jmbfestool
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Yeah it has legs and the ramps are stored below. The legs stop it from tipping so you can drive onto the trailer.
Like I have done with my fork
Like I have done with my fork
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I was torn between I for Williams or. Brian James.Alan m said:
Then after some researching I found brain James was more like festool with nice features!
I found I for Williams trailers very out dated! Only being slightly cheaper than brain James. So I get the feeling I for Williams are living off their name and not bothering to create innovative solutions.
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Well main ones I like are the
Auto lock sides!
Quickly fold down or remove the sides no pins etc!
Same with the centre posts they just pull off no pins.
Auto lock sides!
Quickly fold down or remove the sides no pins etc!
Same with the centre posts they just pull off no pins.
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Comes standard with internal strap points 8
I for Williams does not
I for Williams does not
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Improved brakes and suspension.
I for Williams still use old leaf springs also are known for brakes to seize up if left standing for a while.
I for Williams still use old leaf springs also are known for brakes to seize up if left standing for a while.
JMB, I don't think i like the design of that trailer. I use my ancient trailer (1987) tandem axle every day during the landscaping season.
I think all of those tailgate and sidegate semi hidden catches will eventually haunt you. i have seen the pics of your loader/forklift machine and i know you are not bashful about working in muddy conditions. You will need to clean those catches often. Every day if moving your machine in wet weather.
i had a truck body with removable posts between drop down sides. I had to remove bolts and put back in when i wanted flat bed. That could get to be a real PITA, especially in winter freezing temps and ice conditions. I would never get another body like that.
The tie down points are a terrific dirt collector system. Give me floppy rings and solid welded bars along the side rails. I have ratchet type straps that i can hook up anywhere on my trailer. When I was having it built, i told my fabricator it was impossible for him to put too many tiedown pionts. as his assistant was welding all of those rings and bars, he constantly complained about my sanity. I have not spent the time to try to finally figure out how to post pics here on the FOG, but I have not seen too many trailers, if any, with as many tiedown points as mine.
I don't understand the suspension. From your pic, it looks like the only flex is tire pressure. Is it torsion suspension? That is probably better than leaf springs, but I am not familliar with torsion on a trailer. Those axles do look tough. I have 3750# axles (each axle)and I have already had to replace after first 15 years. I think mine are way over speced for the loads i carry. i don't think i have ever had more than 6000# gross, but the axles have broken down. I guess they get tired after day in and day out use. Your axles look to be much heavier. But I like leaf spring suspension.
Over all, if you can keep mud and other debris out of all those catches, and avoid denting or bending (that complicates hooking and unhooking those hidden catches) the tail gate and side gates, the trailer should give you satisfaction for many moons. Of course, if you get tired of it, you could always put pontoons on it and send it across the pond to my place. :
Tinker
I think all of those tailgate and sidegate semi hidden catches will eventually haunt you. i have seen the pics of your loader/forklift machine and i know you are not bashful about working in muddy conditions. You will need to clean those catches often. Every day if moving your machine in wet weather.
i had a truck body with removable posts between drop down sides. I had to remove bolts and put back in when i wanted flat bed. That could get to be a real PITA, especially in winter freezing temps and ice conditions. I would never get another body like that.
The tie down points are a terrific dirt collector system. Give me floppy rings and solid welded bars along the side rails. I have ratchet type straps that i can hook up anywhere on my trailer. When I was having it built, i told my fabricator it was impossible for him to put too many tiedown pionts. as his assistant was welding all of those rings and bars, he constantly complained about my sanity. I have not spent the time to try to finally figure out how to post pics here on the FOG, but I have not seen too many trailers, if any, with as many tiedown points as mine.
I don't understand the suspension. From your pic, it looks like the only flex is tire pressure. Is it torsion suspension? That is probably better than leaf springs, but I am not familliar with torsion on a trailer. Those axles do look tough. I have 3750# axles (each axle)and I have already had to replace after first 15 years. I think mine are way over speced for the loads i carry. i don't think i have ever had more than 6000# gross, but the axles have broken down. I guess they get tired after day in and day out use. Your axles look to be much heavier. But I like leaf spring suspension.
Over all, if you can keep mud and other debris out of all those catches, and avoid denting or bending (that complicates hooking and unhooking those hidden catches) the tail gate and side gates, the trailer should give you satisfaction for many moons. Of course, if you get tired of it, you could always put pontoons on it and send it across the pond to my place. :
Tinker
jmbfestool said:Improved brakes and suspension.
I for Williams still use old leaf springs also are known for brakes to seize up if left standing for a while.
I like the overall design of the trailer, the latches do appear to present a possible future problem if damaged or dirty. One of my trailers has similar torsion suspension which has proven superior in those size trailers. [thumbs up]
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Tinker said:JMB, I don't think i like the design of that trailer. I use my ancient trailer (1987) tandem axle every day during the landscaping season.
I think all of those tailgate and sidegate semi hidden catches will eventually haunt you. i have seen the pics of your loader/forklift machine and i know you are not bashful about working in muddy conditions. You will need to clean those catches often. Every day if moving your machine in wet weather.
i had a truck body with removable posts between drop down sides. I had to remove bolts and put back in when i wanted flat bed. That could get to be a real PITA, especially in winter freezing temps and ice conditions. I would never get another body like that.
The tie down points are a terrific dirt collector system. Give me floppy rings and solid welded bars along the side rails. I have ratchet type straps that i can hook up anywhere on my trailer. When I was having it built, i told my fabricator it was impossible for him to put too many tiedown pionts. as his assistant was welding all of those rings and bars, he constantly complained about my sanity. I have not spent the time to try to finally figure out how to post pics here on the FOG, but I have not seen too many trailers, if any, with as many tiedown points as mine.
I don't understand the suspension. From your pic, it looks like the only flex is tire pressure. Is it torsion suspension? That is probably better than leaf springs, but I am not familliar with torsion on a trailer. Those axles do look tough. I have 3750# axles (each axle)and I have already had to replace after first 15 years. I think mine are way over speced for the loads i carry. i don't think i have ever had more than 6000# gross, but the axles have broken down. I guess they get tired after day in and day out use. Your axles look to be much heavier. But I like leaf spring suspension.
Over all, if you can keep mud and other debris out of all those catches, and avoid denting or bending (that complicates hooking and unhooking those hidden catches) the tail gate and side gates, the trailer should give you satisfaction for many moons. Of course, if you get tired of it, you could always put pontoons on it and send it across the pond to my place. :
Tinker
That's another pointer about the tiedown points i forgot to mention which you did mention. Mud!
Brian James are holes with metal flaps so mud just falls through to the ground so don't fill up. Down side to just holes with rings you can thread through a rope you can't with these hole tiedown points.
No I'm not shy getting muddy or using something to its fullest! But I do look after my tools!
I do not intend to damage my trailer nor do I intend to get the catches covered in mud. Yes the flat bed will get muddy dirty scratches but I can't see why I would ever manage getting the catches covered in mudd/dirt
I have never seen torsion suspension on small trailers.
For my brakes, i have a solar charged system to keep the electric brakes charged. I was told it was good for at least five years. I park the truck/trailer in the sun. so far, aftr five years, the system seems to still be working fine. It is much better than the old brake system which depended entirely on the truck alternator/battery.
Another point i do like on the trailer is completely anodized aluminum. i am sure it is very light weight in comparison to mine. I have boxes welded into the sides and over the A-frame with steel fenders strong enough to use as a work bench in emergencies.
Total weight [scared] 2500#s. I bet JMB's trailer doesn't weight half that. I approve of that.
Tinker
For my brakes, i have a solar charged system to keep the electric brakes charged. I was told it was good for at least five years. I park the truck/trailer in the sun. so far, aftr five years, the system seems to still be working fine. It is much better than the old brake system which depended entirely on the truck alternator/battery.
Another point i do like on the trailer is completely anodized aluminum. i am sure it is very light weight in comparison to mine. I have boxes welded into the sides and over the A-frame with steel fenders strong enough to use as a work bench in emergencies.
Total weight [scared] 2500#s. I bet JMB's trailer doesn't weight half that. I approve of that.
Tinker
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Tinker said:
Gross Load 3500kg. Weight of trailer 720kg. So I can carry 2780kg
jmbfestool said:Tinker said:JMB, I don't think i like the design of that trailer. I use my ancient trailer (1987) tandem axle every day during the landscaping season.
I think all of those tailgate and sidegate semi hidden catches will eventually haunt you. i have seen the pics of your loader/forklift machine and i know you are not bashful about working in muddy conditions. You will need to clean those catches often. Every day if moving your machine in wet weather.
i had a truck body with removable posts between drop down sides. I had to remove bolts and put back in when i wanted flat bed. That could get to be a real PITA, especially in winter freezing temps and ice conditions. I would never get another body like that.
The tie down points are a terrific dirt collector system. Give me floppy rings and solid welded bars along the side rails. I have ratchet type straps that i can hook up anywhere on my trailer. When I was having it built, i told my fabricator it was impossible for him to put too many tiedown pionts. as his assistant was welding all of those rings and bars, he constantly complained about my sanity. I have not spent the time to try to finally figure out how to post pics here on the FOG, but I have not seen too many trailers, if any, with as many tiedown points as mine.
I don't understand the suspension. From your pic, it looks like the only flex is tire pressure. Is it torsion suspension? That is probably better than leaf springs, but I am not familliar with torsion on a trailer. Those axles do look tough. I have 3750# axles (each axle)and I have already had to replace after first 15 years. I think mine are way over speced for the loads i carry. i don't think i have ever had more than 6000# gross, but the axles have broken down. I guess they get tired after day in and day out use. Your axles look to be much heavier. But I like leaf spring suspension.
Over all, if you can keep mud and other debris out of all those catches, and avoid denting or bending (that complicates hooking and unhooking those hidden catches) the tail gate and side gates, the trailer should give you satisfaction for many moons. Of course, if you get tired of it, you could always put pontoons on it and send it across the pond to my place. :
Tinker
That's another pointer about the tiedown points i forgot to mention which you did mention. Mud!
Brian James are holes with metal flaps so mud just falls through to the ground so don't fill up. Down side to just holes with rings you can thread through a rope you can't with these hole tiedown points.
No I'm not shy getting muddy or using something to its fullest! But I do look after my tools!
I do not intend to damage my trailer nor do I intend to get the catches covered in mud. Yes the flat bed will get muddy dirty scratches but I can't see why I would ever manage getting the catches covered in mudd/dirt
Lots of luck on that [popcorn]
Just wait til some freezing afternoon with the rain freezing and you have an hours ride to get home with a machine that has been bogging in mud all day. [scratch chin] [poke] [popcorn]
Tinker
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Timtool said:
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I've never towed a dual-axle trailer but have thousands of miles towing boats on single-axle trailers. Are their characteristics similar?
With a single-axle, I found that if the tongue weight was too light, they wanted to fishtail and the heavier the tongue, within reason, the more stable the trailer.
Tom
With a single-axle, I found that if the tongue weight was too light, they wanted to fishtail and the heavier the tongue, within reason, the more stable the trailer.
Tom
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Tinker said:
The trailer is not hitched onto anything I just drove it onto the trailer cus I was playing with my new trailer. The green toy is not on the trailer any more. I have been moving 5 trailer loads of mud/clay from all the footings I dug the other day.
The green toy weighs 1350kg
+forks 105kg
+bucket 90kg
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Tom Bellemare said:
The same, only heavier. So, the tail wags the dog. [eek]
A double axle is a lot more stable. You can load so very little weight added to the tungue and it still won't fishtail on you, especially with four wheel brakes. With single axle, you almost have to put the weight a little further to the front. you never want to overload the front if hauling heavy load. I actually folded a trailer doing that. A 23 foot dual axle 6 ton trailer with 4 ton excavator loaded beteen front axle and the hitch. One does not do that for very far. [scared]
Another thing i like about dual axle trailer vs single axle is, with a single axle, you get a flat (it does happen you know), you have to change the tire/wheel right there. With dual axle, you can adjust the load so you can get to a lot or home on three wheels before you need to change. I have limped home over twenty miles with a flat tire and a couple of mowers, or my tractor loader on board.
i am keeping my eyes open for a closed box trailer. I can find single axle trailers, but a dual axle trailer in good condition and reasonable price seems to be hard to find.
Tinker
Another thing i like about dual axle trailer vs single axle is, with a single axle, you get a flat (it does happen you know), you have to change the tire/wheel right there. With dual axle, you can adjust the load so you can get to a lot or home on three wheels before you need to change. I have limped home over twenty miles with a flat tire and a couple of mowers, or my tractor loader on board.
i am keeping my eyes open for a closed box trailer. I can find single axle trailers, but a dual axle trailer in good condition and reasonable price seems to be hard to find.
Tinker
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