need recommendations for new shop cabinets with systainers in mind...

[terpgrad89]

I am new here so be nice. I have moved into a new house that has a 2,400 shop space. I have started building some outfeed tables and such but, because I have a bland slate, I would like to call on those that have been down this road before and ask for suggestions, either written or photo, to help me max out the potential of the shop from an efficiency and aesthetic perspective. Any help along those lines will be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much.

 

[woodferret]

Space optimization, the Sys3 rails are better - although the standard ones you'll have to pull the entire systainer and set it on a table. If you have a 3d printer, you can print ones that have a sliding mechanism. They're not entirely stout and flex a bit compared to a more robust Sys-AZ setup. That leads to heavy tools that go in-and-out of the box frequently... look into either the Sys-AZ or roll your own with drawer slides.

Or... you can do what I do and build small conformant sys carts and just stack everything on wheels and do the sys-cart ballet. Shop cabinets can then be reserved for more oversized stuff like materials, etc.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

I am new here so be nice. I have moved into a new house that has a 2,400 shop space. I have started building some outfeed tables and such but, because I have a bland slate, I would like to call on those that have been down this road before and ask for suggestions, either written or photo, to help me max out the potential of the shop from an efficiency and aesthetic perspective. Any help along those lines will be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much.

Welcome, being new is not a bad thing. This place is generally very friendly and very informative.
2400 sq ft is quite a large space. It would be helpful to know what kind of machinery you are trying to fit into it and what kind of projects you make.

 

[jeffinsgf]

Here's an outfeed table with Systainer storage and 20-96 dog hole spaced top. It's 4 separate base cabinets that create the base for a semi-torsion box top ("semi" because it isn't ribbed as heavily as what I consider a true torsion box). The trays are designed to accommodate any age of Systainer and even non-Systainer cases.

All-In-One Outfeed & Assembly Table

Flexibility. That’s what I wanted to design into this work table. I wanted it to work with just about any table saw, provide storage in its base and have a versatile work surface. I built this one for the new Saw Stop that’s been added to our model shop,

www.woodpeck.com

 

[terpgrad89]

Welcome, being new is not a bad thing. This place is generally very friendly and very informative.
2400 sq ft is quite a large space. It would be helpful to know what kind of machinery you are trying to fit into it and what kind of projects you make.

The machinery I have will not have too much bearing on my cabinets. All my major machines are set up. I have a new Sw Stop, new 12" jointer and my dust collection is all rolled lip. I am trying to build cabinets that I can have storage but that will also house all my sustainers. Like I said, I have a blank slate and can build anything I want to so I want to take advantage of that unique situation. I am currently going into my shop and sitting and staring at the mitre station I have now and think about how I can significantly upgrade the situation. I recently moved from Maryland to Florida and the house we bought had an attached nine car garage. Now before you think I'm bragging, I'm not. The garage is the same square footage as the house at 2,400 sf. It's the biggest reason we bought the house AND the garage is under air with its own HVAC system. So it's perfect. I just want to optimize the space I have with the most efficient and productive cabinet design. I asked for some ideas but, in the end, because I can't provide a lot of information about specifics, I am just looki9nig for general ideas. Thank you for your response.

 

[terpgrad89]

Here's an outfeed table with Systainer storage and 20-96 dog hole spaced top. It's 4 separate base cabinets that create the base for a semi-torsion box top ("semi" because it isn't ribbed as heavily as what I consider a true torsion box). The trays are designed to accommodate any age of Systainer and even non-Systainer cases.

All-In-One Outfeed & Assembly Table

Flexibility. That’s what I wanted to design into this work table. I wanted it to work with just about any table saw, provide storage in its base and have a versatile work surface. I built this one for the new Saw Stop that’s been added to our model shop,

www.woodpeck.com

Thank you!!

Here's an outfeed table with Systainer storage and 20-96 dog hole spaced top. It's 4 separate base cabinets that create the base for a semi-torsion box top ("semi" because it isn't ribbed as heavily as what I consider a true torsion box). The trays are designed to accommodate any age of Systainer and even non-Systainer cases.

All-In-One Outfeed & Assembly Table

Flexibility. That’s what I wanted to design into this work table. I wanted it to work with just about any table saw, provide storage in its base and have a versatile work surface. I built this one for the new Saw Stop that’s been added to our model shop,

www.woodpeck.com

Thank you.

 

[terpgrad89]

Space optimization, the Sys3 rails are better - although the standard ones you'll have to pull the entire systainer and set it on a table. If you have a 3d printer, you can print ones that have a sliding mechanism. They're not entirely stout and flex a bit compared to a more robust Sys-AZ setup. That leads to heavy tools that go in-and-out of the box frequently... look into either the Sys-AZ or roll your own with drawer slides.

Or... you can do what I do and build small conformant sys carts and just stack everything on wheels and do the sys-cart ballet. Shop cabinets can then be reserved for more oversized stuff like materials, etc.

Thank you!!

 

[smorgasbord]

Ditch the systainers.

No, seriously. You’ve got a huge shop space with no need to travel. Systainers will just get in the way. Can’t see what’s in them and they’re designed to protect the tool in transit. Look at the DF700 as an example. Huge pain getting the tool in and out.

Build open shelves. Maybe drawers under each for related accessories and such. If you want cabinets, make doors with plexiglass panels and put LED lighting inside.

 

[terpgrad89]

Ditch the systainers.

No, seriously. You’ve got a huge shop space with no need to travel. Systainers will just get in the way. Can’t see what’s in them and they’re designed to protect the tool in transit. Look at the DF700 as an example. Huge pain getting the tool in and out.

Build open shelves. Maybe drawers under each for related accessories and such. If you want cabinets, make doors with plexiglass panels and put LED lighting inside.

that's interesting. Thank you for your response. I will consider what you have said.

 

[BarneyD]

I rarely need to take my tools out of the shop. So I also prefer drawers over systainers, since I can fit more into a drawer. I built a couple of mobile carts that fir under the RAS table. These provide storage and double as assembly carts when rolled out. This probably wouldn't work for everyone, but I like it. Just my $.02.

Cheers,
Barney

 

[luvmytoolz]

Rolling carts are the bee's knee's! So handy!

 

[richey]

Ditch the systainers.

No, seriously. You’ve got a huge shop space with no need to travel. Systainers will just get in the way. Can’t see what’s in them and they’re designed to protect the tool in transit. Look at the DF700 as an example. Huge pain getting the tool in and out.

Build open shelves. Maybe drawers under each for related accessories and such. If you want cabinets, make doors with plexiglass panels and put LED lighting inside.

It's better to have a combination of both. Things I don't use often like my Conturo, Trim Kit, and the MKF700 that goes with it stays in the Systainer when not in use but things like my drills and Track saw don't. I dunno why some people get so passionate about insisting you don't use the Systainers.

 

[onocoffee]

I'm definitely a "keep them in the systainers" kind of person - but I've been that way all my life. I still have my old DeWalt DW364 Circular Saw in a metal case.

I get that others like to have their Festool on display and at the ready. Personally speaking, it all just gets dusty. And I'm not a fan of cleaning dusty tools. Plus, wall space in my garage is at a premium so having the tools in their systainers, or boxes, keeps everything handy. Plus, I like the way systainers have that uniform look when stacked neatly in cabinets.