Just Arrived At My Door - SYS-AZ Drawers 500692

[peter halle]

Gentlemen,

Let's move back into the 2014's please.  It is normal for the US to get new Festool product offerings later than the rest of the world.

Peter

 

[Stephen B]

[size=14pt]They are not available anywhere outside Europe as yet.
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I have to ask, if some members cannot move past the 1940s and their disastrous  affect on so many countries (not just the USA) and including Germany, why do you use Festool products?

 

[Kev]

Bad taste guys ... particularly in the current world climate.

I can't wait to see a build with these, extra credit if done with 80/20 profiles [smile]

 

[wow]

Gentlemen,

It is normal for the US to get new Festool product offerings later than the rest of the world.

Peter

True - but we don't have to LIKE it. Heck, I'll keep fighting to not even ACCEPT it!!!

But it is one of the main things we have to complain about. If they ever get on a reasonable timely release schedule for the US, it would eliminate half of my posts!!!

[wink] [big grin] [thumbs up]

(In case the humor didn't come through, a more timely release schedule would be a GOOD thing for everyone! As for eliminating half of my posts...well, if those posts are all complaints about NAINA stuff, then I think that would be a good thing, too! Win-Win!)

 

[Kev]

Gentlemen,

It is normal for the US to get new Festool product offerings later than the rest of the world.

Peter

True - but we don't have to LIKE it. Heck, I'll keep fighting to not even ACCEPT it!!!

But it is one of the main things we have to complain about. If they ever get on a reasonable timely release schedule for the US, it would eliminate half of my posts!!!

[wink] [big grin] [thumbs up]

(In case the humor didn't come through, a more timely release schedule would be a GOOD thing for everyone! As for eliminating half of my posts...well, if those posts are all complaints about NAINA stuff, then I think that would be a good thing, too! Win-Win!)

Oh crap - now we get the Dr Covey rationale ...  [ban] [ban] [ban]

 

[Stephen B]

Oh crap - now we get the Dr Covey rationale ...  [ban] [ban] [ban]
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[smile]

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“Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; they listen with the intent to reply.”

“Two people can see the same thing, disagree, and yet both be right. It's not logical; it's psychological.”

“We see the world, not as it is, but as we are──or, as we are conditioned to see it.”

― Stephen R. Covey, The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People: Powerful Lessons in Personal Change

 

[wow]

Bad taste guys ... particularly in the current world climate.

My apologies. That was indeed in poor taste, and certainly qualifies as a political comment which has no place here and which I TRY to avoid becoming involved with. I am genuinely sorry for posting that. Since it's been quoted I can't remove it, but I guess I can once again serve as a bad example...

[embarassed]

In case it wasn't already obvious, I am not particularly 'politically correct'. I tend to say what I think regardless of whether it is 'popular' or not. I *DO* try not to be offensive, as that serves no purpose.

My frustration over all the NAINA stuff got the best of me and I let my judgement lapse. Although it does sometimes seem that NA is being ignored or put in last place for product releases, I will endeavor to be more sensitive in the future...

but I will still continue to be a very vocal thorn in Festool's side over why so much stuff is NAINA and why it takes so #&*@% long to get here!!!

[big grin]

 

[gippy]

but I will still continue to be a very vocal thorn in Festool's side over why so much stuff is NAINA and why it takes so #&*@% long to get here!!!

[big grin]

You get the stuff late but at half the price of anywhere else, I know which one I would take.  [smile]

 

[hilld]

This is really no different than Apple releasing their latest i in the US market first. Festool is a German company and will release their products in the Vaterland first, then as production catches up with demand release the products in other places. Even though Festool is a global company, they do not have the capacity to scale a new product from nothing to a number high enough to fulfill worldwide demand in a very short period of time.

Remember it is not only production capacity, but also certifications that is required in the various countries. It would be fantastic if a TUV certification was good for the US, but we all know that it is not and Festool now has to get UL certification for the US and whatever other regulatory hurdles they have to jump through.

Personally, I would love to get my hands on the 18V hammer drill, I am so ready to retire the Milwaukee V28 I am currently using.

Derek

 

[AlexThePalex]

but I will still continue to be a very vocal thorn in Festool's side over why so much stuff is NAINA and why it takes so #&*@% long to get here!!!

[big grin]

That's not bad at all, but please, just don't act too much like the boy who can't wait for his christmas presents. As hilld said, it has to do with production capacity and Festool is not big enough to cater to the entire world at once.

Wanna help them? Buy all their stuff, lots of it. And get all your friends to buy it too. Then Festool can expand and add a production facility in the States. They would love to have one.

Despite what you think about the NAINA issue, Festool is dying to conquer the American market, and if I have learned anything the past few years I was here on this forum, is that America gets a VERY preferential treatment from Festool. Prices are kept a lot lower for you compared to the rest of the world, and that fabled service you get from Festool, well, wait until you find out how it is here in Europe. You wouldn't be so pleased anymore. There's no Shane here who responds in milliseconds after you posted on the FOG. Get used to sending 4 emails before you get an answer and still have a 50% chance it's the wrong one.

 

[PreferrablyWood]

I think the wait for the Festool tools in the US is also very unfortunate, it would be so great if we all could get on stream at the same time with new tools as the knowledge base would increase exponentially, it' seems there are so many creative people in the US that really stretch the capabilities of the tools and love to tell about it, so yes I have access to the new Festools sooner than the N.Americas but I'm not smug about it no no no...

 

[Frank-Jan]

491923 Telescopic Drawer, SYS-PORT/TA/2 

Yes, at $125 each USD (ouch!)

There's also an in-between solution: the metal drawer for the tanos tresor: link

 

[Healeyjet]

Jonny, have you had a chance to install these yet?  Do you have an updated impression?
Ward

 

[jonny round boy]

I got these drawers with the intention of doing a review, as I had a couple of spare days at the time. Unfortunately something came up & I never got the review done. The drawers are still sitting in the boxes...

Now it's been announced that these will be available in the US on 1st December, I'm going to try and find an opportunity to do a full review before then. I've had a couple of PM's asking for more info too.

 

[sl_1800]

Johnny can you tell us the exact dimension of the drawers?  I don't believe what I see on the web sites.

 

[GarryMartin]

The drawers sizes are spot on - 426mm wide x 373mm deep x 57 mm high. The SYSTAINER drops into an approximately 400mm x 300mm "hole". The manual is available online - https://www.festoolusa.com/media/pdf/706994_002_MonAnl_SYS-AZ_Auszug%20.pdf and contains details for building cabinets to house them.

Which measurement did you think was wrong? If it's the depth, it's probably because the 350mm slides extend beyond the outer dimensions of the plastic tray.

 

[sl_1800]

Thanks Garry, the sites here in the US that have them available for pre-sale state them as 396mm x 396mm.  I knew that had to be wrong.

 

[jonathan-m]

What I dislike about the drawers, and also the metal sysports, is that the slides don't pull out far enough to fully have the lid of a systainer open.

 

[tbellemare]

What I dislike about the drawers, and also the metal sysports, is that the slides don't pull out far enough to fully have the lid of a systainer open.

Mine do.

Classic:

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T-Loc

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Tom

EDIT: Added images

 

[jonathan-m]

To clarify what I mean is that the lid and or locking knob still "slam" for lack of a better word, against other systainers/sysport. It would've been nicer if they pulled out further for a few more cm so that doesn't happen.