PreferrablyWood
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I do a lot of music on my iMac 2011, following along on the cutting edge of technology is very expensive, very expensive..So I've almost always toying with the idea to upgrade my Computer, but it's such a pain in the butr, you buy the latest and the greatest expecting double the performance for double the money, but I can tell you it's just not necessarily so..
Festool on the other hand, it seems mostly everything I'm interested in getting this time out has been out since 2011, the prices of the gear don't move hold a stable level, interesting observation. Especially in the Deflationary times.. And if you pay double the money you very often get double the performance.. My list if I go the festool route is.
CMS GE OF 2200 set includes the router CMS GE table, router module, and thats all, no sliding table or vacuum attachment..
This is OLD tech, but still seems to be unbeatable the 2200 Router, the CMS concept, that tells me that at this level there is not as much competition, so development moves slowly, to me an interesting observation..somehow comforting..
This set is still BELOW the cost of the computer setup I was thinking of, that will likely be a slightly bad fit for my intended uses mac is heavy on graphics which aren't need for music, so at least some of the functionality will never be used..
The next thing to think about is the modularity of the CMS setup, things are made to fit together, this makes it easy to decide what you need to get, but I see at least some situations that the modularity of the CMS creates limitations, I think for example the breadth of the table is quite limited this due of course to the criteria of portability.. The add on side extension table seems rather expensive and doesn't get you that much of an improvement in size, but I can't see not getting it, especially as I intend to get the TS 75 insert for it.
The Mac Pro has lost it's modularity generally to have to add a disk array extra audio hardware, there's only usb, legacy firewire, or Thunderbolt.
These external solutions always end up being real expensive... closing in on the actual cost of the computer..
I think modularity is attractive when the modules fall into a price range that gives a balance between expandability and economics.. Whats the point of having a modular setup if the modules are more expensive than the core unit or a separate unit? In this case a server..
Both Mac and Festool have this modularity, but a least in the CMS setup the modules like the TS 75 is priced less than the Saw it self, the same goes for the jigsaw modules the router modules is about equal the OF 1400, The Beltsander module is more expensive than the standalone Festool Belt sanders and of course it's an integrated unit the only one in the series so that makes it hard to set value for usage, it's a beast and my thinking is that it is a real important piece of gear to have mounted in a table..On the other hand it's not flexible, but Im not in the market for a belt sander generally..
I'm trying to talk myself into going for the Festool gear now, there's a learning curve with these tools that I'm just beginning with so my thinking is to get as much of the setup that I'm envisioning while there's still time to learn it. Putting things off seems to me isn't an option..
My total bill will come in at somewhat less than I would have used on the high end Mac I was thinking of getting.. Though once the additional accessories are included it works out to be about the same..
I'd get the CMS GE, OF 2200 set, the TS module, the sliding table, the fence and a few router bits.
It's a lot of gear for the same price of one high end computer that frankly is probably going to be superseded by a more capable model in a year, if I can hold off upgrading for two years, I think it will be a wise move..
Generally my plan is to have 5 months of the year, doing woodworking projects, 2 months where I travel or just rest, and 5 months where I focus on my music gear.. I have steady practical but terribly mundane work that pays the bills for now..
Just a peak into my thinking and how I invest my time and money. I think the investment is about equal between Music and Carpentry , photography a close third...
Festool on the other hand, it seems mostly everything I'm interested in getting this time out has been out since 2011, the prices of the gear don't move hold a stable level, interesting observation. Especially in the Deflationary times.. And if you pay double the money you very often get double the performance.. My list if I go the festool route is.
CMS GE OF 2200 set includes the router CMS GE table, router module, and thats all, no sliding table or vacuum attachment..
This is OLD tech, but still seems to be unbeatable the 2200 Router, the CMS concept, that tells me that at this level there is not as much competition, so development moves slowly, to me an interesting observation..somehow comforting..
This set is still BELOW the cost of the computer setup I was thinking of, that will likely be a slightly bad fit for my intended uses mac is heavy on graphics which aren't need for music, so at least some of the functionality will never be used..
The next thing to think about is the modularity of the CMS setup, things are made to fit together, this makes it easy to decide what you need to get, but I see at least some situations that the modularity of the CMS creates limitations, I think for example the breadth of the table is quite limited this due of course to the criteria of portability.. The add on side extension table seems rather expensive and doesn't get you that much of an improvement in size, but I can't see not getting it, especially as I intend to get the TS 75 insert for it.
The Mac Pro has lost it's modularity generally to have to add a disk array extra audio hardware, there's only usb, legacy firewire, or Thunderbolt.
These external solutions always end up being real expensive... closing in on the actual cost of the computer..
I think modularity is attractive when the modules fall into a price range that gives a balance between expandability and economics.. Whats the point of having a modular setup if the modules are more expensive than the core unit or a separate unit? In this case a server..
Both Mac and Festool have this modularity, but a least in the CMS setup the modules like the TS 75 is priced less than the Saw it self, the same goes for the jigsaw modules the router modules is about equal the OF 1400, The Beltsander module is more expensive than the standalone Festool Belt sanders and of course it's an integrated unit the only one in the series so that makes it hard to set value for usage, it's a beast and my thinking is that it is a real important piece of gear to have mounted in a table..On the other hand it's not flexible, but Im not in the market for a belt sander generally..
I'm trying to talk myself into going for the Festool gear now, there's a learning curve with these tools that I'm just beginning with so my thinking is to get as much of the setup that I'm envisioning while there's still time to learn it. Putting things off seems to me isn't an option..
My total bill will come in at somewhat less than I would have used on the high end Mac I was thinking of getting.. Though once the additional accessories are included it works out to be about the same..
I'd get the CMS GE, OF 2200 set, the TS module, the sliding table, the fence and a few router bits.
It's a lot of gear for the same price of one high end computer that frankly is probably going to be superseded by a more capable model in a year, if I can hold off upgrading for two years, I think it will be a wise move..
Generally my plan is to have 5 months of the year, doing woodworking projects, 2 months where I travel or just rest, and 5 months where I focus on my music gear.. I have steady practical but terribly mundane work that pays the bills for now..
Just a peak into my thinking and how I invest my time and money. I think the investment is about equal between Music and Carpentry , photography a close third...
