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[jimbo51]

I compared the specifications on the Festool USA site between the TS 55 and the HKC. The TS 55 specs list on and off rail info. The HKC specs (only 1 set) match the TS 55 off rail specs. That leads me to think that the HKC on rail would have a depth of cut just short for 45 degrees on 2x. However, Rick shows that the cut is just sufficient. As noted above, maybe conservative specs.

Perhaps folks going to Festool Connect can pack or buy locally some wet 2x pressure treated material and see what the 45 degree cuts look like. That should give the worst case scenario and dry stock should certainly have better cuts.

I dreamed about this saw last night. In my dream the saw looked like a mixture of a circular saw and a Formula 1 race car. It was also available in different colors. Of course I had just brought home a yellow and an orange systainer, so ...

 

[Rick Christopherson]

Also not your's to try and disparage someone for posting.

You are so angry and defensive that you assume everyone else must be angry and defensive too. I didn't disparage you. I commented on my findings since I have access to the saw in question. You made the personal choice to read that as negative. I can't control that. But sorry, nevertheless.

 

[Shane Holland]

All, my info came from no fewer than three different Festool employees. I asked several questions and was told definitively that it would only make the cut off the rail. If the findings are contrary to that, I don't mind eating a little crow. Because I would prefer to find that it will make it.

 

[tjbnwi]

Also not your's to try and disparage someone for posting.

You are so angry and defensive that you assume everyone else must be angry and defensive too. I didn't disparage you. I commented on my findings since I have access to the saw in question. You made the personal choice to read that as negative. I can't control that. But sorry, nevertheless.

So little you know of me. There are plenty here who will tell you I'm the exact opposite of what you state. You chose to quote me and state it was much ado about nothing. Read the post you quoted, I clearly stated we need to try the HK to know for sure.

Again thanks for the picture. Proved me wrong for defending the saw (I mean this in a good way).

Tom

 

[awil66]

I hope they develop a solution to this because I really want this saw to be a viable option for me. I see bosch make  165mm blades with a 1.8mm kerf.http://www.axminster.co.uk/bosch-165mm-top-precision-circular-saw-blades-ax884094?sel=503656

 

[peter halle]

As I wrote I can't wait to see it real life action at the Connect event.  I admit that Shane's postings and even the images posted are not giving me a warm and fuzzy in advance of seeing it in action myself.  And the reason why?  I have been anticipating this coming to market and could see a real need for it. 

I gave up using miter saws years ago that placed serious limitations on me and made my workflow more difficult if I could only use the wood to the Left OR the Right of the blade versus me making that decision.

I would hate to see that be the case in this instance.

Peter

 

[w802h]

The new saw and rail look really cool, but there are plenty of framing materials that require a deeper than 2" cut at a 90 like TGIs.  I think the saw will provide a lot of utility for many situations, but there will always be situations that require a different saw.  I wonder if the rail is long enough to do a plumb cut on a 2x12.  For framing interior spaces on remodels where there isn't a lot of room for setting up a miter saw and cut station, it would probably be an ideal way of getting a great, quick cut. 

 

[tjbnwi]

The new saw and rail look really cool, but there are plenty of framing materials that require a deeper than 2" cut at a 90 like TGIs.  I think the saw will provide a lot of utility for many situations, but there will always be situations that require a different saw.  I wonder if the rail is long enough to do a plumb cut on a 2x12.  For framing interior spaces on remodels where there isn't a lot of room for setting up a miter saw and cut station, it would probably be an ideal way of getting a great, quick cut.

The longer rails will handle a 2x12.

Tom

 

[Rick Christopherson]

All, my info came from no fewer than three different Festool employees. I asked several questions and was told definitively that it would only make the cut off the rail. If the findings are contrary to that, I don't mind eating a little crow. Because I would prefer to find that it will make it.

I have to plead ignorance. I haven't been following this thread, and the only reason why I opened it today was to decide whether to unsubscribe to it or not. I was getting too many email notifications for it.  [tongue]

However, at Shane's request, I went down to the shop to take a few measurements. The first being that he wanted to verify the size of the 2x4. That's logical. So I grabbed my engineering caliper and headed down to the shop again. I measured the 2x4 in several places around the cut. I had a variation from 1.505 to 1.495. So it is pretty safe to say that it was a true 1-1/2" 2x4.

The next question was whether I may have a non-spec blade. So I removed the blade and verified it was listed as a 160mm blade. I then measured the blade tooth-to-tooth and also fount it to be exactly 160mm.

At the time I made the cut, I did not clamp the rail. I did not push down abnormally. I did nothing abnormal. It was actually just a quick practice cut because it was the first time the saw was ever used. It had been sitting up in my office until just last night.

 

[awil66]

The new saw and rail look really cool, but there are plenty of framing materials that require a deeper than 2" cut at a 90 like TGIs.  I think the saw will provide a lot of utility for many situations, but there will always be situations that require a different saw.  I wonder if the rail is long enough to do a plumb cut on a 2x12.  For framing interior spaces on remodels where there isn't a lot of room for setting up a miter saw and cut station, it would probably be an ideal way of getting a great, quick cut.

I thought it would be great for cutting TJIs with the rail on. Even a 360 or a 560, with the joist laying flat cut across the top (actually the side ) then nip off the top and bottom. On the rail the depth of cut will still cut the web of the joist, perfectly square. And often TJIs come with only one end cut square, the other not. It would be nice to just square the end rather than turning some of those longer bad boys around.

 

[Ajax]

Could have used the HKC55 today.  Did a lot of cross cuts on my TS 55 while patching up some siding and soffits along a roofline.  Lots of wiggling about with the TS 55 on a plywood board stretched across two saw horses.  I should have brought my miter saw but I wanted to pack light.  The HKC would have kicked butt.

 

[Tyler Ernsberger]

Could have used the HKC55 today.  Did a lot of cross cuts on my TS 55 while patching up some siding and soffits along a roofline.  Lots of wiggling about with the TS 55 on a plywood board stretched across two saw horses.  I should have brought my miter saw but I wanted to pack light.  The HKC would have kicked butt.

It will work great for boxing materials. 

 

[Jozsef Kozma]

I been using my HKC for a year
It is my most used tool
I did very limited cuts on the rails with the blade in 45 but never had a clean cut
Thanks for the suggestion about the bigger blade
Look forward to see corded model

 

[Tyler Ernsberger]

I really feel like Festool needs to resolve the issue with the cutting depth and they need to research a bigger blade.  I'm sorry its not a construction saw if it can't cut 45° bevel in 2x material.  I was excited about using this saw for cutting roofs but it can't do it.  I feel like there's going to be a lot of disappointed people with this saw, resulting in a lot of returns. 

[member=57769]TylerC[/member]

 

[Shane Holland]

All, just a reminder that the new HK/HKC 55, SysLite DUO and DWC 18 drywall gun are in stock and ready to ship on Monday, 9/12.

Pre-order yours today from FestoolProducts.com!

 

[TylerC]

I really feel like Festool needs to resolve the issue with the cutting depth and they need to research a bigger blade.  I'm sorry its not a construction saw if it can't cut 45° bevel in 2x material.  I was excited about using this saw for cutting roofs but it can't do it.  I feel like there's going to be a lot of disappointed people with this saw, resulting in a lot of returns. 

[member=57769]TylerC[/member]

A larger blade is not feasible in the HK/HKC. I wouldn't anticipate a change any time in the near future.

(Sorry for the delayed response. I'm on vacation this week.)

 

[Shane Holland]

The new HK/HKC 55, SysLite DUO and DWC 18 drywall gun are in stock and start shipping to customers tomorrow.

Order yours today from FestoolProducts.com!

 

[blk65brd]

Just curious if those that attended Connect were able to get their questions answered by using this saw or at the least seeing it demonstrated at a 45 degree angle cut on a 2 X piece of wood, thanks in advance for the answers on this.

 

[Brice Burrell]

Just curious if those that attended Connect were able to get their questions answered by using this saw or at the least seeing it demonstrated at a 45 degree angle cut on a 2 X piece of wood, thanks in advance for the answers on this.

It does cut through but leaves a small nib behind, see pictures posted by Rick earlier in this thread.  The "offcut" piece is clean.

 

[Michael Kellough]

Just curious if those that attended Connect were able to get their questions answered by using this saw or at the least seeing it demonstrated at a 45 degree angle cut on a 2 X piece of wood, thanks in advance for the answers on this.

It does cut through but leaves a small nib behind, see pictures posted by Rick earlier in this thread.  The "offcut" piece is clean.

Doesn't the TS/TSC 55 have the same limitation?