New Dust Extractor Ends

I don't understand why they just don't make all the tool connections like the one of the Rotex and the ETS EC pictured above. They are always rock solid thanks to the extra length. Even with older nozzles that got a bit sloppy.
 
Alex said:
I don't understand why they just don't make all the tool connections like the one of the Rotex and the ETS EC pictured above. They are always rock solid thanks to the extra length. Even with older nozzles that got a bit sloppy.
Vendor lock-in. Just like for example Apple uses lightning cables instead of USB for the iPhone/iPad. It's not 1 to 1 the same, but still, same principle. Encourage / nudge consumers to buy your other products as well.
By using this style connector it will work "best/better" with festool hoses and vacuums instead of just any other vacuum. It's to subtly encourage/push people to buy cleantec extractors, hoses and connectors. Push people to buy into "the system". Which will then encourage/nudge them to buy another Festool if they need to buy another kind of tool. Because, well they already have the Festool vacuum with the weird connector. It's probably best to buy another Festool, because that will connect best...

But i totaly agree with you. They should have just made a sublte change to the dust ports, with 1 or more ridges and everything would have been fine...
 
So glad I was able to get all the Festool tools I wanted that have dust collection ports on them right before they switched them all over to the new style!
 
On another annoying note, I purchased a 2nd generation hose (white wrapped hose)...while the new twist lock end is not a problem since my tools don't have the twist lock feature, the vacuum end is also different (with internal ribs), so that it doesn't fit over the intake of my Dust Deputy....this hose won't get used
 
As long as we’re complaining about hose ends, and the Dust Deputy has been brought up, why is the input port on the DD tapered smaller instead of bigger? The downstream end of a hose should fit into rather than over that port. When you pull the input hose off the DD a ring of dust falls off the DD port.

If the DD input port was tapered out instead of in that sleeved Festool hose would fit right in as is.
 
Well it would seem that Festool has seen the light and is now selling the old style hose adapter after all.

It will be offered in a presentation box along with a 18 volt impact screwdriver and a redesigned Kapex armature... Germany only though.
 
Cheese said:
Here's a shot comparing a new Pro 5 and an older style connection on an ETS EC 125. Both sanders were used on the same job and for approximately the same amount of time. The flat area on the bottom of the new connector has already jettisoned it's drywall dust on the floor while the other 2 flats on the new connector are at the ready to dump theirs if the sander is bumped.

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But it has "cleantech" molded right into it, therefore it's a clean technology, or are you implying the name of the product does not as a matter of fact state it's reality and in fact it might just be ironic?

 
DeformedTree said:
But it has "cleantech" molded right into it, therefore it's a clean technology, or are you implying the name of the product does not as a matter of fact state it's reality and in fact it might just be ironic?

Ya I got a chuckle from that one when I looked at it.  How macabre...
 
morts10n said:
On another annoying note, I purchased a 2nd generation hose (white wrapped hose)...while the new twist lock end is not a problem since my tools don't have the twist lock feature, the vacuum end is also different (with internal ribs), so that it doesn't fit over the intake of my Dust Deputy....this hose won't get used

I noticed the same with the hose I recently bought. Pissed me off. I will get a replacement hose end (from someone other than FT) so I can use the hose but won't bother buying any future Festool hoses that are incompatible with my current vacs, tools,  and hoses.
 
Loving my new smooth hoses!  I don't have any of the new twist lock tools and actually thought that the new hose end might be ok.  That was until this morning in the shop when the hose falls off the mfk700..  I thought maybe it wasn't pushed on all the way, which it wasn't because the new connector will not allow it to. What a rediculus improvement, reminds me of "New Coke"  that no one liked.  At least Coke changed the flavor back to "Classic" .    Now I'm on the "I  hate them" train but I sure love the new smooth hose which unfortunately will leave me with many of the new worthless connectors.
 
Have not bought a soda in a decade or so but just learned that Coke has a new flavor, Orange Vanilla. Might buy one to taste it. Kinda reminds me of Dr. Pepper (which I used to like) but in the opposite direction.

Bought a new smooth hose and have no idea how to connect it to my old ATF 55 or even older AT 65, but I do like that it fits over the port of those tools it’s able to fit rather than into the port as the hose does on the old saws.
 
The new 36mm hose connector is virtually the same as before, its the 27mm  that is so whacked....  I only use the larger hose on the saws and then add a short whip (27mm on both ends) to connect to sanders and routers. 

I did find early on that the 27mm hose did not like to stay connected to the atf55 or the ts55, hence I just use the 36mm on saws, OF1400, and for floor cleaning.
 
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