phmade said:
Thanks for the suggestions. I will likely be attending IWF, but unfortunately I think I'll need the saw before then. I will be evaluating new edgebanders at IWF though...
I looked at the Felder / Hammer machines and I think the Hammer equipment is too light duty for me. I plan to call them today and get their opinion. I'm also strongly considering a new SCM machine because of a local dealer and their support. I've never heard anything bad about a Martin but I would imagine they're out of my price range. I have been looking in the 8-13k price range.
Does anyone know any machines that I should steer clear of? I had looked at some Grizzly equipment but I've heard plenty of negative reviews on their quality control. I own a couple of Grizzly machines now and they seem ok for non-precision equipment but not for a slider.
In 2007 I also imagined that Martin was out of my price range. I went to the AWFS to compare the various machines and made a startling discovery, the machine that fit my needs was considerably less (~$8K less) than a less equipped Altendorf and slightly less (~$1K) than a similarly equipped Felder Format 4 machine. It doesn't hurt to check. I know the entry level Martins are made by Griggio now and the price may very well surprise you. That said, local dealer support with the SCM may be the most important factor for you.
From what you describe, I think your assessment of the Hammer is correct. For your application, the minimum I would go with in the Felder lineup is the 700 series machines.
Having previous experiences on several forums, I will keep my experiences and opinions of the G-code machines to myself. Let's just say it looks like your experience with them appears much better than mine.
Whatever brand you choose, I will offer up some things to consider regarding the sliding table;
1) Table length - comparing sliding table length between saws is not necessarily an apples to apples comparison. What you want to consider is what length you can straight -line using scoring with your table. My Martin has a 3300 mm table and it can straight-line a 3300mm sheet or timber based on where the table travel starts and ends. Some brands will not straight line the entire length of their table so make sure you get a length that will satisfy your needs.
2) Table locking positions. This is important when loading sheet stock on to your table and you don't want the slider moving around when you push the stock up against the slider fence. Some brands have only 2 locking positions while others have many more. Note - this is primarily a convenience factor when sizing sheet goods. If you only have 2 locking positions, it requires full retraction of the table for locking. With the ability to lock the table anywhere, your choices are greatly expanded.
3) Evaluate the position of the start/stop switches when your sheet goods are loaded on the table. Can you reach them or do you need 2 meter long rubber arms to start/stop the saw. Based on my experience, availability of remote start/stop switches on the sliding table is a big plus.
Hope this helps
