Plywood Prices... argh!

Bob D. said:
Isn't Appleply made in Oregon. Should be available in CA.
https://www.statesind.com/where-to-buy/

I was picking up some drawer slides from my local dealer and asked about Appleply. He said was having a hard time getting inventory and thought they might be going out of business but wasn't sure. The website buyappleply.com also mentions supply issues ("Due to overwhelming demand and current global supply chain issues, we have limited inventory or are out of stock on certain items. Please check back soon for updates.")

He also mentioned he is getting stock of EuroPly within the next week but said 4x8 sheets will be priced somewhere in the $175 - $225 range.

Europly looks pretty good and I think it's the same product Kerf Designs uses with their cabinets.

 
Local distributor here in Northern VA is selling 5x5 3/4 Baltic birch for $123/ea. That's more than double what I woulda paid 2 years ago.

But they do have it in stock at least.
 
Bob D. said:
Isn't Appleply made in Oregon. Should be available in CA.
https://www.statesind.com/where-to-buy/

Seriously? 3/4" Appleply goes for $272 per 4x8 sheet. They don't sell it in 4x8 sizes, so that's the price for 2 4x4 sheets. And shipping is insanely expensive. Not a contender.

Regarding BB, my local Rockler has some 1/2" in stock for less than $50 per 5x5 sheet. I'll probably go grab a few later this week.
Local hardwood dealer wants $199 per sheet for B grade 3/4" BB. 1/2" is $177.

I was told the price went up due to Biden's sanctions since Baltic birch is made in Russia and we are now getting it from Finland - which buys it in Russia and adds a nice margin to resell it to US.
 
"...we are now getting it from Finland - which buys it in Russia and adds a nice margin to resell it to US."

Which I believe they always did (marked up for import to NA) not just since Biden took office.
 
Bob D. said:
"...we are now getting it from Finland - which buys it in Russia and adds a nice margin to resell it to US."

Which I believe they always did (marked up for import to NA) not just since Biden took office.

Well, years ago Putin said something like;

'You guys in Western Europe... ok, you don't want nuclear energy. Ok, you don't want coal power... well, oh, no natural gas either? You want to get electricity from burning wood? I've got some trees in Siberia to sell you.'

But Finland has a bunch of forest too. You sure they get it from Russia?
 
Coen said:
But Finland has a bunch of forest too. You sure they get it from Russia?

The sheets I get from my local hardwood supplier have a "made in Russia" stamp.
A lot of European countries have a bunch of forest. Pine boards at my local HD are from Sweden. Do they have birch trees of similar size and quality in Finland? The technological process and glue composition matters as well.
 
My local hardwood/plywood dealer is paying a 50% tariff on Russian Baltic Birch Plywood. 1/8" 5' x 5' is running $65 a sheet. Plus he said his supplies are drying up soon.
 
xedos said:
I've asked this before , but seems like another good time to bring up -

Any of you going to consider wood alternatives like wheat & straw board now that the prices are competitive with reg. ply ?
https://www.caragreen.com/brands/wheat-board/

In our area this decision comes down to lack of availability. Back in 2010 when we we building our home we went full in on sustainable design, even to the point of taking courses and traveling to conferences to learn about best practices, and pouring over building science books.

Then we hit the hard wall of reality that materials were just not available locally and none of the contractors wanted to do anything new/risky. Even advanced framing was considered witchcraft.

We managed to incorporate a few "green" features but overall it was sobering. I still need to drive 1-2 hours to obtain prefinished ply, let alone anything exotic. YMMV

RMW
 
xedos said:
I've asked this before , but seems like another good time to bring up -

Any of you going to consider wood alternatives like wheat & straw board now that the prices are competitive with reg. ply ?
https://www.caragreen.com/brands/wheat-board/
I actually made a few kitchens out of melamine-clad wheat straw PrimeBoard years ago, liked the product a lot and was disappointed to see it disappear from the market. Great if it's made a comeback, would recommend.
 
I stopped by my favorite plywood supplier (Mr. Plywood) in Portland, Oregon recently to check on prices and availability for 5' x 5' x 3/4" Baltic birch plywood. Prices had gone from $110 per sheet to $120 and their supply (at least what was out on the floor that day) was definitely less than when I last posted.
 
So far no one has cancelled any jobs.

2 sheets of 5x10 matched Walunt to skin a door--$2000.00 by the time they get to me.

Got an email that white oak was getting tight, I have 2 jobs coming up that need a lot of it. Had almost 30K worth of plywood and solids delivered last week for the jobs. One supplier said that was it they're out of white oak.

Good thing is I don't have to pay for any of this, my customers do---eventually....

While were at it, if there is anyone in the Colorado Springs area who would like to learn cabinet fabrication and other things, I'm looking for the right person.

Tom
 
xedos said:
I've asked this before , but seems like another good time to bring up -

Any of you going to consider wood alternatives like wheat & straw board now that the prices are competitive with reg. ply ?
https://www.caragreen.com/brands/wheat-board/

Insulated a roof and used metal studs instead of timber frame to hang the drywall
With inflated wood prices it was about the same expense, but cutting it is dust-free and low-noise. And no crooked studs either.
 
Greg Powers said:
My local hardwood/plywood dealer is paying a 50% tariff on Russian Baltic Birch Plywood. 1/8" 5' x 5' is running $65 a sheet. Plus he said his supplies are drying up soon.

The last time I bought BB it was $60 for a 5 x 5 sheet of 5/8 (15mm).

It is now $147/sheet.
 
I was in Lowe’s yesterday and they had big-box-quality 3/4, 4’ x 8’ red oak hardwood plywood for $96.00.

Does that price sound about right?  With tax, over $100.00 per sheet for plywood?
 
I started another thread when I should have simply added it to this one.  I will contact a moderator to remove it.

Here is the post:

I was in Lowe’s yesterday and they had big-box-quality 3/4”, 4’ x 8’ red oak hardwood plywood for $96.00.

Does that price sound about right?  With tax, over $100.00 per sheet for plywood?
 
In Italy I bought
7 sheets of plywood 3 layer pine 19mm
One sheet is high 205cm lenght 505cm.
They make me 24€by square meter more taxes.

In February I buy same product 6 sheets 32€ meter.

I don't believe price go down...i think grow up instead
 
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