[NEW] Festool TID 18 Impact Driver + Combo Kits Coming July 1st - ORDER NOW (US)

[Shane Holland]

For anyone interested in the range of Festool drills, here's a video posted only a few days ago going over the various tools. The TID 18 is near the end around the 40-minute mark.

 

[Bhend18]

Will it be possible to get the impact only with the combo systainer?  I already own a PDC and would like to have both drills in one systainer. If I recall Festool offered something like that in the past.

 

[Shane Holland]

Will it be possible to get the impact only with the combo systainer?  I already own a PDC and would like to have both drills in one systainer. If I recall Festool offered something like that in the past.

[member=10890]Bhend18[/member] Festool USA offers the inserts as spare parts. HOWEVER, the Systainer3 is not available in the U.S. separately at the moment. So, eventually, you would be able to get both. No ETA on the new Systainers at this time.

 

[rexdp10]

been waiting on this to get into the Festool 18v game...seems like the "deal" is to get the t18 e with batteries and then buy the TID bare.  Two systainers, and still cheaper than the T18/TID set...am I missing something? 

 

[Shane Holland]

been waiting on this to get into the Festool 18v game...seems like the "deal" is to get the t18 e with batteries and then buy the TID bare.  Two systainers, and still cheaper than the T18/TID set...am I missing something?

[member=69885]rexdp10[/member] The T18 E (Easy) does not support the Centrotec chuck system. The chuck is fixed and cannot be removed. So, it's not identical to the T18 that comes in the combo kit. If you don't need the interchangeable chucks, the T18 E may be the right choice for you.

 

[Bhend18]

Will it be possible to get the impact only with the combo systainer?  I already own a PDC and would like to have both drills in one systainer. If I recall Festool offered something like that in the past.

[member=10890]Bhend18[/member] Festool USA offers the inserts as spare parts. HOWEVER, the Systainer3 is not available in the U.S. separately at the moment. So, eventually, you would be able to get both. No ETA on the new Systainers at this time.

Will the insert fit the T-Loc systainer?

 

[Shane Holland]

Will the insert fit the T-Loc systainer?

[member=10890]Bhend18[/member] I am going to have to ask some of our forum friends to answer this question. I'm not 100% sure of the compatibility between T-LOC and Sys Gen 3 inserts. I know the footprint is the same but unsure if any internal changes would be an issue. Or, potentially the height which has changed.

Maybe [member=71429]DerickC[/member] or [member=101]Festool USA[/member] can answer including potential availability of the insert as a spare part.

 

[yetihunter]

These prices are in line with massive multinationals, hundreds of times the size of Festool, that are large enough to spread smaller margins and manufacture in countries with low wages and minimal health, safety and environmental regulations.  I’m very impressed. 

 

[mrboult]

Will it be possible to get the impact only with the combo systainer?  I already own a PDC and would like to have both drills in one systainer. If I recall Festool offered something like that in the past.

[member=10890]Bhend18[/member] Festool USA offers the inserts as spare parts. HOWEVER, the Systainer3 is not available in the U.S. separately at the moment. So, eventually, you would be able to get both. No ETA on the new Systainers at this time.

Will the insert fit the T-Loc systainer?

The insert for my TID 18 will fit into a T-loc Systainer. It’s very tight, but no damage was done inserting and removing it.

 

[Jeff Zanin]

been waiting on this to get into the Festool 18v game...seems like the "deal" is to get the t18 e with batteries and then buy the TID bare.  Two systainers, and still cheaper than the T18/TID set...am I missing something?

[member=69885]rexdp10[/member] The T18 E (Easy) does not support the Centrotec chuck system. The chuck is fixed and cannot be removed. So, it's not identical to the T18 that comes in the combo kit. If you don't need the interchangeable chucks, the T18 E may be the right choice for you.

The TID + T18 bundle seems a bit odd - you get the drill with the FastFix interface but only the keyless chuck, not the offset, right angle or even Centrotec.  To me it seems like a bundle with the TID and T18E (fixed keyless chuck) would make more sense especially for the U.S. & Canada market where Centrotec bits are much less common than conventional round or hex shank bits.

As best I can tell the only way to get the TID + T18E is to get each separately, maybe one set and one bare tool.  But you end up paying for an additional Systainer and I am not sure if either of the separate items has an insert suitable for both tools.

 

[mrboult]

These prices are in line with massive multinationals, hundreds of times the size of Festool, that are large enough to spread smaller margins and manufacture in countries with low wages and minimal health, safety and environmental regulations.  I’m very impressed.

Wow the prices are amazing! The Drill kit prices are less Dollars than our UK prices in Pounds! And that’s after the notable dealer discount!

Examples:

TID18 & T18 kit:
US Price $549
UK Price £584  /  RRP £756

TID18 & PDC kit:
US Price $599
UK Price £723  /  RRP £928

There seems to be some slight variation in what comes with it, mostly that we still have the 3.1ah batteries in some kits.

It’s suddenly clear why the festool Impact took so long I think. Drills and impacts really are the key to getting people to buy your cordless tools, unless it’sa very specialised tool. Until now festool haven’t been able to persuade many people because of their expensive drills and no impact driver.
To make a sales pitch as big as the one they’re about to make in the US this July, I reckon  they’ve spent the last few years hammering the crap out of their impact driver to make absolutely sure the whole investment isn’t based around a weak link that will break them in repair costs.
They’ve mentioned toughness several times in the TID marketing material too.

 

[Doug S]

Yes you guys are getting an absolute bargain.

I just paid almost as much in the UK for a body only Makita impact (not even their flagship model) as you guys are paying for the body only Festool impact and you get a systainer thrown in  [crying]

If our prices were the same in the UK I would be back on the Festool cordless platform.

 

[nclemmons]

The web page says, 'Bare Tool' for $199, but shows it with a Systainer.

Does it ship with a Systainer, [member=48572]Shane Holland[/member] ?

Thanks!

 

[Shane Holland]

The web page says, 'Bare Tool' for $199, but shows it with a Systainer.

Does it ship with a Systainer, [member=48572]Shane Holland[/member] ?

Yes, sir, it comes with a Systainer for $199. Bare tool is our language for saying no batteries or charger. [member=167]neilc[/member]

 

[sancho57]

[member=48572]Shane Holland[/member],

If I buy the basic, will my bateries for the C12/C18 work with this impact?

 

[Rob Lee]

Hi -

If you're looking at more than one of these drills - it is worth your while to study the combinations, as the upcharge for the "plus" kits (which include two batteries and a charger) varies from product to product....

For example - T18+3 Easy plus bought with TID Basic would cost $498. Buying T18+3 Easy Basic and TID 18 Plus would cost $548 - and you get exactly the same products either way.

The T18+3 Plus kit is really the odd man out here, at $499. For $498, you could get the TID18 and the T18+3 Easy with two batteries and a charger. This is the best deal (I think).

Or, for $549 - you can get the T18+3 and the TID with two batteries and a charger.... but only one chuck between the two drills, and both in the SYS3 M 237. I don't really see the appeal of this kit. A second chuck will set you back $40-80, and both chucks that would come with either T18+3 kit would add $118 (total cost $667) which is more than buying the TID 18 plus kit and the T18+3 basic kit at $648 - which would come in two SYS3 M 187's.

Hopefully I got all the model numbers and prices correct... it isn't very intuitive to work out, and the nomenclature chosen sure doesn't help....

Cheers -

Rob

 

[yetihunter]

Yes you guys are getting an absolute bargain.

I just paid almost as much in the UK for a body only Makita impact (not even their flagship model) as you guys are paying for the body only Festool impact and you get a systainer thrown in  [crying]

If our prices were the same in the UK I would be back on the Festool cordless platform.

I just paid almost $200 for the XDT16/DTD171 in December and anything longer than a 50mm bit starts doing windmills.

 

[yetihunter]

Hi -

If you're looking at more than one of these drills - it is worth your while to study the combinations, as the upcharge for the "plus" kits (which include two batteries and a charger) varies from product to product....

For example - T18+3 Easy plus bought with TID Basic would cost $498. Buying T18+3 Easy Basic and TID 18 Plus would cost $548 - and you get exactly the same products either way.

The T18+3 Plus kit is really the odd man out here, at $499. For $498, you could get the TID18 and the T18+3 Easy with two batteries and a charger. This is the best deal (I think).

Or, for $549 - you can get the T18+3 and the TID with two batteries and a charger.... but only one chuck between the two drills, and both in the SYS3 M 237. I don't really see the appeal of this kit. A second chuck will set you back $40-80, and both chucks that would come with either T18+3 kit would add $118 (total cost $667) which is more than buying the TID 18 plus kit and the T18+3 basic kit at $648 - which would come in two SYS3 M 187's.

Hopefully I got all the model numbers and prices correct... it isn't very intuitive to work out, and the nomenclature chosen sure doesn't help....

Cheers -

Rob

The way I figured it is:

PDC combo = PDC Kit + impact driver for $50 (save $150)
T18 combo = T18 Kit + impact driver for $50  (save $150)
Impact driver kit = 2 batteries and charger + impact driver for $35 (save $165)

I’m not including the less 1 Systainer into the equation because the $7 insert that holds both a drill and an impact is priceless for onsite/mobile.  Empty Systainers keep going up in price, so I understand why others would look at that differently from a pure dollar value perspective.

The new $499 T18 plus does not come with the right angle and eccentric chuck.  You get the same rohm keyless chuck and centrotec chuck with the T18 basic, plus and impact combo.

In an odd twist, the PDC 18 basic (bare tool) now comes WITH the previously additional $100+
right angle chuck along with the rohm keyless and centrotec.  This is included with the Basic, Plus and Impact combo. 

More confused than before?  [big grin]

EDIT:  Wait a minute.  Do the combination TID18 + T18/PDC18 kits not include a centrotec chuck and bit holder?  They are specifically absent from the photo mock up and from the description.  Festool usually has one of the two incorrect on their products, I know, but...both details leading to an absence..

 

[denovo]

Or, for $549 - you can get the T18+3 and the TID with two batteries and a charger.... but only one chuck between the two drills, and both in the SYS3 M 237. I don't really see the appeal of this kit.

Cheers -

Rob

The kit certainly doesn't make sense; why sell the regular T18 with only 1 chuck?  It doesn't highlight the benefit of the replaceable chucks or centrotec.  They would have been better off bundling the T18 easy with the TID 18 and then the price point would be just a bit more then the milwaukee drill/impact kit with 5AH batteries and packout case.  The milwaukee drill and impact are both unrefined so Festool would have a winner to convert people over to their brand.  Seems like a missed opportunity.

What happened to the T18/C18 kits will all the different chucks?  I was waiting for that kit with the updated 4.0 batteries

 

[Skibum009]

Just my luck I bought a TSC 55 Set as a pre-tax season motivation gift to myself for $860, haven't even turned in on and they go and "beat the price increase" by April 1st as i had intended by selling the same saw with an impact for $15 more?

Is the TSC 55 576816 any difference than the 575690 that i purchased?