Positive placement nailers anyone use one ?

[joiner1970]

I reckon the hangers might have 14 nail holes in each ,I don't know at this point only an educated guess. Could be around 450 to 500 once again a guess I will know Monday when I check the drawings. So that's a lot of nails to whack in.

Again I don't care about saving time or money really as I'm just working there on a day rate I just think it will make my life easier and a bit more interesting than manually hammering in 7000 plus nails by hand.

Oh and hopefully I get a new toy to keep lol

 

[Deansocial]

Milwaukee cordless palm nailers make these a breeze too

 

[w802h]

You've answered my question.  The palm nailer appears more cost effective even for a big project.  The difference in fastener costs between palm nailer and positive placement is about $330 US for the quantity you've mentioned.  The palm nailer can't be that much slower overall.  I think you'll find a palm nailer is pretty fun as well. 

 

[Mettes]

I have a Bostitch Strapshot 2.5" (MCN250), and a palmnailer.  If you have 500 joist to hang I would definitely go for a Strapshot, all holes in those hangers have to be used, that are a lot of nails.  The palmnailer will get the job done but it will be slower and it's strenuous on your palm and hand.  Cost of nails will be higher but that will be outweighed by your hours, if you're a professional, those are more valuable than the savings on nails.

 

[joiner1970]

I might look at the palm nailer.

One thing I would say to you guys in the states is that we don't get air tools as easy as you can. Yes I can order online but tool shops here don't stock as many air tools as you would get and they're more expensive

 

[bionicus]

Fitting hangers is boring and sucks. Just get the nailer and don't look back. Aside from saving a boatload of time and energy you'll also have one hand free at all times to hold your hanger, timber, ladder, whatever. I'll never get rid of my 1.5" Strapshot unless I'm upgrading to the 2.5".

 

[wrightwoodwork]

Yep its a boring job I've never used if I have a load of hangers to do I just send the apprentice to do. If I was doing myself all the time I would look into a positive placement nailer

 

[joiner1970]

Looked at a few palm nailer videos and they don't look anywhere near as good as a positive placement nailer and at the end of the day I'm not paying the bill so pp nailer it is

 

[Deansocial]

Get both. Palm nailer is only £30

 

[Tom the Remodeler]

Looked at a few palm nailer videos and they don't look anywhere near as good as a positive placement nailer and at the end of the day I'm not paying the bill so pp nailer it is

You won't be disappointed. While not as sexy a purchase as a router or saw, these positive placement nailers will make you money, pure and simple. The palm nailers are nice for tight spots, but they just don't compare to the speed you can achieve with the Strapshot-style nailers.

 

[joiner1970]

UPDATE

The guy I'm doing the job for decided to buy the whole kit ,compressor, mcn nailer and hose so no freebie gun for me . Oh well at least I'm not wearing my compressor out on his job lol.

He got the bostitch and so far it's been excellent. Only bit that annoys me is how often you need to reload. The nail strips don't have many nails as they are spaced out so you reload all the time.

All in all its a good gun.

 

[wrightwoodwork]

Out of curiosity what sort of time do you think save on a joist hanger using the positive placement nailer. After the job is done does the owner keep and would you go out and buy one with your own money

 

[pettyconstruction]

I have a hitachi and a palm nailer,the hanger gun is a game changer in my opinion.
Very fast and accurate.
I can't believe I lived with out it so long. The palm nailer is good ,but not as fast.
Money well spent. Btw palm nailers are very loud also,wear ear protection for sure.
Chuck

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

I have the Paslode.  It will shoot both shorts an longs.  I can fly through hardware on a deck.  It may be one of the most dangerous tools I own, which makes it kind of fun to use. 

 

[wow]

Does anybody have personal experience with the Milwaukee M12 Palm Nailer? I only need one occasionally, and it's one of the few M12 tools that I don't own. I already own a bunch of chargers and batteries and could buy the tool only for like $60.

BTW, I've used my DuoFast CN350 as a PP nailer a few times. If you're good you can really save a lot of time, but if you're not accurate make sure there aren't any people or animals around who can become collateral damage!

 

[joiner1970]

Out of curiosity what sort of time do you think save on a joist hanger using the positive placement nailer. After the job is done does the owner keep and would you go out and buy one with your own money

Yeah hes keeping it now he's bought his own compressor too. I doubt I would use it much anyway. I don't normally fit this amount of hangers in one go. There's around 300 at a guess plus noggins all around the perimeter fitted with Z clips.

Using the gun in can fit a hanger in seconds so yeah it saves time and also you can hold the hanger and fire the gun with the other hand. It's so much easier that way.

If I get a minute I will take some pics of the job this week.

 

[wrightwoodwork]

Yeah that would be good. 

 

[Deansocial]

Does anybody have personal experience with the Milwaukee M12 Palm Nailer? I only need one occasionally, and it's one of the few M12 tools that I don't own. I already own a bunch of chargers and batteries and could buy the tool only for like $60.

BTW, I've used my DuoFast CN350 as a PP nailer a few times. If you're good you can really save a lot of time, but if you're not accurate make sure there aren't any people or animals around who can become collateral damage!

I have used the m12 palm nailer. I liked it, pretty good bit of kit.

 

[cgraham]

We have had the strap shot since it came out and love it! The only downfall is the length of fasteners. For strapping the house framing to the foundation you need 1 1/2 inches of penetration and with osb sheathing the nail needs to be 2" or longer. Another builder loans us his hitachi for strapping the house but we haven't bought one yet because it is HEAVY! Waiting for a new version of strap shot that can use longer nails

 

[joiner1970]

Here you go a quick pic of the job