New TXS drill

[Staniam]

Hey Alex, at what point did I assume everyone has the same preferences as me? I literally used phrases like "if you prefer" and "I like". I think I even said whatever you prefer. At any rate, I was simply stating what I prefer and my opinion on the TXS. So, moving on...

 

[Birdhunter]

The T18 has a new type of Jacob's chuck that isn't supposed to require a lot of force to tighten enough to retain dril bits.

Does the TSX have this feature?

Would my CSX accessories fit the TSX?

 

[Holzhacker]

Hmm if the cxs is going to go away I may need to actually buy one for myself instead of as gifts for others. With a T15 and two C12's buying another drill is hard to justify

 

[sae]

They just updated the CXS for 2015, what makes you think it's going away?

 

[pingvinlakrits]

The CXS won't go away - it will use the same 2.6Ah battery as the TXS though the TXS won't be able to use the old 1.3/1.5Ah batteries. Same charger as before.

I am not sure they have changed the CXS other than the battery (still compatible with the older stick batteries) though I had hoped that the CXS/TXS would have brushless motors. I have gotten a vague promise that they will start shipping in February and before then we should know for sure.

I am not getting the TXS but will get two CXS drills. With the slightly larger chuck and 2.6Ah batteries I will retire my old NiMH C12 I have at home and replace one of my CXS drills at work.  It would be great if they turn out to be brushless - which is what a sales rep told me - he might have gotten that wrong but I didn't specifically ask about it. I would be a little surprised if they weren't considering Bosch has released brushless 10.8V drills and the competition is fierce. Milwaukee 12V quick change drill is also a hot item over here - replicating the angle/elbow chuck, off center chuck and bit chuck; you can even keep the bit on the bit chuck while drilling pilot holes with the drill chuck which actually is very handy and even swifter of course. Also, I think you can get 4Ah batteries for it as well. Personally I think the M12 is a niece piece of kit but it is too large to replace the CXS for me. The CXS has its place in being _very_small and performing "well".

All things considered the CXS/TXS  would benefit from being brushless but if the specs are correct at Axminster (16Nm) I doubt it. But the specs could be subject to change of course. 

I am happy to see that the CXS will be upgraded in two out of three areas of concern for me: ditching the 'too small' chuck, higher Ah battery. And if we are lucky: they will be brushless.

 

[Phil Beckley]

Hi
The C.X.S stays in the line up along side the T.X.S...........and both keep the same motor unit - not brushless.
rg
Phil

 

[sancho57]

Hmmmmm I wonder if this means thhey are going to drop the price on the old style CXS. It is a kewl little drill.

 

[Stone Message]

Hmmmmm I wonder if this means thhey are going to drop the price on the old style CXS. It is a kewl little drill.

I agree with Ron - the original CXS is a lovely tool and I am so pleased with mine. Even though the upgraded version has been announced I do not regret getting the original - it is my "go to" drill driver.

Peter

 

[Gary in Texas]

Hmmmmm I wonder if this means thhey are going to drop the price on the old style CXS. It is a kewl little drill.

Nah, they will charge more for the new version and TXS, primarily due to battery upgrade....  You should know how this works by now...... [eek]

 

[cue003]

It would be great if they turn out to be brushless - which is what a sales rep told me - he might have gotten that wrong but I didn't specifically ask about it. I would be a little surprised if they weren't considering Bosch has released brushless 10.8V drills and the competition is fierce. Milwaukee 12V quick change drill is also a hot item over here - replicating the angle/elbow chuck, off center chuck and bit chuck; you can even keep the bit on the bit chuck while drilling pilot holes with the drill chuck which actually is very handy and even swifter of course. Also, I think you can get 4Ah batteries for it as well. Personally I think the M12 is a niece piece of kit but it is too large to replace the CXS for me. The CXS has its place in being _very_small and performing "well".

I hardly ever see any mention or review of the csx vs the competition such as Milwaukee m12, the Bosch or dewalt. Why is that?  A review vs the other 12v powerhouses would be very much welcomed.

 

[NHSP759]

I think that's like comparing apples  to oranges. With the right angle chuck it's like a totally different tool. Don't get me wrong I'm a big fan Milwaukee tools and even have a few Dewalt tools in my shop but the CXS is not a regular drill so to speak. Now when Milwaukee introduces their new M12 with the similar chucks offered on the CXS that'd would be a pretty interesting comparison. For cheaper money you can get the Brushless M12 Drill which I owned and sold. That drill had more power than my CXS, almost comparable to an 18v when using the 4.0 batteries but my CXS is WAY smaller and versatile when building projects. Like I said though...I love my Milwaukee tools it's just this drill really, in my opinion, differs from other 12v drills when you look at the set as a whole.

 

[NHSP759]

Oh and one more thing! One of the members here, Peter Parfitt, did a great overview of the Centrotec system and the differences between standard drill bits and the Centrotec system. Really interesting when you look at HOW a drill screws with the different systems and that I think would also play into the comparison both as a positive (incredible accuracy and stability) and as a negative (cost and replacing a but lineup). Hope this helps in your question!

 

[wow]

I hardly ever see any mention or review of the csx vs the competition such as Milwaukee m12, the Bosch or dewalt. Why is that?  A review vs the other 12v powerhouses would be very much welcomed.

I have most of the M12 line of drills and drivers. If somebody wants to send me a CXS I'll do a good, honest review and comparison.

 

[mike_aa]

I think that's like comparing apples  to oranges. With the right angle chuck it's like a totally different tool. Don't get me wrong I'm a big fan Milwaukee tools and even have a few Dewalt tools in my shop but the CXS is not a regular drill so to speak. Now when Milwaukee introduces their new M12 with the similar chucks offered on the CXS that'd would be a pretty interesting comparison. For cheaper money you can get the Brushless M12 Drill which I owned and sold. That drill had more power than my CXS, almost comparable to an 18v when using the 4.0 batteries but my CXS is WAY smaller and versatile when building projects. Like I said though...I love my Milwaukee tools it's just this drill really, in my opinion, differs from other 12v drills when you look at the set as a whole.

ChrisK1970,
Have you seen this Milwaukee M12?  I don't think it's AINA as of yet.

I still really like my CXS, though.
Mike A.

 

[NHSP759]

Yeah that's the one I was talking about! Figures....but you KNOW it'll be NAINA when it comes out! I believe Bosch is getting one too! When those guys come out that'll be a really interesting comparison. But the. Again when they become AINA I'll have a flying car. And one of those star Trekkie insta food gizmos

Like you though....I love my CXS. That is just an awesome little drill and yesterday I replaced my throat plate on my Kapex. I used my CXS for this really dumb little task after scraping my knuckles on the blade guard while using my toolie. I love that little guy!

 

[GPowers]

[popcorn] waiting for us release

 

[pingvinlakrits]

Ok, now the TXS and CXS is on the Swedish website in an online flip leaflet.

TXS available as Set/Plus.
CXS "facelift" available as Set/Plus.
CXS/TXS 2.6Ah battery available for the old CXS.

Festool set/part numbers are online.

From what I can judge by the online photos:

There is no battery level indicator on the battery; it is on the drill, by the LED light on both machines. 

So the CXS "facelift" is the new LED/Battery status indicator. Everything else seems to be the same - i.e. no brushless.  [sad]

One thing that strikes me: the TXS is actually whole lot taller than the CXS, that for me tips it over to replacing my oldest CXS with the facelift CXS. The small format is what makes the drill for me. 

Also, the belt clip is _much_better on the CXS. The TXS belt clip is much shorter and I know what that means thank you very much. (Was that a C15 dropping again in the background )The CXS belt clip is way better.

Three things have the CXS over the TXS for me:
Bit garage up front + larger than on the TXS.
Smaller footprint.
Better belt clip.

I might settle for one new 2.6Ah battery for my other CXS though I would like that 10mm chuck on that too. Might get a CXS Set and a Plus and keep one of the old CXS drills.

Look forward to getting the new version, I use the CXS more often than I had thought.

 

[neeleman]

According to my information which is also taken from the "We will rock you" folder Festool has put on on their websites in Europe since last week. The new 2,6 Ah batteries have a capacity indicator and it's NOT on the body of the new models CXS and TXS.
So when using the new batteries on the old CXS you can have the battery indicator available because it's build in the battery.

It's also a complain about using Festool batteries on f.i. the Carvex or DWC that you cannot check the battery capacity while mounted on the machines because the 12/15/18V batteries itself have no build in capacity indicator.
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[NHSP759]

Well that is awesome for the guy (or gal) that wants to keep his CXS! I really only have that one gripe and that's the fuel gauge. The larger chuck would be nice too. Hooray for Festool for allowing the CXS to be "upgraded"!

 

[neeleman]

Why do you wait for the 10 mm chuck on the new CXS/TXS if you already can use the 13 mm Jacobs chuck from the C15 drill on the CXS?
The Jacobs chucks (8-10-13 mm) are interchangeable with FastFix between all drills!
And the 1-10 mm Jacobs chuck (BF-FX 10) is available since at least 2007 (maybe sooner) because it was included with the original C12 NiCd drill.