Long extrusion profile for mft/3?

[magellan]

Fellows
I've been watching your post here and find it interesting  I've never purchase a MFT because they did not suit me because of the small size.  The 2 meter rails do interest me.  Let me ask this,  are the corner parts and legs available separately? 

I'm thinking of buying 3 rails and cutting one in half and then build a table 2 meters by 1 meter if the corners and legs are available

I can then CNC a top to fit.  That to me is a table top I feel I can work with.    I recently made a top similar to the Rise Costruction video that turned out pretty nice.  It is 55.5 x40 and I wish it were longer.  40 inches wide works for me but I would like it longer. 
 

Thank you for the information

 

[Scorpion]

Fellows
I've been watching your post here and find it interesting  I've never purchase a MFT because they did not suit me because of the small size.  The 2 meter rails do interest me.  Let me ask this,  are the corner parts and legs available separately? 

I'm thinking of buying 3 rails and cutting one in half and then build a table 2 meters by 1 meter if the corners and legs are available

I can then CNC a top to fit.  That to me is a table top I feel I can work with.    I recently made a top similar to the Rise Costruction video that turned out pretty nice.  It is 55.5 x40 and I wish it were longer.  40 inches wide works for me but I would like it longer. 
 

Thank you for the information

All of the parts are substantially more expensive individually than when buying the table complete though you can get every single part al la carte so it's possible.  My plan was to purchase a full table, save its top as a secondary for my other MFT, replace the short rails with the long ones, and make a larger top.  I believe that's the cheapest path though I have not priced all of the individual parts yet to validate that statement is factually correct.

Matt

 

[Thistleman]

I am in the process of making a large MFT style top to sit on some cabinets and use as a work bench. It was significantly cheaper to buy an MFT Kapex and cannibalise it for parts than buying the components individually. I am using the long sides of the MFT Kapex and a pair of the 2m extrusions, this will give me a work surface approximately 2x0.9m.

I think that the 2m extrusions are only sold in pairs

 

[Cheese]

It was significantly cheaper to buy an MFT Kapex and cannibalise it for parts than buying the components individually.

All of the parts are substantially more expensive individually than when buying the table complete though you can get every single part al la carte so it's possible. 

Great idea, I'll be looking into this option also, always thought an MFT was always too short for my needs and purchasing 2 of them was too expensive for a DIY guy.

 

[demographic]

What do these profiles look like?  Anything like stuff from the 80/20 range?
There's a hell of a lot to choose from.
Small selection.

 

[Scorpion]

What do these profiles look like?  Anything like stuff from the 80/20 range?
There's a heck of a lot to choose from.
Small selection.

Nothing close unfortunately...

 

[Kev]

All of the parts are substantially more expensive individually than when buying the table complete though you can get every single part al la carte so it's possible.  My plan was to purchase a full table, save its top as a secondary for my other MFT, replace the short rails with the long ones, and make a larger top.  I believe that's the cheapest path though I have not priced all of the individual parts yet to validate that statement is factually correct.

Matt

I'd like to see that table! I assume you've been through the thinking of just connecting a pair of MFT/3's ...

 

[rst]

Just for reference the 8020 15 series extrusions will accept the Festool clamps and will hang on the edge of the MFT extrusions.

 

[Scorpion]

I'd like to see that table! I assume you've been through the thinking of just connecting a pair of MFT/3's ...

I have.  Originally I was considering just buying a second and joining the two but what I really want is one longer & wider table for cutting sheet goods and a normal table for all other stuff.  To accomplish this setup, I'd need to buy 2 more tables.  I view the longer extrusions and buying only one more table as saving money - about $200 or so.

That's how I'm justifying it internally anyway.

 

[Kev]

I'd like to see that table! I assume you've been through the thinking of just connecting a pair of MFT/3's ...

I have.  Originally I was considering just buying a second and joining the two but what I really want is one longer & wider table for cutting sheet goods and a normal table for all other stuff.  To accomplish this setup, I'd need to buy 2 more tables.  I view the longer extrusions and buying only one more table as saving money - about $200 or so.

That's how I'm justifying it internally anyway.

Ah yes - the secret squirrel justification algorithm ... mine gives me exactly the result I was hoping for too [big grin] [wink]

 

[Latech15]

Just for reference the 8020 15 series extrusions will accept the Festool clamps and will hang on the edge of the MFT extrusions.

How are you hanging the extrusion onto the mft? And for what purpose?

 

[Scorpion]

Just for reference the 8020 15 series extrusions will accept the Festool clamps and will hang on the edge of the MFT extrusions.

How are you hanging the extrusion onto the mft? And for what purpose?

Some have augmented their MFT by leveraging how an 8020 15-series extrusion can interlock (maybe not the best word) with a rail on the MFT.

See the thread here -http://festoolownersgroup.com/festool-jigs-tool-enhancements/mft3-router-table-attacment/

 

[Scorpion]

Update:  when attempting to pay for the extrusions the credit card transaction was declined.  My CC company thought the over seas transaction was fraudulent and blocked my card. 

So if you're planning on doing the same thing, you may encounter a hurdle in the home stretch.

 

[Cheese]

FWIW...I went through the numbers last evening and purchasing all of the individual items needed for the MFT, minus the top (495543) and the 2 short 30" profiles (472862) add up to $520. A stock MFT is priced at $560.

So, if a person could off-load the extra top and the 2 profiles for around $120, purchasing a complete MFT may well be the wisest choice. I think the top would sell fast, not too sure about the shorty profiles.  [unsure]

The top goes for $133 and each short profile is $50.

 

[Scorpion]

FWIW...I went through the numbers last evening and purchasing all of the individual items needed for the MFT, minus the top (495543) and the 2 short 30" profiles (472862) add up to $520. A stock MFT is priced at $560.

So, if a person could off-load the extra top and the 2 profiles for around $120, purchasing a complete MFT may well be the wisest choice. I think the top would sell fast, not too sure about the shorty profiles.  [unsure]

The top goes for $133 and each short profile is $50.

Few thoughts then regarding uses for the left over parts and why someone might want to buy them -

Has anyone tried to combine 8020 extrusions with festool extrusions to make a table? 

OR

Two shorties together should be longer than a normal tables long rail of two were connected end to end.  Someone could make a slightly longer table by buying 3 sets of shorties.

OR

someone could make a table that's square (four shorties) for something like a Kapex

All of this only works if the buyer happens to be close enough to the seller to pick them up.  If they'd have to pay shipping on the extrusions, it would be cheaper to buy them from the store at $50 a piece.

 

[magellan]

Hello all,

Question for you all about using 80/20 material.  The world of 80/20 is pretty amazing or I might say confusing with all that can be accomplished with this material.  Are there parts that can be used to make a set of foldable legs when using 80/20? 

Just looking at other options for building a larger table that can be knocked down.  I know I won't be able to use the track system if I pursue the 80/20 route but I would like to see if this is a viable option.  I now use a 55" track and long precision dogs, mostly I'd lose the ability to use the angle protractor.  Currently I have neither because I do not have an MFT. 

Another thought that came to mind is the use of the Festool quick clamps to use with the 80/20 material.  Does anyone know which 80/20 track is acceptable to their use? 

I've never used 80/20 but have seen it for years in so many fields for so many uses.  I'm looking to get ideas from the brain trust here on this site to shorten my research of this material.    The size table I'm thinking of building is 40" x  80" or in that area.  I'm currently using a newly built Rise Construction CNC top that I'm finding a lot of uses for but would like to go larger.

Thank you reading
Ben

 

[Scorpion]

Hello all,

Question for you all about using 80/20 material.  The world of 80/20 is pretty amazing or I might say confusing with all that can be accomplished with this material.  Are there parts that can be used to make a set of foldable legs when using 80/20? 

Just looking at other options for building a larger table that can be knocked down.  I know I won't be able to use the track system if I pursue the 80/20 route but I would like to see if this is a viable option.  I now use a 55" track and long precision dogs, mostly I'd lose the ability to use the angle protractor.  Currently I have neither because I do not have an MFT. 

Another thought that came to mind is the use of the Festool quick clamps to use with the 80/20 material.  Does anyone know which 80/20 track is acceptable to their use? 

I've never used 80/20 but have seen it for years in so many fields for so many uses.  I'm looking to get ideas from the brain trust here on this site to shorten my research of this material.    The size table I'm thinking of building is 40" x  80" or in that area.  I'm currently using a newly built Rise Construction CNC top that I'm finding a lot of uses for but would like to go larger.

Thank you reading
Ben

I built my 80/20 using a set of what they call a pivot nub.  Here's an eBay link to a complete assembly -https://www.ebay.com/ulk/itm/191558006154

Here's a picture of the assembly on my table.

Here's a link to many more pictures that show the table assembly -http://www.3amcook.com/Blog.aspx?cat=Woodworking&page=26

 

[magellan]

Scorpion,

Now that is pretty much what i'm looking for (it's exactly what I'm looking for)  I have to say that I'm at a bit of a disadvantage due to not having a machine shop handy.  Nice to have a milling machine isn't it? 

1) Do you think that it may be possible to accomplish the table you built with parts that 80/20 sells? 
2) How is it for stability?  is it stable?  Does it wobble at all? 
3) Now that you have had it for awhile is there anything you might do differently? 

As I believe I mentioned somewhere in this post I"m looking to build a 80"x 40" one @ 30" high.  Most everything I know is 36" but I currently have a set up that I like using for building at 30" and it works nicely.  I don't believe I'll do the torsion box like you did but it is a consideration for storing parts as you work plus a place to temporarily store the rail when not in use. 

I asked this before and I was not able to find an answer.  Do the Festool clamps work with the 80/20 rails that you used?

You do nice work buddy,  Also if you would please let us know about the 2 meter rails when they arrive and you build your Large MFT.

Thank you for your guidance

 

[dltflt]

I believe they do.

 

[rvieceli]

[member=10212]magellan[/member] the 15 series (imperial) and the 40 series (metric) 80/20 extrusions will take the Festool clamps.