New festool tid18 impact

[serge0n]

From what I can see here it only takes standard hex bits, not centrotec.

Looks like I was wrong, the bit retaining portion is too shallow for a Centrotec bit. That's a bummer if true.
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Seriously?  I have one. No problem doing that even with 1.5 aH 12v battery instead of 15v. 

Maybe something was wrong with my tool? I was screwing a pair of 3/4" pine boards to the bottom of 2x8 joists in the basement using 2.5" #9 GRK screws and Ti15 couldn't do it. I had 15v 3.0 Ah Li-Ion battery installed. A 12v Hilti had no problem finishing the job.
And the failure to drive fasteners was not the only instance. I loved the electronic clutch, so it was sad to see Ti15 go, but it's performance was absolutely abysmal. I got a C15 a few months back and really enjoying it. It got loads more power than my old Ti15.

 

[pingvinlakrits]

I can't see myself ever getting a "noisy" impact

[member=2085]Henrik R / Pingvinlakrits[/member] Are there less noisy impacts now?

Yes, a few. I am not sure if Hitachi/Hikoki were first but they have a very nice one with a superb grip that has been out for a quite a few years already. I got my unit from Japan though they are available in Europe (just not in my country...). It is very quiet and I don't need to use ear protection with it. Quite strong but it is not for very large screws or bolts. After getting I am no longer waiting on the Festool impact. The Hitachi quiet immpact fits my work perfectly.

 

[Sanderxpander]

Makita makes an oil pressure based one that's supposed to be quieter too.

 

[AlexThePalex]

If it only takes standard bits maybe that is part of the reason behind the Centrotec Rapidapter that is coming out? To help compatibility across the line.

Not related. The Centrotec Rapidapter doesn't fit the impact driver. It was simply time for an updated adapter because the old one just sucks.

Looks like I was wrong, the bit retaining portion is too shallow for a Centrotec bit. That's a bummer if true.

Why? Why would you even need centrotec in the impact driver?

First, centrotec is not impact rated, and second, you only need ball-detent hex bits for the impact driver, nothing else. It is already a quick change system, and the bits for it are readily available.

 

[semenza]

If it only takes standard bits maybe that is part of the reason behind the Centrotec Rapidapter that is coming out? To help compatibility across the line.

Not related. The Centrotec Rapidapter doesn't fit the impact driver. It was simply time for an updated adapter because the old one just sucks.

Looks like I was wrong, the bit retaining portion is too shallow for a Centrotec bit. That's a bummer if true.

Why? Why would you even need centrotec in the impact driver?

First, centrotec is not impact rated, and second, you only need ball-detent hex bits for the impact driver, nothing else. It is already a quick change system, and the bits for it are readily available.

  Intentionally  related or not ...........................  it  is  related.  Think the other way around. The Centrotec Rapidapter makes standard bits of all types compatible with the Centrotec on Festool drills.  So the ball detent bits for the impact work in the Festool drills.

  The older Festool adapters are not as good and only hold one type of standard bit (wire or ball).

Seth

 

[semenza]

Seriously?  I have one. No problem doing that even with 1.5 aH 12v battery instead of 15v. 

Maybe something was wrong with my tool? I was screwing a pair of 3/4" pine boards to the bottom of 2x8 joists in the basement using 2.5" #9 GRK screws and Ti15 couldn't do it. I had 15v 3.0 Ah Li-Ion battery installed. A 12v Hilti had no problem finishing the job.
And the failure to drive fasteners was not the only instance. I loved the electronic clutch, so it was sad to see Ti15 go, but it's performance was absolutely abysmal. I got a C15 a few months back and really enjoying it. It got loads more power than my old Ti15.

  Just to follow up on this...........................

    I didn't do a longevity / quantity test which obviously would not be that great with a 1.5ah 12v battery as compared to a 15v or large 18v. But  here are a couple pics of a #10 x 3 1/8" GRK driven into 3" of maple. No pre drilling.  The battery (1.5 ah, 12v) had just gone from three lights to two lights on the charge indicator. Timed it twice at 10 sec. Maybe not real fast but it was not struggling either. After starting the screw for about 1/2" I used just one hand on the driver. The time includes the screw starting.

 

    I don't do a lot of impact driving just a few screws here and there. I am sure  that an 18v in most brands would out perform the old 15v Festool. But I do think something must have been wrong with the one you had.

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Seth

 

[demographic]

Looks Ok and doesn't have that spazzy flippy outy belt hook thing either.
Having that as part of the range makes me much more inclined to buy the other drill.
I've already got the HKC saw which has been a constant use tool since I bought it.
Not so fussed about the SDS drill mind as it doesnt offer as much as the competition.

 

[pingvinlakrits]

Makita makes an oil pressure based one that's supposed to be quieter too.

Last week I brought my Hikoki/Hitachi quiet oil impact driver for a showdown to a local dealer. We tested it against Makita and Milwaukee Surge (12 and 18V) and to boil it down to the bare minimum:

Hikoki/Hitachi is the quietest one, closely followed by Makita. Both are really quiet and both feels good in use. I am biased towards my Hitachi since I love the grip and ergonomics. It also has a self tapping screw mode that avoids snapping screws.

Also, the store disclosed openly that they have had a few Makita "leakers" already, which is, oil leaking from the Makita impact.

The Surge oil impacts where both so much louder I would not put them in the same category as the Hikoki/Makita. They are not as loud as the standard impact drivers but they are still a bit noisy in comparison to Makita/Hikoki.

I have a video with all four of them driving the same size screw but I have it uploaded to another site and don't think FOG allows for linking to a "competing" site.

 

[sancho57]

I had a chat with one of the Festool trainers a month or so ago. He really like this impact. He told me that unlike most festools this one will be competively priced due to the market haveing so many different brands with them being sold.

I still think it will be more expensive but what festool isn't. Just not that much more expensive.

I need a impact so Ill prolly end up getting one.

 

[pingvinlakrits]

If the price is competitive that is great. It should be.
I think the C18 and T18 basic models are competitively priced without batteries and since it has no drill chuck I am guessing it would be on par or (wishful thinking) slightly below the C/T18 basic models.

Festool will probably offer a dual combo with a custom insert for a C/T/DRC and the impact. That would be great.

It would not be for me personally if it isn't quiet, but if it is a noisy rattler it would still be useful to some and a welcome addition to the line up.