New TXS drill

[Stone Message]

Please stop these nonsense, it has nothing to do with news about the TXS drill.

It's way more interesting than the drill.

Yes, we did drill in the Canadian Army, and we are talking about drill!

But neeleman is right - I hate my threads getting side tracked, and I am really interested in the new CXS. I am not so sure about the TXS.

Peter

 

[dltflt]

Please stop these nonsense, it has nothing to do with news about the TXS drill.

But it was a good story.

 

[Stephen B]

Please stop these nonsense, it has nothing to do with news about the TXS drill.

But it was a good story.

http://festoolownersgroup.com/feedback-on-administration/was-on-a-project-amost-two-years-and-can't-find-the-fog-i-remember/msg360640/#msg360640

 

[#Tee]

I just don't see a lot of thought put into this TXS. I mean obviously people are paid to design these tools so plenty of thought is put into them but I feel like the TXS gives me no reason to buy it. I'm much more interested in selling my current CXS kit and buying the updated version of the CXS.

i agree, theres no reason for me to pick this over the t18 other than its 1.9lbs. its another battery platform to buy. the battery indicator for the latest greatest csx is more appealing.

 

[Phil Beckley]

Incidentally, the CSX stands up quite nicely, although with the battery being so light it is a little easier to knock over.
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The new battery is 62mm in width so when setting it down less chance of falling over.
rg
Phil

 

[JBird]

I just don't see a lot of thought put into this TXS. I mean obviously people are paid to design these tools so plenty of thought is put into them but I feel like the TXS gives me no reason to buy it. I'm much more interested in selling my current CXS kit and buying the updated version of the CXS.

The TXS and new CXS are identical except for the handle. They have the exact same capabilities. The "reasons to buy" a TXS are the same as the reasons to buy the CXS. So it seems odd to say you like the new CXS enough to upgrade from the current CXS, but don't like the TXS.

All we are seeing here is the same segmentation Festool uses on the larger drills. In NA at least, the T drills appear to be more popular than the C drills. So I would not be surprised to see the TXS become more popular than the CXS.

 

[sae]

Is CXS the most misspelled acronym in the history of the planet?

And it looks like TXS is next too.  [tongue]

 

[Stone Message]

Is CXS the most misspelled acronym in the history of the planet?

And it looks like TXS is next too.  [tongue]

I am sure that the TXS will be spoken as "Texas".

Peter

 

[Peterm]

I am sure that the TXS will be spoken as "Texas".

Peter

As in "Don't mess with TXS" ?  [big grin] Seriously, I'm a little surprised at the amount of hostility displayed towards this - though I seem to remember something similar when the CXS was launched as well. Personally I'd welcome a broader line of 10.8v tools from Festool - I have a number of the Bosch 10.8v tools and they're very handy, with batteries up to 4.0Ah now as well...

Cheers, Pete

 

[sae]

I agree, I'd love to see more lightweight 10.8/12v tools on the market now that lithium batteries can provide the power density that makes it much more feasible.

I wonder what Bosch has that's NAINA, their 12v lineup here isn't incredibly broad, which leads me to believe they're not importing some stuff. Maybe that's a separate thread though.

 

[Stone Message]

I agree with Pete and sae...

I have a professional woodworking friend who is a Festool user keeps reminding me that if you have the machine in your hand for more than an hour a day or more than 2 minutes at a time then it needs to be light yet powerful enough for the task in hand.

I think Festool know about this and hence the new developments.

Peter

 

[Peterm]

Just to add - it goes without saying that a broader line of 10.8v tools would make no sense without a common battery. Hmmm...

 

[dutchie]

I was only just thinking, it would be also be great if on the new CXS and TXS the light would stay on for a few seconds after you've released the trigger. My Makita's do have this feature and it is quite nice...

 

[BMH]

I concur power to weight ratio is important if you are going to handle a tool for long period of time. The CXS is my favorite drill for that reason and the TS55 over the TS 75.

 

[greg mann]

Just to add - it goes without saying that a broader line of 10.8v tools would make no sense without a common battery. Hmmm...

The CXS battery shape doesn't lend itself to other tools as well as the TXS might. Perhaps that might be an additional driver for the introduction.

 

[gsdvorak]

The TXS looks interesting but will wait to pass judgement on it until I have one in hand.  I'm not sure, however, if there's a need for another drill in my arsenal.  I have a T18 and CXS and absolutely love them- I'm not sure there is a use I cannot accomplish with this pair.  I'm not going to get too excited yet- it'll probably be NAINA.

I thought there was still a reason to keep my Bosch drills around, but they haven't left their cases in quite some time so I'll be selling them after the first of the year. 

Gerald

 

[Staniam]

I just don't see a lot of thought put into this TXS. I mean obviously people are paid to design these tools so plenty of thought is put into them but I feel like the TXS gives me no reason to buy it. I'm much more interested in selling my current CXS kit and buying the updated version of the CXS.

The TXS and new CXS are identical except for the handle. They have the exact same capabilities. The "reasons to buy" a TXS are the same as the reasons to buy the CXS. So it seems odd to say you like the new CXS enough to upgrade from the current CXS, but don't like the TXS.

All we are seeing here is the same segmentation Festool uses on the larger drills. In NA at least, the T drills appear to be more popular than the C drills. So I would not be surprised to see the TXS become more popular than the CXS.

You kind of answered why it seems odd to you, if they have the same capabilities (just a few new modifications) them what point is there to change from the C style to the T style? There is none unless you prefer the T style. I'll never buy a C style drill when it comes to a more standard size drill (15v or higher) but for a small drill such as a 12v or 10v, I like the CXS.

So I suppose it's preference in this particular size range that gives me no reason to purchase the TXS as opposed to the new version CXS.

And honestly, the TXS just doesn't look cool  [eek]

 

[duburban]

PM me for an address to send rejected CXSs to.

 

[AlexThePalex]

You kind of answered why it seems odd to you, if they have the same capabilities (just a few new modifications) them what point is there to change from the C style to the T style? There is none unless you prefer the T style.

You kind of answered your own question. Might come as a surprise to you, but some people actually prefer the T style. Kind of short sightedness to assume what you like is what everybody likes.

And honestly, the TXS just doesn't look cool  [eek]

Everybody got his own preferences. I don't buy tools for their looks but for their purpose. I have thought about getting a CXS but the C style put me off, making the drill bigger than I'd like for a compact drill. I still think the battery of the TXS is a bit too big too, but I'd be a lot more tempted to buy it than the CXS.

Owning a T15 and a C12 I've found it is a lot easier to get the T drill in odd places than the C drill.

 

[wow]

Owning a T15 and a C12 I've found it is a lot easier to get the T drill in odd places than the C drill.

I think this is the reason that most manufacturer's offer (or ONLY offer) the 'T' style drill.

I don't own either a C or T type Festool drill, but I did own one of the very first ever 'T' drills, which was introduced by Panasonic. At the time it was revolutionary, as every prior drill had been what I call the 'Black and Decker' pistol style. The feel of the 'T' style was AMAZING in comparison.

It wasn't long before everyone started copying it to one degree or another, until now it is the 'standard' drill style sold by most manufacturers - at least in their cordless models. Since Festool offers their other models in the 'T' configuration, it only makes sense that they would offer a smaller, lighter version as well.

I am baffled, though, by their decision to make the batteries in the CXS and TXS incompatible, Since it's nearly the new year, I'll go ahead and make a prediction: I predict that the CXS will either be replaced with an upgraded model that uses the same battery as the new TXS, or it will be discontinued by the end of 2015.

Anyone care to place a friendly bet?