NEC 2010

[jmbfestool]

That looks amazing!!! Don't do much first fix so couldnt justify it. Or could I lol. What was the new Hoover like in size. Looks big in the pictures I've seen.

Seemed bigger than my CT22 only because I removed my top section I dont need it makes it bigger and bulky! But the CTL26 looking at it its permanently fixed. But being able to remove  the top off completely is very nice much better than the CT22 which is hinged and it has a much larger volume! So when I can convince my self to buy another vacuum I will be buying the CTL26!

JMB

 

[jmbfestool]

you JMB, just how it reads in my head lol.

I wish i had the sword saw for when i did this  http://festoolownersgroup.com/member-projects/current-job/

gang cutting the rafters would have sped it up alot

I missed that topic! Dont know how I missed it thought!   Big house!     And yes the Protool sword and Mafel birds mouth would make light work of that roof!

What did you use instead Jigsaw?!  Circular saw and finish if with hand saw for the birds mouth?!    The Mafel Sword can be set straight so can also be used for cutting birds mouths but for normal cutting he said have it angled to cut quicker.

JMB

i was suprised when you didnt comment on it,

yeah i have seen the birdsmouth cutter(skew notcher?)

I also looked at the bigfoot saw stuff as i wanted a wormdrive and swing table

Funny thing is if I did notice the topic I probs would of said you should buy the Protool lol

Yeah the skew notcher.  

This ..
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It feels and it is MASSIVE.   I took a breath to lift it thinking it was going to be really heavy! but it wasnt that bad!  I wish I asked him show us how it works but because of the price I kinda walked away after that lol!

JMB

 

[Deansocial]

rather have the protool csp132 with the wide housing cutter set. much more useful

 

[jmbfestool]

rather have the protool csp132 with the wide housing cutter set. much more useful

whats good about that?! Looks like a normal circular saw.      Oh did had a MASSIVE Mafel circular saw the blade was as big as me  I wouldnt want that to kick back it would cut me in half!

Edited;  Oh I c it can have an attachment to make it like a larger groove cutter or birds mouth cutter um I like it.   Does it cut as big as the Maffel?!?!

JMB

 

[Deansocial]

http://www.timberwolftools.com/tools/protool/P-CSP132E.html

its the stuff that you can get for it

 

[justinmcf]

hi dean.
i have the daddy of the protool csp 132.
the protool csp 165.
it is a brute of a thing.
i still have not had a chance to use it on site.

justin.

 

[Deansocial]

have you got the wide housing cutter for it?

 

[jmbfestool]

http://www.timberwolftools.com/tools/protool/P-CSP132E.html

its the stuff that you can get for it

I dont know about the Mafel but im going to look now!  But the Protool says it will only do 2 inch deep and 45degrees    45 degrees doesnt seem shallow enough.

Here is a video of the Wide cutter in USE near the end of the video if you cant be bothered to watch all of it
http://vidds.net/v/nl/protool-csp-range_A4I4O434J443N3U4Z2H363.html

JMB

 

[jmbfestool]

The Mafel will do 0-60 degree to me seems more usefull.

JMB

 

[justinmcf]

no i dont think there is a wide housing for the csp 165.
the standard blade is 420mm.
i cant imagine how much the wide housing would be.

justin.

 

[Deansocial]

but 45 will cover all pitches if you set it to 20degrees it is 70 if run from the opposite side???

anyway. it not much faster than doing it with a circular saw run from each direction and far to big and heavy, and uses to much power

 

[richard.selwyn]

I was at the NEC today as well - might even have seen you without knowing it- what a shame we could have had a drink together!
I was with BIL (brother in law) so didn't buy anything but spent a long time talking to the Swiss guy from Lamello about the Invis
I have the old version which I never use ( bought it at a show in France when it first came out-France is where I live :-\) the Lamello guy was great - he worked on the development of the new version. Now he told me I should think about using it for permanent and not just knock down it seems a lot more useful - stair handrails looks like one perfect use
Was  very tempted by the Mafell 55 saw - hate to say it but I think it's got my TS 55 beat
I also like the new drill but shame it has no eccentric chuck- a deal breaker for me- I'll stick to the C12
Regards from Brum
Richard

Richard

 

[richard.selwyn]

PS
Did you check out the Senco nailers ?

 

[jmbfestool]

PS
Did you check out the Senco nailers ?

Yeah! I we had a long chat! with the Senco guy!  He told me not to buy one yet!  lol Thats good sales tactics lol He told me to not buy one yet wait about 6 months and the price will drop a lot he said and they would of brought out a new 16Gauge nailer by then  at the moment they only have 15Gauge.

He seemed honest

He said he knows they will struggle because of paslode owning the market at the moment.    He also said they are trying to develop a first fix gun with the same technology.

Looking back I wish I bought the Mafel KS300 and the Lamelo Invis Kit  £1000 pounds though!

So I missed two Fog memebers  at the NEC  Festastic went sunday! I was going to go sunday but my mate couldnt go!

You said you was talking to the Lamelo guy about the Invis I hope you wasn't the guy who was standing next to me when I was asking questions like will it still work out side because of rust he said its made if stainless so wont rust things like that and then this guy next to me jumped in and said so you basically just drill a hole and hammer it in.  I was thinking you bloody idiot! I hope it didnt think it was you I was thinking was an idiot lol. [tongue]

What time was you there?!

JMB

 

[richard.selwyn]

I was there monday lunchtime - if anyone was making any idiot comments it would have been my Brother in Law - he was trying to explain to the German guy on the Mafell stand what a Birmingham Screwdriver was.  The poor guy looked lost!

The new invis is less critical when you line things up and stronger apparently.  I just can't see me using it all that much - Brother in Law said whats wrong with nails  ;D ;D

Richard

 

[Rob-GB]

I was there monday lunchtime - if anyone was making any idiot comments it would have been my Brother in Law - he was trying to explain to the German guy on the Mafell stand what a Birmingham Screwdriver was.  The poor guy looked lost!

The new invis is less critical when you line things up and stronger apparently.  I just can't see me using it all that much - Brother in Law said whats wrong with nails  ;D ;D
Richard

Hence the Brummie screwdriver!  [laughing] [laughing] ;D

 

[jmbfestool]

I was there monday lunchtime - if anyone was making any idiot comments it would have been my Brother in Law - he was trying to explain to the German guy on the Mafell stand what a Birmingham Screwdriver was.  The poor guy looked lost!

The new invis is less critical when you line things up and stronger apparently.  I just can't see me using it all that much - Brother in Law said whats wrong with nails  ;D ;D

Richard

Ha Nails!   I was their from 9  to about 1

I was close on buying the the entire Invis kit I loved it  I can see it come in handy alot.   I loved the the bits with the bridge section so you can fix two shelves on one thing panel as the magnet screw goes through the panel.  I have seen it on the internet but thought it cant be very strong but seeing it in person and getting my mate to hold the wood apart while I use the magnet to screw it together was good well he tried but he could NOT hold it apart.  Which for me was good enough proof that is has a good pulling force.    Did you look under the table at Lamelo they had 4 festool drills sitting their I was like I want to use them not this rubbish bosch lol!    I like it as its an instant hold you dont need to clamp things while the glue goes off so you could just use two on an edge then have the rest with Dominos or Dowels put plenty of glue screw it together with the magnet bang your done it strong enough just with the the screws and even stronger with Dominos and when the glue goes of even stronger and no fixing in sight!

JMB

 

[jmbfestool]

I got a delivery to day!!!  They didnt leave it at the door!!!  [mad] they just put a delivery note through the letter box!  Why didnt they leave it at the front DOOR!!!!!!!!! lol  I think its my PROTOOL SWORD!!!! and the PROTOOL Cordless Autofeed Gun!!  If they had left it at the front door I could of been playing with it now! lol 

JMB

 

[jmbfestool]

Oh dean! I didnt know protool made this!

http://wwwinet.my-tts.com/Protool/Produktbilder/06_saegen_zimmereimaschinen/jpg_zoom/zoom_06_nrp90_617250_p_01a.jpg

Looks smaller than the Mafel one!

JMB

 

[joiner1970]

I went to the NEC 2010 to day!  

Well I couldn't come back empty handed!    

I went thinking I was just going to look at the Hammer Felder machinery!  but then found BunnyBolts! who had Protool and Festool! I had been looking at the Protool Universe for a while on the internet but when I saw BunnyBolts had one and I had a look I had to buy it!!  I then noticed he had the Protool Auto Feed screw gun and ofcorse I bought that!  Well them two tools cost me £1200 including vat!  

Then I saw! Lamello magnet Invis kit! I had been looking at them months ago on the internet! but thought to my self they arn't any good cant see them being very strong!  Well I was wrong! They are! They hold really well! I was really surprised how well they hold and a must buy! 10% off retail price but it was still going to cost me over £400 so I had to have a think about it so I went for a walk! Thinking I just spend £1200!  Then I saw this KONIG repair kit I loved it and bought it cost me £200!   So I was on £1400

Carried on walking then saw a MAFFEL section pretty big really didnt bother looking at the JIGSAW because I already own the Carvec but I loved the KSS300 circular saw its really tiny and both the flexible rail and the short spring loaded fit in a systainer! £490  [eek] I really wanted it!  I was thinking I cant buy the Lamello Invis kit and Maffel! Well my mate loved the Mafel and bought it with a free blade! It made me want it more so we went out side for a drink and something to eat. Then my mate said I am not letting you go back into the NEC because your not spending any more money! So after talking to him and him telling me not to do it we went home!  It was a lucky escape really! I cant help my self I just keep on buying!!

Oh I had a feel of the CXS at bonny bolts and I must admit the drill feels nice and feels really light and small I kinda liked it.

It was a good show!  I did take my camera to take pictures but I wasnt comfortable to take pictures Sorry!!!  Any way when the Protool Universe and Screw gun arrives ill do a quick little write up on it!  Also asked my mate if I can have a play with the Mafel and take pictures and some videos he said no props so when he gets his ill do a little write up on HERE!

I use Bunnys bolts quiet a lot they are just down the road from me and sell lots of stuff other people dont, a guy called Warren runs it.