Kreg Adaptive Cut System

[Steverino]

I'm going to wake this old thread up again because there are a few things that were said that have always bugged me.

I guess I spoke too soon.  They covered the parallel guides too.  The Kreg Saw has a splinter guard, a riving knife, and a dust bag.  The only potential weakness I can see is the 1200 W motor. 

The Kreg has a 1400 watt motor, it's the Festool with the 1200 watt motor.

It looks like Kreg paid very close attention to a lot of people’s complaints about other saws.  They also put wheels on the table and made the table a decent size at 62 inches.  That’s more than enough for most projects.

That length was to be able to make 48" cuts on the table, the big table is heavy so the wheels are great when moving it around.

It would have been nice to see a cordless offering.

That would have put it beyond the $1000 mark for the whole package, and who would buy into a one tool only battery system?

... to compensate for the inadequacy of a tracksaw.

I wonder what he meant by that?

The Kreg saw as seen in the video also requires a large footprint, as large as a cabinet saw, to do the ripping tasks demonstrated.

I don't think so. To rip a sheet of plywood on a cabinet saw requires a space at least 6' x 19', if not more, with any track saw it requires about 6' x 9' or so.

I had a gut feeling.  Not using 20 mm dogs eliminates of very cool accessories on the market.

Take all the 20mm pegs to a machine shop and have them turned down to 3/4"

I’m not a fan of all of the plastic used on accessories like the miter gauge either.

More aluminum would raise the price for the target audience.

Kreg needs a higher end cordless Plunge Saw option.  The rebadged Grizzly Track Saw isn’t really a huge selling point.  You get a passable 1200 W track saw with a really nice table set-up which might be okay for plywood cuts.  I can’t see this performing as well with 1 1/2 inch hardwood cuts.

This is not a rebadged Grizzly or Shop Fox (which ARE the same as each other), and again it's 1400 W.

Kreg did a great job on the table.  It’s very puzzling why Kreg decided not to use the 20 mm standard for the PARF holes to maximize compatibility with a large number of accessories.

It's not the least bit puzzling, all of Kreg's other work tables and horses use 3/4", which was around decades before anybody knew what 20mm was. I have an old holdfast that works in 3/4, all dogs used to be for 3/4, that was the standard.

 

[Bob D.]

"It's not the least bit puzzling, all of Kreg's other work tables and horses use 3/4", which was around decades before anybody knew what 20mm was. I have an old holdfast that works in 3/4, all dogs used to be for 3/4, that was the standard."

I don't know about that. Was Kreg around in 1971 when the Workmate first appeared?
The Workmate has 20mm dog holes and always has since it's inception.

I have one of the 1st generation Workmates and it has 20mm dog holes, so I'm not
depending on secondhand information.

 

[Svar]

I don't know about that. Was Kreg around in 1971 when the Workmate first appeared?
The Workmate has 20mm dog holes and always has since it's inception.
I have one of the 1st generation Workmates and it has 20mm dog holes, so I'm not
depending on secondhand information.

Workmate originates in the UK, invented by an automotive engineer, perhaps that's why 20 mm.

 

[Steverino]

"It's not the least bit puzzling, all of Kreg's other work tables and horses use 3/4", which was around decades before anybody knew what 20mm was. I have an old holdfast that works in 3/4, all dogs used to be for 3/4, that was the standard."

I don't know about that. Was Kreg around in 1971 when the Workmate first appeared?
The Workmate has 20mm dog holes and always has since it's inception.

I have one of the 1st generation Workmates and it has 20mm dog holes, so I'm not
depending on secondhand information.

I just went out and measured my WM200, close enough to call it 20mm. But we're talking about the fact that Kreg used 3/4 because all the rest of their stuff uses 3/4". It was an easy decision for them as a company. As for the initial use of that size, it was so common as to be the de-facto "standard" at the time in the U.S.

 

[Bob D.]

"It's not the least bit puzzling, all of Kreg's other work tables and horses use 3/4", which was around decades before anybody knew what 20mm was. I have an old holdfast that works in 3/4, all dogs used to be for 3/4, that was the standard."

I don't know about that. Was Kreg around in 1971 when the Workmate first appeared?
The Workmate has 20mm dog holes and always has since it's inception.

I have one of the 1st generation Workmates and it has 20mm dog holes, so I'm not
depending on secondhand information.

I just went out and measured my WM200, close enough to call it 20mm. But we're talking about the fact that Kreg used 3/4 because all the rest of their stuff uses 3/4". It was an easy decision for them as a company. As for the initial use of that size, it was so common as to be the de-facto "standard" at the time in the U.S.

That's a little different than where you started at but OK. Sure it makes sense for them to standardize with the rest of their equipment. I don't argue that at all. But I wonder how many of their accessories they would have sold IF they were 20mm.
Same as Apple and IBM back in the beginning. They went their separate ways and the feud continues to this day, you're in one camp or the other, and BOTH camps are missing out.

"It's not the least bit puzzling, all of Kreg's other work tables and horses use 3/4", which was around decades before anybody knew what 20mm was. I have an old holdfast that works in 3/4, all dogs used to be for 3/4, that was the standard."

 

[Packard]

I would be most interested if the Kreg Parallel guide can be mounted to the Festool track and how it would be calibrated.  It looks very handy.  It is $99.00 for a pair and it looks like it could remain on the track at all times.