MFT3-MFT3/VL-CMS Basic UNIT-CMS-OF

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jmbfestool

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Hello all!!!!

I know I kept on saying I will do a review on the MFT3- VL which I just bought recently with the MFT3 but then decided to buy the CMS basic Unit because I didnt realise how heavy the MFT3 was and how much room it takes up having the VL attached and difficult to move when set up when you need room for infeed and outfeed when using the CMS-OF router.

I have been using both and have come across some disadvantages for both and advantages for both.

I have started this topic a bit to early as I havent made many pictures or videos yet! But I have done it to get my self motivated to do it.

This Topic wont be well organised as I will take pictures and videos over a coarse of a few days when I have the time and its convenient to do so at the time while I am working

Sorry in advance.

The good thing maybe is if any one wants pictures or a video taking of a specific area I can see what I can do.

Here are my first set of pictures and Video I took recently

This is showing the a disadvantage to the MFT3-VL

When I first tried to attach the Left Ug Arm extension to the MFT3-VL I didnt bother looking underneath I just slid the knob over and tighten I then slightly knocked the left arm extension and it started to fall over. I thought I didnt tighten it enough but I soon realised its because the knob hits the bottom groove and you cant fix the arm easily to the MFT3.  

On this Picture You can see it only just lips on the MFT which doesnt really hold enough
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You can see how the knob over hangs
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you can see the knob hitting and wont turn any more to tighten
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A Video showing the problem in action
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 Jmb

       I can't make out what this ug piece is.What I do know is that it has the same thunbscrew affair as the cms side extension which goes on the cms no problem.
   
      Nigel.
     
 
Why are you trying to fit them to the MFT/3?
They fit the CMS and the Kapex, where they are a useful addition, can't see the point of them on an MFT.
Or am I missing something, 'cos I do that with surprising ease sometimes. [unsure]
Rob.
 
I think the chap is trying to ask the question why are parts not interchangeable within the different components - which is a fair question to ask. I'm always wanting a little more space on MFT/3, I just bought another. Then for a little more space I use my CMS.

 
       
    What happens when you want to cut a long panel on the mft?Do you have take out the saw module or take the router fence off?
         
 
Nigel,

Oooo... good point... Not thought of that !!

If I were attaching this thing, I'd just see it as some extra space to put stuff...

But if you were to use it whilst cutting longways... Use an Alu blade :-)
 
Rob-GB said:
Why are you trying to fit them to the MFT/3?
They fit the CMS and the Kapex, where they are a useful addition, can't see the point of them on an MFT.
Or am I missing something, 'cos I do that with surprising ease sometimes. [unsure]
Rob.
Click to expand...

The MFT3  and the MFT3/VL  have the same V groove and box groove around them.  So if you was to use the Arm exenstions on the MFT3/VL cms you would get the same problem I showed above.

I just demotrated it on my MFT3  instread of my VL  but I can do a picture with the VL if you want.

Picture of the CMS VL and CMS basic unit you can see  why you still have the same problem with the VL and no problem with the Basic Unit!

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Any way answering you question even more.

Its handy to be able to attach the Arms to your MFT3  because is allows you to cut longer sheets with more support.   Also While using you MFT3/VL CMS-OF you want support for in Feed and out but like showed above the Ug-Arm extension don't attach very well to these.    With the Kapex and the Basic CMS unit you have no problems at all because they only have a V groove.

Here is a picture of the ARM attached to the MFT3-VL

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EDITED:

Better pictures

JMB
 
Disadvantage of the Basic UNIT CMS  over the VL

You can see the CMS OF fence is longer than the Basic CMS unit and this then gets in the way of the UG arm extension because of the raised back.

With the MFT3/VL the CMS OF fence doesnt stick out because the MFT/VL is much wider.

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As you can see the MFT3/VL is wider so the fence doesnt hit the arm extension

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As mentioned on another topic! The Basic unit has a a place or many places (6 I think) to place the turning wheel.   I havent found any where on the MFT3/VL yet where you can store it.

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EDITED:

OH I forgot to mention and take a picture of it aswell but it also has some where to put your push stick as the VL has not

JMB
 
Nigel said:
 Jmb

       I can't make out what this ug piece is.What I do know is that it has the same thunbscrew affair as the cms side extension which goes on the cms no problem.
   
      Nigel.
     
Click to expand...

THE CMS side exenstion dont you tighten it from above?!?!?!
 
Just a Video and pics showing the CMS OF and OF2200 in use!

It brilliant!  I love it!  The dust extraction is brilliant. You definitely need the Y splitter using the large and small hose. I got the Y hose Package for 60GBP which included the Y spliter and a short Large hose and a slightly longer small hose.    I tried it with no dust extraction and you can not use it with out it fills with dust straight away

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jmbfestool said:
Nigel said:
 Jmb

       I can't make out what this ug piece is.What I do know is that it has the same thunbscrew affair as the cms side extension which goes on the cms no problem.
   
      Nigel.
     
Click to expand...

THE CMS side exenstion dont you tighten it from above?!?!?!
Click to expand...

      No, it's excactly the same as those UG Kapex jobbies but as the base unit doesn't have the extra profile  the thumbscrew doesn't catch it.Glad I didn't get the VL [smile]
 
Nigel said:
jmbfestool said:
Nigel said:
 Jmb

       I can't make out what this ug piece is.What I do know is that it has the same thunbscrew affair as the cms side extension which goes on the cms no problem.
   
      Nigel.
     
Click to expand...

THE CMS side exenstion dont you tighten it from above?!?!?!
Click to expand...

      No, it's excactly the same as those UG Kapex jobbies but as the base unit doesn't have the extra profile  the thumbscrew doesn't catch it.Glad I didn't get the VL [smile]
Click to expand...

I could say glad I got both  [huh]

JMB
 
   
    Yeah,both's good ,you can have the saw in one the router in the other no hassle swappin modules!  [cool] But you need another for the jigsaw [eek]
 
jmbfestool said:
Rob-GB said:
Why are you trying to fit them to the MFT/3?
They fit the CMS and the Kapex, where they are a useful addition, can't see the point of them on an MFT.
Or am I missing something, 'cos I do that with surprising ease sometimes. [unsure]
Rob.
Click to expand...

The MFT3  and the MFT3/VL  have the same V groove and box groove around them.  So if you was to use the Arm exenstions on the MFT3/VL cms you would get the same problem I showed above.

I just demotrated it on my MFT3  instread of my VL  but I can do a picture with the VL if you want.

JMB
Click to expand...

JMB, I was unaware that the profile around the CMS and MFT/VL were so different, had you done the demo pics on the VL, I would have understood from the get go.
It certainly looks like the design team dropped the ball on this one. [eek]
No offence was intended in my earlier post, just an enquiry [bite tongue]
Rob.
 
Nigel said:
     
    Yeah,both's good ,you can have the saw in one the router in the other no hassle swappin modules!  [cool] But you need another for the jigsaw [eek]
Click to expand...

LoL  I think I have spend enough lol!  Any way they dont do one for the Carvex yet

JMB
 
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