New Zero Clearance Fence for Kapex (The Cube)

[Colliflower]

Greetings! Here are the two videos comparing the dust collection for the Cube and the stock base. As noted previously, I couldn't be happier with the result.
Cube dust collection:
Stock dust collection:

 

[Colliflower]

You have done an excellent job by approaching zero clearance completely different than anyone has seen before. The whole key to your product is easy replacement once a block is worn out and no reduction in cutting size. Well done.

Thank you. Just posted a video showing dust collection. Very good.

 

[Colliflower]

There seems to be issues posting video. If you go to YouTube and type in "Colliflower-ZCI", you will find it.

 

[Colliflower]

Trying to link one last time....
(Sorry for all the posts)

 

[HarveyWildes]

Any plans for other brands?

 

[Colliflower]

Any plans for other brands?

Hi, Harvey.
Yes, I believe so. However, it will take time. I will likely tackle the bigger DeWalts and Boschs first.
Please check back.

 

[Colliflower]

Hei,

Anything on Kapex 60 on the design table?

BR Simo

Hello, BR.
I'm not sure if it fits the 60. However, you can measure:
From the center of the left-most screw holding down your fence base plate, measuring to the right (to the center of the next mounting screw), it is approximately 3.3", then 12.93", then 4.25". If your mounting pattern is the same, this should work quite well for you.

 

[Grev]

Just switched to your replaceable ZCI system (which I really like) but have been using my own shop made fence for some time, which includes an integrated stop for repeatable narrow cuts.  All tool-less and changes out in a minute or less.  I like the concept of the Cube, but other than losing 1/4" - 1/2" in depth (hasn't been a problem) with my fences, curious what other benefits there are in using the Cube?

 

[cperren]

[member=63307]Grev[/member] - Nice fence.  Does the Festool hold-down clamps still work.. From my perspective, the beauty of the cube is the addition of ZCI fence without removing any OEM features. Basically its net positive.

-Chris 

 

[Colliflower]

Just switched to your replaceable ZCI system (which I really like) but have been using my own shop made fence for some time, which includes an integrated stop for repeatable narrow cuts.  All tool-less and changes out in a minute or less.  I like the concept of the Cube, but other than losing 1/4" - 1/2" in depth (hasn't been a problem) with my fences, curious what other benefits there are in using the Cube?

Hi, Grev.
Good question.
1.) One doesn't have to make what you made. Just bolt on/off.
2.) Although your fence gives support, it doesn't give full ZC support because you won't want to cut into your fence.
3.) Taller support/ZC
4.) Although your fence is quite nice, doesn't it function just as the stock fence except the stop?
5.) True ZC for all your angles, dedicated.
6.) ZC forever, with either the turning of the Cube or the making of another Cube.
I like your fence, Grev.
Thank you!

 

[Colliflower]

Just switched to your replaceable ZCI system (which I really like) but have been using my own shop made fence for some time, which includes an integrated stop for repeatable narrow cuts.  All tool-less and changes out in a minute or less.  I like the concept of the Cube, but other than losing 1/4" - 1/2" in depth (hasn't been a problem) with my fences, curious what other benefits there are in using the Cube?

Grev,
Do you cut into it? How is the gap when mitering?

 

[Grev]

[member=63307]Grev[/member] - Nice fence.  Does the Festool hold-down clamps still work.. From my perspective, the beauty of the cube is the addition of ZCI fence without removing any OEM features. Basically its net positive.

-Chris

I get that .. the hold-down clamp works on the 3/8" fences, but need to shave a hair off the back corner (1/16" or so) for the 1/2" fences as shown.  Does not work on the side with the slide stop, but hasn't been an issue for me.

 

[Grev]

Hi, Grev.
Good question.
1.) One doesn't have to make what you made. Just bolt on/off.
2.) Although your fence gives support, it doesn't give full ZC support because you won't want to cut into your fence.
3.) Taller support/ZC
4.) Although your fence is quite nice, doesn't it function just as the stock fence except the stop?
5.) True ZC for all your angles, dedicated.
6.) ZC forever, with either the turning of the Cube or the making of another Cube.
I like your fence, Grev.
Thank you!

I like the Cube and can see your points, I think it's an innovative idea.  I actually do cut into these to get the zci feature.  I make the extensions a little long, so I can move the fence in and make a fresh cut once in a while.  As far as your question (#4) .. answer is "not at all" .. I made the zci fence for narrow cuts and cut-offs.  As you probably know, and maybe experienced, the Kapex fence doesn't close up very tight (photo) and allows narrow cut pieces to get caught and thrown.  My shop build ZCI prevents this entirely.  Can cut repetitive small pieces without fear of them being flung .. they stay right in place.  Because I rarely cut material thicker than 1.5", I don't need a taller fence, but could make these taller if I needed that. I realize the Cube would be better for someone who cuts a lot of angles, especially using the tilt feature.

 

[Colliflower]

Hi, Grev.
Good question.
1.) One doesn't have to make what you made. Just bolt on/off.
2.) Although your fence gives support, it doesn't give full ZC support because you won't want to cut into your fence.
3.) Taller support/ZC
4.) Although your fence is quite nice, doesn't it function just as the stock fence except the stop?
5.) True ZC for all your angles, dedicated.
6.) ZC forever, with either the turning of the Cube or the making of another Cube.
I like your fence, Grev.
Thank you!

I like the Cube and can see your points, I think it's an innovative idea.  I actually do cut into these to get the zci feature.  I make the extensions a little long, so I can move the fence in and make a fresh cut once in a while.  As far as your question (#4) .. answer is "not at all" .. I made the zci fence for narrow cuts and cut-offs.  As you probably know, and maybe experienced, the Kapex fence doesn't close up very tight (photo) and allows narrow cut pieces to get caught and thrown.  My shop build ZCI prevents this entirely.  Can cut repetitive small pieces without fear of them being flung .. they stay right in place.  Because I rarely cut material thicker than 1.5", I don't need a taller fence, but could make these taller if I needed that. I realize the Cube would be better for someone who cuts a lot of angles, especially using the tilt feature.

Nice.
Yes, I was hasty in reply and didn't think your fences extended to a full ZC position. They are very nicely made. The stop is quite handy.
As I did my experiments with cutting on the Kapex without ZC, the flinging of cut-offs seemed to be even more than with other saws. This might be due to the "ramp" feature behind the blade (partially) for the dust collection, so they just don't shoot back--they shoot back and up! Your ZC for this would be very handy.
Thanks, Grev.
I'm glad you like the throat plate ZCI. Remember that when replacing the insert, flexing the insert is key to a smooth in/out.

 

[manuc]

Has anyone purchased one of these yet? I was thinking about getting one but didn’t want to drop the money to buy one until I’ve seen some reviews.

 

[Frank-Jan]

Hi, there is one on it's way to me, I am very exited to get it and will do a review after I had a chance to try it out.

I ordered a universal zero clearance fence from Jack a couple of months ago, figuring I would adapt it a little so the dustchute clears it, and it would be thinner and more stable than one I would try to make myself, and I could order some extra sliding fences from festool so I could leave the profiles glued to one pair, and swap them for bare ones if needed.
When Jack learned I would be using the fence on my kapex I got the generous offer to wait for a kapex specific version at no extra cost, which I happily accepted, and the fence is currently on it's way to Belgium.

 

[dlu]

Just switched to your replaceable ZCI system (which I really like) but have been using my own shop made fence for some time, which includes an integrated stop for repeatable narrow cuts.  All tool-less and changes out in a minute or less.  I like the concept of the Cube, but other than losing 1/4" - 1/2" in depth (hasn't been a problem) with my fences, curious what other benefits there are in using the Cube?

One huge benefit would be getting back the clearance for the hold down clamps.

 

[dlu]

Can the retaining grove be cut on the Kapex, or is the blade kerf too narrow?

Also, how much do the sliding upper wings of the fence stick out?

 

[bigshaw929]

Just ordered mine last night. Can’t wait to get this new kapex set up and streamlining some of my production processes.

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[Vondawg]

[member=72427]Colliflower[/member] ..I have the Colliflower ZCI on the Kapex and Sawstop and really like them, I have ply on mine as well and you do have to remember to re-adjust after Left/45, straight, and Right/45, ect. The Cube would eliminate that move.
I didnt see cuts being made swinging/mitering Left to Right ...it’s not just for bevel cuts, right?
Thanks