Paint Booth or Outsource?

[tjbnwi]

Thanks Scott, makes sense.

If you get a chance try cutting with a spray shield. Let me know how it works.

Tom

 

[Scott B.]

Thanks Scott, makes sense.

If you get a chance try cutting with a spray shield. Let me know how it works.

Tom

We have used them. They are helpful on exterior spraying. We do very little ext spraying, but I know bunches of contractors who do it a lot.

On interior, we could probably "rough cut" first coats that way, getting close.

Oddly, it is very rare that we spray and backroll paint on walls. Our usual process is to spray and backroll primer on ceilings and walls all at once, then shoot and backroll ceilings. Then dry cut and roll wall coats. Usually, in residential we are doing so many wall colors that its actually quicker to do it manually than to put that many color changes through a sprayer.

This week we got the rare opportunity to do wall paint because we were on a relatively small commercial job that is getting acoustic ceilings. It was fun. Commercial is so...forgiving.

I will keep an eye out for shield opportunities though. You know how we like to dabble.

 

[tjbnwi]

Thanks Scott. We did a HH home, spray cut the entire place with shields. Went really fast and turned out amazingly well.

Tom

 

[Scott B.]

Thanks Scott. We did a HH home, spray cut the entire place with shields. Went really fast and turned out amazingly well.

Tom

I bet it could be pretty good, especially if there wasn't alot of contrast between wall and lid colors.

 

[lumbajac]

By the way Scott... Your Top Coat Review of W&W is what really sold me on picking up a can this week.  I wish i had known about it when we were re-doing the trim and case work!!  Would have saved me a ton of aggregation...

live and learn, live and learn...

Thanks for all of the advise.

cheers

BK, thanks. We just share what works and doesn't work for us, and it's all real world based from our projects. Glad you found it helpful. W&W really just blows away other competitive lines...in dry time, adhesion, sanding to powder, coverage, and how paint lays on it and adheres to it. Once you have used it, it's hard to use anything else on wood. Still not sure what the "wall" in its name is about. We don't waste that stuff on walls, unless they are wood.  [unsure]

What is W&W?  Link for said review?  Thanks

 

[bkharman]

Sherwin Williams wall & wood primer.
http://www.sherwin-williams.com/homeowners/products/catalog/premium-wall-wood-primer/

Cheers

 

[Scott B.]

By the way Scott... Your Top Coat Review of W&W is what really sold me on picking up a can this week.  I wish i had known about it when we were re-doing the trim and case work!!  Would have saved me a ton of aggregation...

live and learn, live and learn...

Thanks for all of the advise.

cheers

BK, thanks. We just share what works and doesn't work for us, and it's all real world based from our projects. Glad you found it helpful. W&W really just blows away other competitive lines...in dry time, adhesion, sanding to powder, coverage, and how paint lays on it and adheres to it. Once you have used it, it's hard to use anything else on wood. Still not sure what the "wall" in its name is about. We don't waste that stuff on walls, unless they are wood.  [unsure]

What is W&W?  Link for said review?  Thanks

W&W Review: http://topcoatreview.com/2012/06/sherwin-williams-wall-and-wood/

 

[tjbnwi]

As a wood primer it is the best. As a wall primer, not very good at all.

Tom

 

[bkharman]

I was in my basement shop last night staring at the space trying to figure out how I can pull off a paint booth.  I have some space, I just don't have an easy way to exhaust air out.  I can put a filter over a box fan and draw it out of the booth area, i just have no external windows or area in my basement shop.

Any thoughts?  I saw a bunch of homemade booths that exhaust out through a window and garage doors, as well as some who use dryer type venting tube, but my nearest door is about 40 feet away.

thanks,

Bryan

 

[Scott B.]

I was in my basement shop last night staring at the space trying to figure out how I can pull off a paint booth.  I have some space, I just don't have an easy way to exhaust air out.  I can put a filter over a box fan and draw it out of the booth area, i just have no external windows or area in my basement shop.

Any thoughts?  I saw a bunch of homemade booths that exhaust out through a window and garage doors, as well as some who use dryer type venting tube, but my nearest door is about 40 feet away.

thanks,

Bryan

Bryan

I personally am not a big fan of the basement spray shop. Do you have a garage?

 

[bkharman]

I do have a garage. If it were spring I would call it am option but it has been hovering around 20-30 deg this week. Wifey doesn't want to wait for the thaw to get cabinet doors.

If I were to look for a place to spray, where would I start?

 

[tjbnwi]

Know anybody who owns an automotive body shop?

I agree with Scott, the garage.

Tom

 

[Scott B.]

I do have a garage. If it were spring I would call it am option but it has been hovering around 20-30 deg this week. Wifey doesn't want to wait for the thaw to get cabinet doors.

If I were to look for a place to spray, where would I start?

I would temporarily heat the garage and use it as a spray area. Use fast tack materials and move them inside to cure.

From experience, wifey's really don't like spray guns in the house.

 

[tiralie]

I do have a garage. If it were spring I would call it am option but it has been hovering around 20-30 deg this week. Wifey doesn't want to wait for the thaw to get cabinet doors.

If I were to look for a place to spray, where would I start?

I would temporarily heat the garage and use it as a spray area. Use fast tack materials and move them inside to cure.

From experience, wifey's really don't like spray guns in the house.

If you are using forced air to heat the garage, turn it off to spray and leave it off for an hour or so (water Bourne) after otherwise you will have a lot more work than you need.
It's preferable to use radiant heat if you can.
Tim

 

[Paul G]

Was recently spraying my cabinets with General Finishes paint and clear and my 'booth' for shelves, doors and drawer fronts was two ladders with a long section of 2x6 over top between them in a room with box fans pulling the air out the windows. Worked fine as long as it's not a windy day. Use tarps as needed, in my case the floors were the concrete slab so no worries. Window screens needed a good wash though. Drying rack was in adjacent room held up by two little giant ladders. The cabinets themselves were masked off and sprayed in place.

 

[atlr]

Scott, Tom, Tim ...

Do you have any recommendations for paint booth rated/non-sparking/explosion proof class exhaust fans and lighting?

 

[tjbnwi]

Grainger has various models of fans and lights.

http://www.grainger.com/product/DAYTON-Exhaust-Fan-10D995

Tom

 

[tiralie]

Scott, Tom, Tim ...

Do you have any recommendations for paint booth rated/non-sparking/explosion proof class exhaust fans and lighting?

Are you planning to spray solvent based coatings? If you are spraying waterbourne as you have indicated in your initial post you really don't need explosion proof equipment.
Sorry I can't recommend any explosion proof class fans and lighting. When I looked into it, the costs became prohibitive and  trying to wade through the local and federal regulations was just plain exhausting.
Sorry.
Tim

 

[JHC]

KA is our go to cabinet paint now. The fast cure time and low blocking make considering another enamel foolish. We have a super efficient cabinet refinishing system in place now. I would empty the cabinets and spray the insides too. It costs us about the same as masking the face frames off.

Love the turn around time on kem aqua. I can get it in singles here, low gloss blending white is beautiful.