Let's talk about saw blades...

[TENRYU AMERICA]

What about the 75?

Any idea when you will have blades for it?

Thanks

Scott W.

Hello Scott

I'll keep you posted on the TS-75.

Thanks

Iain

 

[TENRYU AMERICA]

I'd love to have some feedback on these blades.  I'm particularly interested due to all but the last one having the same kerf.  I'd love to be able to use the same guide rail setup for all of my blades.  I think Festool dropped the ball on this aspect of their "system"

Hello Garry

A few other members on this board indicated that a similar kerf through the blade line would be preferable.  It should hopefully help with the splinter guards etc.

Thanks

Iain

 

[Kevin Johnson]

I looked at your PDF and noticed that all had the same kerf width except one.  Does that mean that finally I will be able to switch blades without tearing up my rail's rubber strip?

 

[TENRYU AMERICA]

I looked at your PDF and noticed that all had the same kerf width except one.  Does that mean that finally I will be able to switch blades without tearing up my rail's rubber strip?

Hello Kevin, Yes that is correct. Hopefully we can save some splinter guards also.
Thanks
Iain

 

[TENRYU AMERICA]

It would be nice to have a good rip blade, a good combo blade and a good fine finishing crosscut blade for the TS 75 - all with the same size kerf.  I don't care if the kerfs are a little different than Festool's kerfs (that is plural), just so long as Tenryu blades all had the same kerf.

I agree with this 100% - except I have a 55.  Keep the same kerf size for a variety of quality 55 blades and you'll have me as a customer.

Hello Chris, in case you have not checked the PDF file but we were able to maintain the same kerf across the blades (One additional thin kerf blade is different)
Thanks
Iain

 

[Chris Billman]

Great.  Is anyone who's tried these things willing to post some comments on their performance?

 

[peter halle]

When will these blades hit the market and thru whom will they be available?

Peter

 

[sw1211]

When will these blades hit the market and thru whom will they be available?

Peter

The PDF doc above said by end of Oct they will be available.  I'm sure one vendor will be,http://www.prosawblades.com/products.php?cat=32.  Google should be able to find other Tenryu dealers.

 

[peter halle]

My apologies,

I normally read and comprehend - I messed up.  Thanks for setting me along the correct path.

Peter

 

[Steve Jones]

I have used one of the new Tenryu blades for a couple of projects and went into this experiment with poor expectations, I am familiar with Tenryu's excellent products but did not expect anyone to be able to improve on Festools blades.

The following is an excerpt from my post before receiving the test blade:

... I too use your excellent blades in rotation on table, miter, and radial arm saws, and am very pleased with them.

But like per, I suspect you'll have a hard time competing with the standard blades supplied with the TS55, I spend my days mostly cutting 3/4 domestic ply with the TS55 and a new blade lasts me about a month (which is WAY more mileage than I'm getting from other blades on other saws -yours included, I'm afraid)....

I have put quite a few hundred yards on the Tenryu, alternating with a new Festool blade (I switched back and fourth regularly to compare cut and wear as accurately as possible).

The blade I received was the 160 x 28 tooth combination blade. It has laser cuts and has all the appearance of a premium quality blade,

Plywood: The Tenryu cuts every bit as well and cleanly as the Festool blade

Rips in Maple: I had given up on using the Panther blade from Festool since the cut is so rough and needs so much cleaning up, this new Tenryu blade is  what the Panther should have been, it uses the same kerf as the other blades in the set, so it doesn't eat the edge off the splinter strip. it cuts cleanly and smoothly and leaves a clean, perfect edge which I don't have to sand to form a joint or use as a face or door frame.

Life: The Tenryu blade held up fine, even  on the hard maple, I did eventually wear it out due to the large amount of plywood I cut with it, it didn't last quite as long as the Festool blade but that was to be expected because the Tenryu I was testing was a general purpose 28 tooth blade not intended for miles of hardwood plywood.

Conclusion: I would not hesitate to purchase this blade in future, in fact as soon as these are available I will use dedicated (Fine and Rip) blades in the shop, and have one of these general purpose blades for installations (since I may end up cutting anything on site, It's good enough for either job that I would put this blade on the saw for any on-site work).

I understand that these blades will be cheaper than the Festool equivalents, If the rest of the set is as well made as the sample I received (which I fully believe them to be) I will be using these blades instead of the Festool ones from now on. I'll go further, I'd use these blades if they were more expensive than the Festools.

There will be some disbelievers out there who are stuck in the "Festool is fantastic" mode and will not purchase the Tenryu blades - for them I have the following offer:

For Sale: Festool blades, clean, used, in the original packages, will be supplied freshly sharpened and cleaned, each blade will sell for the price of the equivalent blade from Tenryu plus shipping.

I have 6 of the 495-377 fine tooth (used to be 491-952)
1 Panther (used on two cuts)
1 Solid surface blade (don't have to number to hand)

 

[TENRYU AMERICA]

When will these blades hit the market and thru whom will they be available?

Peter

The PDF doc above said by end of Oct they will be available.  I'm sure one vendor will be,http://www.prosawblades.com/products.php?cat=32.  Google should be able to find other Tenryu dealers.

Hello
Yes prosawblades.com will have the blades available, but they will also become available through all of our dealers over the next month or so.

 

[Dave Ronyak]

It would be nice to have a good rip blade, a good combo blade and a good fine finishing crosscut blade for the TS 75 - all with the same size kerf.  I don't care if the kerfs are a little different than Festool's kerfs (that is plural), just so long as Tenryu blades all had the same kerf.

I agree with this 100% - except I have a 55.  Keep the same kerf size for a variety of quality 55 blades and you'll have me as a customer.

I second the above.  I have a TS 55.  Please give us a ripping blade that has the same kerf as the 28 and 48 tooth blades from Festool.  Resetting or replacing the rubber strip of the Guide Rails when changing blades is highly inefficient!!

I have a Tenyru 10" Gold Medal series combination blade on my table saw.  The cut quality is at least as good as my TS 55 with Guide Rail with Festool's 48 tooth blade (Item No. 491952).  I work mostly with oak, cherry and walnut, a little mahogany and lace wood, and birch plywood.

I, too, am seeking a quality sharpening service in NE Ohio area.

Dave R.

 

[josephgewing]

In comparison tests cutting cross grain on baltic birch, the high-tooth-count Kapex saw blade was equal to but not better than the Forest Chopmaster.  Both were in the good to excellent range.
Luan ply is more prone to splintering but I did not test these two blades with Luan.

I don't know anything about a Tenryu equivalent blade but would be glad to test it if anybody wanted to send me one. >

Joe Ewing
Las Cruces, NM

 

[TENRYU AMERICA]

It would be nice to have a good rip blade, a good combo blade and a good fine finishing crosscut blade for the TS 75 - all with the same size kerf.  I don't care if the kerfs are a little different than Festool's kerfs (that is plural), just so long as Tenryu blades all had the same kerf.

I agree with this 100% - except I have a 55.  Keep the same kerf size for a variety of quality 55 blades and you'll have me as a customer.

I second the above.  I have a TS 55.  Please give us a ripping blade that has the same kerf as the 28 and 48 tooth blades from Festool.  Resetting or replacing the rubber strip of the Guide Rails when changing blades is highly inefficient!!

I have a Tenyru 10" Gold Medal series combination blade on my table saw.   The cut quality is at least as good as my TS 55 with Guide Rail with Festool's 48 tooth blade (Item No. 491952).  I work mostly with oak, cherry and walnut, a little mahogany and lace wood, and birch plywood.

I, too, am seeking a quality sharpening service in NE Ohio area.

Dave R.

Hello Dave, Thanks for the note. Yes our TS-55 blades have the same kerf across the line up. Ripping blade =.087 28T Combination =.087 48T Finish =.087 The only exception is the super finish blade which is .063 and ships with its own riving knife.
Iain

 

[Dave Ronyak]

Thanks, Iain.  Maybe I can pick one up or order one from the Tenyru representative at the next "tool fair" at Hartville Tool (Hartville, OH).  I have quantities of rough KD poplar, oak and mahogany virgin that need to be ripped, a virgin Panther blade and a 3000mm Guide Rail.  I have used that Guide Rail only with my Festool 48 tooth blade and would be delighted to try a ripping blade having the same kerf width. 

One thing I have noted is that use of a Festool 28 tooth general purpose blade on the same TS 55 on the same Guide Rail results in carving away more of the rubber strip than was cut away using a Festool 48 tooth Fine Cut blade on the same saw.  This has proven true for me even when both blades are brand new and show no signs of damage in shipping.  Annoying to saw the least.  Makes it a bit tricky to judge where the actual cut line will be unless you replace or reposition the rubber strip each time you swap out a blade.  I prefer to use Festool's 28 tooth blade for most work other than fine cabinetry.

Dave R.

 

[John Stevens]

Yes our TS-55 blades have the same kerf across the line up. Ripping blade =.087 28T Combination =.087 48T Finish =.087 The only exception is the super finish blade which is .063 and ships with its own riving knife.

Hi, Iain.  Is the Tenryu ripping blade thicker than the Festool "fine" blade?

Also, I'd be very interested in "low noise" versions of a rip blade for hardwoods and a "fine" blade for use on crosscuts in hardwoods and general cutting of cabinet-quality ply.  Here's a link to what I'm thinking of (page is written in English):

http://www.hvbg.de/e/bia/pra/saegeblaetter/

Thanks for your consideration.

Regards,

John

 

[TENRYU AMERICA]

Thanks, Iain.  Maybe I can pick one up or order one from the Tenyru representative at the next "tool fair" at Hartville Tool (Hartville, OH).  I have quantities of rough KD poplar, oak and mahogany virgin that need to be ripped, a virgin Panther blade and a 3000mm Guide Rail.  I have used that Guide Rail only with my Festool 48 tooth blade and would be delighted to try a ripping blade having the same kerf width. 

One thing I have noted is that use of a Festool 28 tooth general purpose blade on the same TS 55 on the same Guide Rail results in carving away more of the rubber strip than was cut away using a Festool 48 tooth Fine Cut blade on the same saw.  This has proven true for me even when both blades are brand new and show no signs of damage in shipping.  Annoying to saw the least.  Makes it a bit tricky to judge where the actual cut line will be unless you replace or reposition the rubber strip each time you swap out a blade.  I prefer to use Festool's 28 tooth blade for most work other than fine cabinetry.

Dave R.

Hello Dave

Thank you for the note, I am scheduled to be at Hartville also. Hopefully we can meet up.

Iain

 

[TENRYU AMERICA]

Yes our TS-55 blades have the same kerf across the line up. Ripping blade =.087 28T Combination =.087 48T Finish =.087 The only exception is the super finish blade which is .063 and ships with its own riving knife.

Hi, Iain.  Is the Tenryu ripping blade thicker than the Festool "fine" blade?

Also, I'd be very interested in "low noise" versions of a rip blade for hardwoods and a "fine" blade for use on crosscuts in hardwoods and general cutting of cabinet-quality ply.  Here's a link to what I'm thinking of (page is written in English):

http://www.hvbg.de/e/bia/pra/saegeblaetter/

Thanks for your consideration.

Regards,

John

Hello John

The FESTOOL fine wood blade has a kerf of 2.5mm our ripping blade has a 2.2mm kerf (same for all of our blades). In response to your noise question all of our blades come with laser cut resin filled anti-noise slots (The article mentions this type of noise reduction).

Thanks
Iain

 

[rnt80]

I ordered one of the combo blades for my 55 a week and a half ago and just found out today that they haven't been released yet .  No bueno.  I was hoping to have this thing by this week but the gentleman at Prosawblades.com told me that they are expecting them next week at the earliest.  I like the idea of the same kerf on all the blades but I'm not sure I can wait another 2 weeks to get this thing.  Should I just cancel and go with the Festool blade?

 

[TENRYU AMERICA]

I ordered one of the combo blades for my 55 a week and a half ago and just found out today that they haven't been released yet .  No bueno.  I was hoping to have this thing by this week but the gentleman at Prosawblades.com told me that they are expecting them next week at the earliest.  I like the idea of the same kerf on all the blades but I'm not sure I can wait another 2 weeks to get this thing.  Should I just cancel and go with the Festool blade?

Hello
Sorry for the delay, it is my fault and not prosawblades.com I gave them an incorrect arrival date. The 28T Combo blade should be available to ship out tomorrow. I will work with prosawblades.com to make sure the blade is sent immediately.
Thank you for the business, I apologize for the delay
Iain Goodridge