Positive placement nailers anyone use one ?

[joiner1970]

I'm on a job where I need to fit lots of joist hangers for I beam timber/metal joists. I'm thinking of using my compressor and getting the main contractor to buy a bostitch strap shot gun. Does anyone here use one what are they like ?

 

[duburban]

Very nice tools. I used hitachi's 1.5" version. They blow a lot of the paper collation all over so safety glasses are crucial (as always…) The tip can be picky but still much faster then hand banging. If your on a bid job vs hourly, this purchase is a no brainer.

 

[joiner1970]

I'm only on day work at this stage but it will still be more fun using one of these . I know what you mean about all the plastic shrapnel. You can see stuff flying everywhere in the you tube videos.

 

[Deansocial]

Phone paslode. Speak to you local rep saying you want to try 1 for a few days and they will lrnd you 1

 

[joiner1970]

Phone paslode. Speak to you local rep saying you want to try 1 for a few days and they will lrnd you 1

Ha ha very sneaky

I looked at those but decided air powered would be cheaper and I will probably get to keep the gun at the end of the job anyway. The paslode is 3 times the price of the Bostitch strapshot and then there's gas on top of that. The strap shot is only £175 so they won't mind losing that if the job goes quicker.

 

[Deansocial]

Nothing sneaky about it, the pas lode rep told me to phone him if I had a job for 1, said  it was up to me if I wanted 1 after that

 

[joiner1970]

Just kidding, its a cheap way to rent one though FREE do they throw the nails in too lol

 

[wrightwoodwork]

If they throw in the nails then I'll try as well

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

My work associate has the Bostitch Strap Shot 1.5". It works nice except when the temperatures drop below 32F, then the motor seems to freeze up. We have taken to keeping a cooler with a 60 watt bulb on site to keep the device warm in between uses.

That being said, I've heard nothing but good things about the Hitachi.

Also, consider having a palm nailer on hand for those odd places where you can't fit the positive placement nailer and you can't swing a hammer.

Good luck!!  [smile]

 

[RJNeal]

Hitachi [thumbs up]

 

[duburban]

If this is money coming out of the pocket, don't do it! Wouldn't that $200 or so get you much closer to another festool? Its a great tool and all but it doesn't have much glamour when it comes to money out of the tool budget!

 

[w802h]

I used the Bostich strap Shot for a day and liked the tool.  From a cost benefit analysis, in my business model where I buy my tools (not charged to the job) and work on a T&M basis the palm nailer provides a huge labor savings over hand nailing for the client and is much cheaper when measuring the higher fastener cost of a gun like the Strap Shot.  My Palm nailer is nothing special, but it only cost me $25 at my lumber yard's vendor day.  It is made by Grip-Rite and chronically leaks air, however, I don't mind much since the tool generally cycles the compressor a lot anyway. 

 

[joiner1970]

If this is money coming out of the pocket, don't do it! Wouldn't that $200 or so get you much closer to another festool? Its a great tool and all but it doesn't have much glamour when it comes to money out of the tool budget!

As I say I'm NOT paying for it the main contractor on the site is (who happens to be my friend of 30+ years) . It's more of an "expense" to get the job done. Look at it as part of the materials cost. I just mentioned that if he bought one I'm happy to use my compressor with it and it would make life easier. There's about 500 hangers to fit probably not checked exactly.

 

[ewils91]

We use a Paslode pneumatic positive placement, this is not one of their fuel cell guns but a normal compressor powered pneumatic. We love it and have never had an issue, it cost us about $295.00 about 8 years ago.

 

[joiner1970]

We use a Paslode pneumatic positive placement, this is not one of their fuel cell guns but a normal compressor powered pneumatic. We love it and have never had an issue, it cost us about $295.00 about 8 years ago.

We don't get too much paslode air powered stuff this side of the pond.

 

[Brice Burrell]

I used the Bostich strap Shot for a day and liked the tool.  From a cost benefit analysis, in my business model where I buy my tools (not charged to the job) and work on a T&M basis the palm nailer provides a huge labor savings over hand nailing for the client and is much cheaper when measuring the higher fastener cost of a gun like the Strap Shot.  My Palm nailer is nothing special, but it only cost me $25 at my lumber yard's vendor day.  It is made by Grip-Rite and chronically leaks air, however, I don't mind much since the tool generally cycles the compressor a lot anyway. 

I was in the pretty much the same boat.  I just don't do enough work of this type to justify the total cost of a positive placement nailer.  A palm nailer is right tool for guys like me that aren't running joist hangers on a regular basis. 

 

[festooltim]

I use a palm nailer to because I just don't use it enough to justify the price of a gun. But with about 500 to do I would try to talk him into it. Palm nailer is still good for those tight places.

 

[peter halle]

Just like Brice and Tim I use a palm nailer.  I've had this one for more than ten years and this kit with the extra tips has come in handy:  http://www.amazon.com/BOSTITCH-PN100K-Impact-Nailer-Kit/dp/B00005JRLS

At the time I bought this it was new to the market and there were only a couple of different brands our there.  This kit was considerably less expensive than the competitors.

ALWAYS wear safety glasses to protect against errant flying nails and hot dip galvanizing chips.

Peter

 

[mopowers]

My crew frames with these. Bostich

They convert from framing nailer to positive placement in about 10 seconds. Very durable and handle the cold Vermont weather well. Very versatile, a lot of bang for your buck.

 

[w802h]

No disputing that the guns work well.  Although a Paslode fan, that 2 in one Bostich gun looks smart.  A seven pound box, 1000 count box of fasteners  for that Bostich is 58 bucks from Amazon.  Let's say a 50 pound box of galvy hand drive (or palm nailer) Tecos is $70.  If you have six nails per hanger that would be three packs for the gun.  Do you think it's cost effective when you still need to take the time to locate the nail in the joist hanger hole with either a palm nailer or a positive placement gun?  This is of course a dramatic cost difference on a small project buying only a 2lb box of Tecos, but I don't know that it's that big a savings on a large project either even if you get the tool for free.  There are other time costs like moving from one fastener location to another that are fixed no matter what gun.