member]!

Depending on your setup, you can just loosen (2) screws that hold the fence to LS carriage assembly and adjust the fence to compensate for the height difference.

Let me know if it will work for you!

P.S. If anyone has any questions about Precision Plate fit, do not hesitate to contact me here or drop me an email directly.

 

[tjskinny]

During assembly I had tried to use the slots in the fence connection plate, but the slots are located to low to work without shimming up the Incra assembly.

1st image shows height difference

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This show screw through slot at the “highest” position that will not thread into the mating nut at this position.  Slot is just not quite in the right spot.  I could have extended the slot to make it work, but choose to shim.

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[vkumar]

I am really curious how the incra LS connects to the Festool CMS fence, for those you you that went that route.  Detailed pictures would be appreciated.

Also for those that used the red plate on the LS without holes, how simple is the process? Does the plate without holes unbolt easily without worrying about lead screw engagement, etc ?

[member=71502]Jerry Ostashevskyi[/member] could you please address my above questions. Thanks

 

[Jerry Ostashevskyi]

During assembly I had tried to use the slots in the fence connection plate, but the slots are located to low to work without shimming up the Incra assembly.

1st image shows height difference

This show screw through slot at the “highest” position that will not thread into the mating nut at this position.  Slot is just not quite in the right spot.  I could have extended the slot to make it work, but choose to shim.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention, and you are correct on not extending the slot. Shimming is a way to go.

When we have changed plate design from the older style(removable dogs) to a new pin style, the overall profile has been lowered to eliminate extra weight which resulted in this 0.125" height difference which is easily solved with a set of washers. We will address it right away and washers will be included with future orders!

 

[Jerry Ostashevskyi]

I am really curious how the incra LS connects to the Festool CMS fence, for those you you that went that route.  Detailed pictures would be appreciated.

Also for those that used the red plate on the LS without holes, how simple is the process? Does the plate without holes unbolt easily without worrying about lead screw engagement, etc ?

[member=71502]Jerry Ostashevskyi[/member] could you please address my above questions. Thanks

Unfortunately, I have no experience on setting up the Festool fence with the Incra Positioner and can't really comment on that. Sorry.

As to swapping plate, it's a matter of 3-5 minutes. You will have to remove the LS carriage assembly completely (slide it out). After remove the screws that hold the plastic screen which will allow you to reach the screws that hold the LS base to the subbase. Remove them, swap the plate, and repeat all steps in reverse. Let me know if something is unclear and I will try to elaborate on that.

 

[08G8V8]

@Todd

same issue here. I used a pair of washers on each srew between the plate and the red base.
In Future i will drill the six holes in the gold LS base, but it‘s hard to get inch screws here in germany.

This setup is very exciting to use, thoisands times better than the CMS fence.

Greetings from Germany,

WilliamT

picture shows the LS in my wall mount for storage

William, can you provide another view of how you have this mounted/stored on your wall?

I am in the process of designing my own 80/20 MFT style table, and looking to do the Incra LS system as well, and would really like to know exactly how you mount this for storage.

Thanks!

 

[WilliamT]

@ 08G8V8

I will ad some more pics tomorow evening. CET
This is not my design, i have seen a similar wall mount here in FOG

William

 

[08G8V8]

@ 08G8V8

I will ad some more pics tomorow evening. CET
This is not my design, i have seen a similar wall mount here in FOG

William

Thanks William!  I just ordered my Incra system and Precision Dog plates tonight. 

I’m new to the forum, so I haven’t seen them, and it would take forever to search for them, so I appreciate it.

 

[08G8V8]

@ 08G8V8

I will ad some more pics tomorow evening. CET
This is not my design, i have seen a similar wall mount here in FOG

William

I found this thread with some zoomed out photos showing the mounting concept.  He installed his at an angle to give more access to the screw to secure it.https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/...how-do-you-store-you-incra-fences-and-rulesc/

 

[WilliamT]

Hello 08G8V8,

here some pictures of my wall mount; just some piece of scrap MDF and plywood, 96mm hole pattern and a 6° tilt. At the bottom two sliding nuts to keep the auxiliary fence and three holes to keep screws and hextool, one screw secures the plate in the wall mount.

Greetings from Germany, Will[attachimg=1][attachmini=2][attachimg=2][attachimg=3][attachimg=4][attachimg=5]

 

[08G8V8]

Thanks for the detailed pics.  I couldn't tell you had an angle to yours from the original pic.  This is perfect, and I will be doing the same. 

 

[Papajoe]

i find it ironic, of how we all try to modify the festool products, to fix their shortcomings; re:buy green vl router table, the replace the fence system so you can effectively use it. or... buy a domino, then buy 3rd party plates and accessories to make it work and compensate for drift.  or buy a ts55 set, and an extra rail for longer material; wait the squareness of the rail is off, and joining 2 rails requires after market squares. these festoons are expensive and should work right out of the box. imo.

 

[Vondawg]

When you put it that way I wince too... [crying]....but then I never bought a motorcycle, car/truck...boat....I didn’t alter and make it perform better, sooooo....

 

[simonh]

I think alot of us are probably using the tools for more than what they were designed for.  For example, we want our square cuts to be within 0.001" per ft and repeatable length cutting to a fraction of a mm for making joinery projects whereas the MFT and rail square is probably fine precision for an on-site joiner cutting a kitchen end panel down that will then be caulked around. 

 

[simonh]

I've recently been playing around with the idea of moving the Incra from taking up the MFT surface. It's still a prototype with parts machined on my CNC. 

I made a mounting bracket to allow the Precision Plate to be quickly attached/detached vertically. Then, I made a 1/2" aluminium bracket to fasten the fence to the rail. I was originally using the Incra fence but I sold that when I upgraded to the Jessem TA fence for the router table.  So, I'm now using a 80x40 extrusion for the fence. There was some play at the back of the fence that I wasn't happy about and also without the fence been clamped to the table the Jessem stock guides don't work as well as they should. So, at the front there is a delrin block that rides along the chanell in the MFT and for the back a delrin gripper that grabs under the V groove. This is locked by rotating the handle at the front 180 degrees. It is now rock solid and you could pick up the table by the fence!  I've also been playing with a sliding tenoning like jig similar to the VSC tools jig. 

Overall, I'm really happy. The fence seems to align perfect front to back at any position from 0-600mm. I think the only negative I'm seeing so far is that the screw for the Incra is facing upwards so maybe prone to sawdust over long-term. Also, the handle on the Incra could be a little smaller so it doesn't protrude so far. 

 

[Jerry Ostashevskyi]

Kudos to you!

What an interesting approach to using our Precision Plate!
As to the back of the fence, I think we can come up with some sort of a clamping bracket to secure it in a perpendicular position if there is a need.
Please contact me and we can discuss possible solutions.

Cheers!
Jerry

I've recently been playing around with the idea of moving the Incra from taking up the MFT surface. It's still a prototype with parts machined on my CNC. 

I made a mounting bracket to allow the Precision Plate to be quickly attached/detached vertically. Then, I made a 1/2" aluminium bracket to fasten the fence to the rail. I was originally using the Incra fence but I sold that when I upgraded to the Jessem TA fence for the router table.  So, I'm now using a 80x40 extrusion for the fence. There was some play at the back of the fence that I wasn't happy about and also without the fence been clamped to the table the Jessem stock guides don't work as well as they should. So, at the front there is a delrin block that rides along the chanell in the MFT and for the back a delrin gripper that grabs under the V groove. This is locked by rotating the handle at the front 180 degrees. It is now rock solid and you could pick up the table by the fence!  I've also been playing with a sliding tenoning like jig similar to the VSC tools jig. 

Overall, I'm really happy. The fence seems to align perfect front to back at any position from 0-600mm. I think the only negative I'm seeing so far is that the screw for the Incra is facing upwards so maybe prone to sawdust over long-term. Also, the handle on the Incra could be a little smaller so it doesn't protrude so far.

 

[Michael Kellough]

I think alot of us are probably using the tools for more than what they were designed for.  For example, we want our square cuts to be within 0.001" per ft and repeatable length cutting to a fraction of a mm for making joinery projects whereas the MFT and rail square is probably fine precision for an on-site joiner cutting a kitchen end panel down that will then be caulked around.

If people spent as much time learning how to get the most from their Festools as they spend modifying them, they’d realize they didn’t really need to be modified.

 

[jeh]

A lot of finagling and extra work when the solution was to spend less than $500 on a Dewalt portable tablesaw.

 

[usernumber1]

I use my fence for the router. i don't have the pegs but it's still a very similar approach to mount on the table, and even the storing on the wall is similar