New Centrotec HD?

Few days ago I played with this kit at my dealer's shop.

Honestly, I'd really like to know who Festool had in mind when they pieced it together?

I mean, I get the forstner and irwin/douglas drill bits, the screwdriver bits and maybe even the let's call it Festool-"Goodies". Although I will never understand why a high-end tool manufacturer like Festool will print their name on an inferior product like that "knife". (Hardcore, high-end handmade knife collector speaking here...) A SAK is one thing, but that...

But the 1/2" ratchet and selection of sockets? I would understand if they had made a "Heavy Duty"-Kit by placing a complete 1/4" and 1/2" ratchet/socket set in a Systainer accompanied by some Centrotec stuff to use at least some of the sockets i.e. with one of their drills.

I'm sorry, but this really looks like: "Oh, we have some space left, well, let's put in a ratchet and a few sockets"

Kind regards,
Oliver
 
TheTrooper said:
Looks  like a decking kit for carriage bolts and so on.  I wonder how good the auger bits are and hopefully they will be available in singles soon.

I think this could be the intent. As well as other types of construction where bolts and lag bolts might be getting  used.

Seth
 
High end knife collecting knifes are in the thousand dollar and up range.
Otter-messer gets rebadged a lot by German tool companies.  $20-30 knives.
Not sure if this is a Solignon knife or of Asian origin, but...I dunno, not something I think most people are concerned about. 

six-point socket said:
Few days ago I played with this kit at my dealer's shop.

Honestly, I'd really like to know who Festool had in mind when they pieced it together?

I mean, I get the forstner and irwin/douglas drill bits, the screwdriver bits and maybe even the let's call it Festool-"Goodies". Although I will never understand why a high-end tool manufacturer like Festool will print their name on an inferior product like that "knife". (Hardcore, high-end handmade knife collector speaking here...) A SAK is one thing, but that...

But the 1/2" ratchet and selection of sockets? I would understand if they had made a "Heavy Duty"-Kit by placing a complete 1/4" and 1/2" ratchet/socket set in a Systainer accompanied by some Centrotec stuff to use at least some of the sockets i.e. with one of their drills.

I'm sorry, but this really looks like: "Oh, we have some space left, well, let's put in a ratchet and a few sockets"

Kind regards,
Oliver
 
yetihunter said:
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Kev said:
yetihunter said:

My wife just looked at that second picture and said "hey look at the robot face"

So is the target audience is Starwars and Thunderbirds fans?

These bit selections have been available in 1/4" since when? (90s?)

I am failing to see the innovation, other than whacking it into a systainer with a plastic tray that organises it. And I base that on having a the earlier Centrotec systainer kit. What is everyone so excited about?

Is it the Robot face?
 
six-point socket said:
Few days ago I played with this kit at my dealer's shop.

Honestly, I'd really like to know who Festool had in mind when they pieced it together?

I mean, I get the forstner and irwin/douglas drill bits, the screwdriver bits and maybe even the let's call it Festool-"Goodies". Although I will never understand why a high-end tool manufacturer like Festool will print their name on an inferior product like that "knife". (Hardcore, high-end handmade knife collector speaking here...) A SAK is one thing, but that...

But the 1/2" ratchet and selection of sockets? I would understand if they had made a "Heavy Duty"-Kit by placing a complete 1/4" and 1/2" ratchet/socket set in a Systainer accompanied by some Centrotec stuff to use at least some of the sockets i.e. with one of their drills.

I'm sorry, but this really looks like: "Oh, we have some space left, well, let's put in a ratchet and a few sockets"

Kind regards,
Oliver

yetihunter said:
High end knife collecting knifes are in the thousand dollar and up range.
Otter-messer gets rebadged a lot by German tool companies.  $20-30 knives.
Not sure if this is a Solignon knife or of Asian origin, but...I dunno, not something I think most people are concerned about. 

If it would have been an Otter, SAK-type or the like, I wouldn't have said anything. But it isn't, it's just an "ElCheapo". And I understand that this knife will be of no concern to most. I just expressed that I have a hard time understanding why a high-quality toolmaker would print his name on something like that when there are other options. You mentioned one of them - and the SAK-type already exists.

Please just take my statement for what it's really worth - it's just an observation, it's not just Festool but many, many other high-quality brands that put their names on "cheap giveaway"-type stuff. It doesn't appeal to me because it doesn't fit most of these companies own understandings of quality and integrity.

But that shouldn't be the topic here, I definitely don't want to open a can of worms about it, it's not worth it.

Kind regards,
Oliver
 
SRSemenza said:
TheTrooper said:
Looks  like a decking kit for carriage bolts and so on.  I wonder how good the auger bits are and hopefully they will be available in singles soon.

I think this could be the intent. As well as other types of construction where bolts and lag bolts might be getting  used.

Seth

Could be used for that, no question there. :) Still I find it to be an odd selection but I guess there are customers who have a use for it, as it sells. :)

Kind regards,
Oliver
 
six-point socket said:
six-point socket said:
Few days ago I played with this kit at my dealer's shop.

Honestly, I'd really like to know who Festool had in mind when they pieced it together?

I mean, I get the forstner and irwin/douglas drill bits, the screwdriver bits and maybe even the let's call it Festool-"Goodies". Although I will never understand why a high-end tool manufacturer like Festool will print their name on an inferior product like that "knife". (Hardcore, high-end handmade knife collector speaking here...) A SAK is one thing, but that...

But the 1/2" ratchet and selection of sockets? I would understand if they had made a "Heavy Duty"-Kit by placing a complete 1/4" and 1/2" ratchet/socket set in a Systainer accompanied by some Centrotec stuff to use at least some of the sockets i.e. with one of their drills.

I'm sorry, but this really looks like: "Oh, we have some space left, well, let's put in a ratchet and a few sockets"

Kind regards,
Oliver

yetihunter said:
High end knife collecting knifes are in the thousand dollar and up range.
Otter-messer gets rebadged a lot by German tool companies.  $20-30 knives.
Not sure if this is a Solignon knife or of Asian origin, but...I dunno, not something I think most people are concerned about. 

If it would have been an Otter, SAK-type or the like, I wouldn't have said anything. But it isn't, it's just an "ElCheapo". And I understand that this knife will be of no concern to most. I just expressed that I have a hard time understanding why a high-quality toolmaker would print his name on something like that when there are other options. You mentioned one of them - and the SAK-type already exists.

Please just take my statement for what it's really worth - it's just an observation, it's not just Festool but many, many other high-quality brands that put their names on "cheap giveaway"-type stuff. It doesn't appeal to me because it doesn't fit most of these companies own understandings of quality and integrity.

But that shouldn't be the topic here, I definitely don't want to open a can of worms about it, it's not worth it.

Kind regards,
Oliver

Thought I do share a picture or two. Here's an example of what I collect [member=19475]yetihunter[/member] - You're a knife collector yourself?

EDC: locking folding knife by Gustavo (GTC) of Brasil, damasteel blade, titanium handle, carbon fiber inserts.

[attachimg=1]

Backlock by late ABS Mastersmith Edward Hugh Barturg former owner of the Ashley Forge. Forged damascus, mammoth-ivory scales, mother of pearl inlays in back spacer.

[attachimg=2]

Kind regards,
Oliver
 

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Ok then it's decided Festool should add a first rate collectors item knife in the Centrotec kit and raise the price to $ 3500,- (or whatever such a knife may cost :))

Looks cool though!
 
Or a swiss army one with some green on it and hello kitty or robot face and still charge 3500?
 
On the topic of putting a knife in a Centrotec set .. I'm going to go with "quite dumb". A high end Stanley knife or similar would make sense, but not a folding blade knife. What will the next set have ??? Nanjaku ?
 
[member=13058]Kev[/member]
A divining rod would be useful. Better would be a divining rod for beer.
We could call it a PWA (pi$$ whip antenna).
 
No worries, we're all good. 
I get what you're saying and agree with that
line of thinking.

To answer your question, naw, I, personally, don't collect knives
and whatnot.  However, my friend is a hardcore knife collector
and of course I take the opportunity play with all of his toys
when I visit. 

Since I'm nerdy about old timey edge tools and have an armchair
fascination with machine shops, there's a crossover of interests and I
do read up on Blade Forums and whatnot.

six-point socket said:
six-point socket said:
Few days ago I played with this kit at my dealer's shop.

Honestly, I'd really like to know who Festool had in mind when they pieced it together?

I mean, I get the forstner and irwin/douglas drill bits, the screwdriver bits and maybe even the let's call it Festool-"Goodies". Although I will never understand why a high-end tool manufacturer like Festool will print their name on an inferior product like that "knife". (Hardcore, high-end handmade knife collector speaking here...) A SAK is one thing, but that...

But the 1/2" ratchet and selection of sockets? I would understand if they had made a "Heavy Duty"-Kit by placing a complete 1/4" and 1/2" ratchet/socket set in a Systainer accompanied by some Centrotec stuff to use at least some of the sockets i.e. with one of their drills.

I'm sorry, but this really looks like: "Oh, we have some space left, well, let's put in a ratchet and a few sockets"

Kind regards,
Oliver

yetihunter said:
High end knife collecting knifes are in the thousand dollar and up range.
Otter-messer gets rebadged a lot by German tool companies.  $20-30 knives.
Not sure if this is a Solignon knife or of Asian origin, but...I dunno, not something I think most people are concerned about. 

If it would have been an Otter, SAK-type or the like, I wouldn't have said anything. But it isn't, it's just an "ElCheapo". And I understand that this knife will be of no concern to most. I just expressed that I have a hard time understanding why a high-quality toolmaker would print his name on something like that when there are other options. You mentioned one of them - and the SAK-type already exists.

Please just take my statement for what it's really worth - it's just an observation, it's not just Festool but many, many other high-quality brands that put their names on "cheap giveaway"-type stuff. It doesn't appeal to me because it doesn't fit most of these companies own understandings of quality and integrity.

But that shouldn't be the topic here, I definitely don't want to open a can of worms about it, it's not worth it.

Kind regards,
Oliver
 
six-point socket said:
six-point socket said:
six-point socket said:
Few days ago I played with this kit at my dealer's shop.

Honestly, I'd really like to know who Festool had in mind when they pieced it together?

I mean, I get the forstner and irwin/douglas drill bits, the screwdriver bits and maybe even the let's call it Festool-"Goodies". Although I will never understand why a high-end tool manufacturer like Festool will print their name on an inferior product like that "knife". (Hardcore, high-end handmade knife collector speaking here...) A SAK is one thing, but that...

But the 1/2" ratchet and selection of sockets? I would understand if they had made a "Heavy Duty"-Kit by placing a complete 1/4" and 1/2" ratchet/socket set in a Systainer accompanied by some Centrotec stuff to use at least some of the sockets i.e. with one of their drills.

I'm sorry, but this really looks like: "Oh, we have some space left, well, let's put in a ratchet and a few sockets"

Kind regards,
Oliver

yetihunter said:
High end knife collecting knifes are in the thousand dollar and up range.
Otter-messer gets rebadged a lot by German tool companies.  $20-30 knives.
Not sure if this is a Solignon knife or of Asian origin, but...I dunno, not something I think most people are concerned about. 

If it would have been an Otter, SAK-type or the like, I wouldn't have said anything. But it isn't, it's just an "ElCheapo". And I understand that this knife will be of no concern to most. I just expressed that I have a hard time understanding why a high-quality toolmaker would print his name on something like that when there are other options. You mentioned one of them - and the SAK-type already exists.

Please just take my statement for what it's really worth - it's just an observation, it's not just Festool but many, many other high-quality brands that put their names on "cheap giveaway"-type stuff. It doesn't appeal to me because it doesn't fit most of these companies own understandings of quality and integrity.

But that shouldn't be the topic here, I definitely don't want to open a can of worms about it, it's not worth it.

Kind regards,
Oliver

Thought I do share a picture or two. Here's an example of what I collect [member=19475]yetihunter[/member] - You're a knife collector yourself?

EDC: locking folding knife by Gustavo (GTC) of Brasil, damasteel blade, titanium handle, carbon fiber inserts.

[attachimg=1]

Backlock by late ABS Mastersmith Edward Hugh Barturg former owner of the Ashley Forge. Forged damascus, mammoth-ivory scales, mother of pearl inlays in back spacer.

[attachimg=2]

Kind regards,
Oliver

six-point socket,

I didn't see any sign of use on your EDC stuff.
 
[member=19475]yetihunter[/member] Sounds great :) and blade forums is a great resource anyway, for all kind of stuff  ;D

[member=8111]VaDimZH[/member]

Then please take a closer look as I don't "abuse" my stuff.  :) You still will notice the rounded off edges on the Dupont the wear on the silver coat, scratches on the lower part of the handles of the knife (I've been carrying and using that since '09) and the watch, well it has been on my wrist for 5 years straight now - but it is in great shape with no wear that a picture could tell. It has the typical "micro scratches" all over, though.

However, since you might need to see to believe, here are 3 pictures of the knife that highlight it's wear. Of course, due to lighting this will seem more severe than it in reality is.

[attachimg=1]

[attachimg=2]

[attachimg=3]

I pride myself in taking very good care of my stuff, all of it. (I said it before, some would call me pedantic over it)
--

Then again, my original post was solely my expression of an observation that I have made over time, and the posting with the knives only meant to make it more clear where I'm coming from - and in hope to maybe having found another knife collector on here ;)

I apologize if that got to someone in a wrong way.

Kind regards,
Oliver
 

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Please this post is about the New Centrotec HD.
And NOT about expensive knives!!!!!!!!
Return to the topic.
 
I apologize. Rest assured it will never ever happen again.

Good bye,
Oliver
 
  I am considering splitting the knife discussion from this thread. But wanted to see where it went first since it is based off the knife in the Centrotec set. Compared to much of the OT in threads lately this isn't really all that off topic since it started in relation to the knife in the set.

Seth
 
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