LR32 & True 32?

[darita]

Just got my LR32 and was watching a set up vid on youtube, referring to the "true 32" cabinet system.  What is it and how does it apply to the LR32?  I'm not a cabinet maker by trade, so please, pardon my ignorance, but this is the first time I've heard of this.  Is this system applicable to someone like me, who doesn't build cabinets for a living?  If I don't use the True 32 system, what functions, if any, won't I be able to take advantage of in the LR32?

 

[mouppe]

Here are some pointers:-

http://davelers.com/32mm/Basics/157.html

http://www.festoolusa.com/media/pdf/32mm_system_and_the_festool_hole_guide.pdf

http://www.leevalley.com/US/hardware/page.aspx?p=42200&cat=3,44296

 

[tiralie]

Is this system applicable to someone like me, who doesn't build cabinets for a living?  If I don't use the True 32 system, what functions, if any, won't I be able to take advantage of in the LR32?

Along with Richards links above, I would recommend one of the best (plain english) guides I have ever read is this thread by a very gracious FOG member , OvertimeEuro-cabinets-101-2-a-beginner's-guide
If you want a very technical document Blum Process 32 boring guide should full fill your wildest dreams.
Tim

 

[fshanno]

The problem with Process 32 is that the bottom system hole is 46.5mm from the bottom of the side panels.  So the end stops that Festool supplies with the LR32 won't work.

 

[DrD]

Good Evening darita,

I'm in kinda of the same boat, except that I have the LR32 - bought it for reasons not related to cabinets.  As I get to using it, I may start making some cabinets.  There is so much I don't know, and will learn by using the system.  Biggest prob I have is understanding what the graduations on the side stops really mean, and understanding how to use them to meet my needs - like building MFT/3 table tops.

Have a good evening.

DrD

 

[Brice Burrell]

The problem with Process 32 is that the bottom system hole is 46.5mm from the bottom of the side panels.  So the end stops that Festool supplies with the LR32 won't work.

I've designed a new adjustable end stop for the LR32 that should fix this problem.  It's being looked at by a small manufacture now. 

 

[DrD]

Brice, I really appreciate your articles on the various Festools.  Do you have any specifics you can share on your rendition of the side stop?

DrD

 

[Brice Burrell]

Brice, I really appreciate your articles on the various Festools.  Do you have any specifics you can share on your rendition of the side stop?

DrD

There's no patent involved but I don't want to say too much so someone doesn't copy the idea before the manufacture gets a crack at it.  What I will say is that it's a stop that adjusts so you get any offset you want.  It's won't do half millimeter but you don't really need to worry about that half mm in the 32mm systems.     

 

[DrD]

Ok, Brice, thanks for the heads-up.  I'll be looking out of it.

DrD

 

[fshanno]

Brice, I really appreciate your articles on the various Festools.  Do you have any specifics you can share on your rendition of the side stop?

DrD

There's no patent involved but I don't want to say too much so someone doesn't copy the idea before the manufacture gets a crack at it.  What I will say is that it's a stop that adjusts so you get any offset you want.  It's won't do half millimeter but you don't really need to worry about that half mm in the 32mm systems.       

That sounds great. 

There is one thing.  Something about my LR32 was out of whack right out of the box.  My sled is roughly but not exactly 1 millimeter off.  Referencing the same end of a cabinet side and flipping the rail around  to do the two columns of system holes the holes are about a 1mm off vertially.  Set it up a million times.  Re-centered the router a million times.  Always get that consistent 1mm .  Not a problem for me because I never use the Festool linear stops anyway.  I made a couple of stops built to give me 46.5mm to the first hole as per Process32.  I just compensated for the error in my stops by making one a little longer than the other.  I have the stops and the holy rail labeled.

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Anyway, I have a suggestion.  Put a setup micro adjust on your aftermarket linear stop.  It would be nice for me anyway. 

Notice the long rod on my homemade setup.  I like to reference all hole columns from the front face of the case. 

 

[jofuss55]

true 32 refers to the European 32mm standard for cabinetry. The carcasses are , in length, height and width all based on a multiple of 32mm. This allows you to accurately plan hinge location and drawer glide positions and drill those holes using the LR32. If you don't use a true 32  system it's no big deal, just a little extra math and thought.