MFT 3 ideas for small shop

If you have the CNC file you should Contact the guys at Vonmod -http://vonmod.com/ .  They have a huge CNC for a modest fee I'm sure they would crank one our for you in a material of your choosing.

I work for a GC in Denver and contract them frequently for custom work.  I recently picked up an MFT and it's already my plan to ask them to make me a new top when mine wears out as I don't feel it's worth my time to do it myself. 
 
I was wondering if anyone has made this out of the 8020 aluminum instead of using the festool hinge?  I ended up going with the UJK Technology Dog Rail Clips and Veritas SS Parf dogs for my Makita saw and Slab top.
I don't have any easy access to 8020.
 
tmm286 said:
If you have the CNC file you should Contact the guys at Vonmod -http://vonmod.com/ .  They have a huge CNC for a modest fee I'm sure they would crank one our for you in a material of your choosing.

This has been covered in other posts .. but just in case you don't have the .dxf files, you can get them via TSO Products for free.  TSO offers files for several different sizes of tops, while Seneca woodworking only has the MFT3 replacement top file.  Good luck.

Seneca woodworking MFT file

TSO Products MFT files
 
Thank you!  ;D I assumed they were floating around.  Appreciate the link though!  My current MFT top is taking a beating at the moment.  Still got the whole other side though.
 
Hal M said:
neilc said:
Great ideas!  Do you have part numbers or a link to the 80/20 linear unit you used?

The 8020 parts were:
Linear bearing 6424 (it came with several shims, maybe 20+. I used 4).https://8020.net/6424.html

Extrusion 1020 - cut to 9”https://8020.net/1020.html

I bought a couple of T-nuts. 25-3382https://8020.net/25-3382.html

I used a couple of 1/4-20 carriage bolts that I filed down to use to attach the linear bearing to the table with a couple of hex nuts. I need to order a T-nut and and maybe a couple of socket cap bolts to replace them. Would make it easier to remove the linear bearing from the table. I couldn’t find anything better locally.

Hope that helps.

[member=17453]Hal M[/member]  First of all, thank you for sharing how you built it.  I was curious if you ever updated this with the T-nut and socket cap bolts?  If so would you mind sharing how you did it and possible show a pic.
 
Actually I never ended up changing it. I have not taken the bearing off very often. I had actually forgotten that I was going to change them.
 
Part numbers for the Festool MFT rail hinge and front support and the MFT frame profiles, in case anybody is looking:
  • 497022 Support - front rail support
  • 497023 Support unit - rear rail support and hinge
  • 472862 Profile - MFT short (side) extrusion
  • 472862 Profile - MFT long (front and back) extrusion
 
dlu@canishe.com said:
Part numbers for the MFT rail supports and profiles, in case anybody is looking:
  • 497022 Support - front rail support
  • 497023 Support unit - rear rail support and hinge
  • 472862 Profile - MFT short (side) extrusion
  • 472862 Profile - MFT long (front and back) extrusion

You mean in addition to the ones from 8020?
 
thedevme said:
dlu@canishe.com said:
Part numbers for the MFT rail supports and profiles, in case anybody is looking:
  • 497022 Support - front rail support
  • 497023 Support unit - rear rail support and hinge
  • 472862 Profile - MFT short (side) extrusion
  • 472862 Profile - MFT long (front and back) extrusion

You mean in addition to the ones from 8020?

Yes - those are the Festool numbers for the hinge and front support for cross cutting on an MFT.
 
[member=17453]Hal M[/member] Thank you I got my parts and implemented with no issues even used socket cap bolts instead to make it easier to remove from the MFT table.
 
Hal
Great project, Impressive.
I'm not familiar with 80/20 are they comparable to MFT side tracks( T channels) ?
Can I buy the 2 Guide Rail support from festool and use it on 80/20 tracks.?
 
tmm286 said:
If you have the CNC file you should Contact the guys at Vonmod -http://vonmod.com/ .  They have a huge CNC for a modest fee I'm sure they would crank one our for you in a material of your choosing.

I work for a GC in Denver and contract them frequently for custom work.  I recently picked up an MFT and it's already my plan to ask them to make me a new top when mine wears out as I don't feel it's worth my time to do it myself.

Did you get in touch with Vonmod ?
I am also interested in getting MFT top .
 
Jack01 said:
Hal
Great project, Impressive.
I'm not familiar with 80/20 are they comparable to MFT side tracks( T channels) ?
Can I buy the 2 Guide Rail support from festool and use it on 80/20 tracks.?

By comparable, they are very sturdy and straight. They channels do not line up exactly but I have seen online where people make there own mft tables using 8020 extrusions. You can about build anything with them.

I am sure you can buy the guide support pieces from Festool.

Good luck.
 
The 8020 stuff is great for the structure, another option for linear guides and related stuff is IGUS.  Similar to the 8020 guides, the IGUS drylin linear rails have no moving parts and are good for dirty environments.https://www.igus.com/drylin/linear-guide.  Just providing the info in case folks don't know about them.
 
Another shoutout to Hal M for the great idea.  I just did the same thing to my custom 80/20 MFT and it's awesome.
 
Thanks. 

I did notice today that finally it seems to not slide up and down quite as easily as it used to. I think a tiny bit of dust got in it.  Pulled it out and blew it off and its back to just like new. 

Hope it works out well for you. 
 
Hal M said:
I have a small 8’x12’ shop in a shed.  I have used the MFT3 and TS55 as my primary saw.  I keep dust down with a Pro5 sander, a Trion Jigsaw and Domino. The  Festool system has allowed me to have a relatively dustless efficient space.  I made some changes to the MFT3.  I use the MFT as my primary workspace and need to have a clean space on the table and keep as much space left in my shop. 

First, I basically never use the protractor and wanted to both maximize my cutting space and keep the table pushed close to the back wall.  I ordered another fence clamp and use two clamps to hold the fence on the table.  I added a Kreg scale on the front, so I can use a flip stop for measurement. i set up using a carpenter’s square at exactly 12.5” on the flip stop of the fence and squaring up against some veritas dogs.  It squares the fence and gets it set for dimensioned for cutting.

Second, the current hinge mechanism was hard to open and lock from the front of the table. I got inspiration from Sean KS on this forum (thanks).  I replaced the Festool mechanism on the back of the table with a linear guide and a 1020 Extrusion from 8020. its not as pretty as his though. I attached it to the hinge plate for the guide rail.  I added a bolt to the 8020 so at its lowest the guide rail sets right at the fence height when lain flat.  With any wood piece against the fence the guide rail hinges moving the 8020 piece up, perfectly lying flat across the top of the piece to be cut. Most of what I use is ¾” but I have used it up to 2” and tested up to 3”.  It does not need to be locked at height and has no movement side to side riding along the bearing. 

I can set up the table from completely clean times in 2.5 minutes.  Since it is new I have checked square and correct dimensions each time.  They both have been perfect each time. I can keep my table pushed back saving several inches and don’t have to lock the guide in place to cut. I can have a clean or set up table with very little effort.  It has been a game changer for me.

I tried the same thing with two fence clamps. It has a tendency to move slightly as it has a small gap. Was wondering if you have the same issue.
 
John Huh said:
Hal M said:
I have a small 8’x12’ shop in a shed.  I have used the MFT3 and TS55 as my primary saw.  I keep dust down with a Pro5 sander, a Trion Jigsaw and Domino. The  Festool system has allowed me to have a relatively dustless efficient space.  I made some changes to the MFT3.  I use the MFT as my primary workspace and need to have a clean space on the table and keep as much space left in my shop. 

First, I basically never use the protractor and wanted to both maximize my cutting space and keep the table pushed close to the back wall.  I ordered another fence clamp and use two clamps to hold the fence on the table.  I added a Kreg scale on the front, so I can use a flip stop for measurement. i set up using a carpenter’s square at exactly 12.5” on the flip stop of the fence and squaring up against some veritas dogs.  It squares the fence and gets it set for dimensioned for cutting.

Second, the current hinge mechanism was hard to open and lock from the front of the table. I got inspiration from Sean KS on this forum (thanks).  I replaced the Festool mechanism on the back of the table with a linear guide and a 1020 Extrusion from 8020. its not as pretty as his though. I attached it to the hinge plate for the guide rail.  I added a bolt to the 8020 so at its lowest the guide rail sets right at the fence height when lain flat.  With any wood piece against the fence the guide rail hinges moving the 8020 piece up, perfectly lying flat across the top of the piece to be cut. Most of what I use is ¾” but I have used it up to 2” and tested up to 3”.  It does not need to be locked at height and has no movement side to side riding along the bearing. 

I can set up the table from completely clean times in 2.5 minutes.  Since it is new I have checked square and correct dimensions each time.  They both have been perfect each time. I can keep my table pushed back saving several inches and don’t have to lock the guide in place to cut. I can have a clean or set up table with very little effort.  It has been a game changer for me.

I tried the same thing with two fence clamps. It has a tendency to move slightly as it has a small gap. Was wondering if you have the same issue.

I made a post a while back on how I changed the back fence.  I was having issues with the back clamps not holding well enough.  He changes I made have worked great. I am copying the link.  I hope it works. 
https://www.festoolownersgroup.com/...small-shop-new-mft-fence/msg609141/#msg609141
 
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