Prep to Finish Paint Training Workshops

Scott B. said:
We started the program due to the profound lack of young people entering the trades in general and the paint trade in particular. Most contractors have trouble finding young talent, and meanwhile, the unemployment rate for kids graduating vocational programs is 3 times as high as the general population. Prep to Finish ran a pilot program this year working with dozens of students in three different high school vocational programs. For 2014, we will be expanding the reach of the vocational program for kids.

With schools (at least the ones around here) prepping kids for office jobs it's no wonder the lack of fresh talent, we have the same problem in the printing industry. Good of you to get to them while they are young. I'm sure you're already trying to sort it out but expanding the reach means training trainers, getting other pros involved in their respective markets to participate, and develop a certificate of training that is meaningful and recognized so that trainees can actually find employment. I wish you all the best with this, I admire the effort to change the situation, developing a talent pool is no small undertaking.
 
Brian Livingstone said:
Hi Scott,

I have enjoyed and benefited from reading your posts, and online articles.  I am a part time cabinet maker interested in improving my finishing abiliities.  I hope to be able to attend one of your classes in the spring or summer (I live in relatively nearby Nova Scotia). 

I recently purchased an Earlex 5500 HVLP.  I hope this was a good choice.  I plan to spray both SW W and W and SW Cashmere for painted finishes.  For a clearcoat I am planning on using General Finishes Enduro Var.  I hope these are good choices.

Thanks again Scott.

Brian
Fall River, Nova Scotia, Canada

Thanks Brian, it is always great to hear that folks are able to use the info we share.

The Earlex is a good basic unit, it gets the job done but without some of the more sophisticated features and fittings of pricier HVLP units. We have had good look with it in many different types of applications.

Definitely hope to see you at a PtF workshop. We will continue to announce new 2014 dates, so stay tuned.
 
Paul G said:
Scott B. said:
We started the program due to the profound lack of young people entering the trades in general and the paint trade in particular. Most contractors have trouble finding young talent, and meanwhile, the unemployment rate for kids graduating vocational programs is 3 times as high as the general population. Prep to Finish ran a pilot program this year working with dozens of students in three different high school vocational programs. For 2014, we will be expanding the reach of the vocational program for kids.

With schools (at least the ones around here) prepping kids for office jobs it's no wonder the lack of fresh talent, we have the same problem in the printing industry. Good of you to get to them while they are young. I'm sure you're already trying to sort it out but expanding the reach means training trainers, getting other pros involved in their respective markets to participate, and develop a certificate of training that is meaningful and recognized so that trainees can actually find employment. I wish you all the best with this, I admire the effort to change the situation, developing a talent pool is no small undertaking.

Thank you Paul, and you are correct. The term for all of that is scalability. We have set up the program on a five year plan to start with, which includes the goals you mentioned and more. One of our primary initiatives is to create a way for the Building Trades instructors in vocational programs to earn recertification credits for completing PtF training themselves, which then sets them up to train their own kids right in the programs year after year. That is just one of many examples of scalability. We are also working on more effective online means of educating, with tremendous help from our manufacturer partners. That is another way to expedite the message and content effectively.

That's part of the excitement for us. Each year, even each QTR of each year, there are new initiatives for us to roll out and keep motoring toward the big picture goals.

In the paint industry, and probably the other trades, the average age of us in the field is mid to late 40's, which means that in the next 10-20 years there will be a real shortage as many of us phase out.

We are very fortunate to have partnering manufacturers with healthy contacts and resources around the country to help with the educational effort, there would be no other way that we could grow this. We are very excited to take it to the next level in 2014.

 
By way of update...

We have rescheduled the January 21-22 workshop to Tuesday February 18, 2014, and the content of the workshop has been changed.

This shuffling of the deck is in response to all of the recent weather and travel complications around the country. It seems that everyone's schedules have been impacted in some way, including ours. Hope everyone is safe and getting back to a semblance of normalcy.

Here is a link to the new workshop date and content info: http://preptofinish.com/2014-prep-to-finish-private-training/

We will be adding subsequent dates for March and April soon as well.

Thanks so much to everyone who has expressed interest in the Prep to Finish Workshop Series.
 
Quick schedule update...

Prep to Finish will mobilize on Monday Feb 17 to NTC Vocational School in St Albans Vt for a hands on drywall spraying workshop with students.

Then on Feb 18 we return to our facilities for a private Intro to Spraying Workshop for pros and hobbyists who are interested in learning better spray practices across multiple technologies (aaa, HVLP, airless, handhelds, etc).

There is still an opening for this workshop. Info is here: http://preptofinish.com/prep-to-finish-painter-training/

Skiers and snowboarders especially encouraged to join us. Good snow in Vt this month, and multiple mountains within 30 minutes of shop.

Let me know if you have questions. Thanks!
 
This is a new video of Prep to Finish on a recent workshop with students in a high school vocational program, training them on sanding drywall with extraction.

We appreciate Festool's support of education and training in the trades.

 
Very nice video Scott!  I love what you're doing here, it's an incredible opportunity for these kids to learn from people in the trade and have exposure to these great tools!  Good job!
 
Here's some footage from our private training workshop this week:

 
The beat goes on at P2F...we have done a couple of vocational workshops recently and in the month of May will take a little 2000 mile turn travelling from Maine to Montana to work with about 125 students. #psyched

 
Bump.

So...P2F hits the road next week, going to Sanford, Maine to train students at the regional tech center there. This will be a split day. First session will be HVLP in clear cabinet grade, second session air assisted drywall finishing.

Then, the following week we head to Billings, Montana to speak, demonstrate and hands on train students on the topic of manual (non sprayed) cab grade finishes. There will be 80-100 students in this event. We are also told that the Montana Woodturners Association will be attending to hear us speak. If there are any MWA members here in the FOG, please make yourselves known so that we can chat in Billings. The date is 5/15 at Billings West High.

Meanwhile, here is some of our recent work...

 
Just by way of update, Prep to Finish is hitting the streets again in 2015!

We kicked off our flagship program - our vocational/technical school workshop series - this week and there are a bunch more in the pipeline around the east coast this season.

Next week, we head to Boston to train 31 professional painters, to begin a new PDCA (Painting/Decorating Contractors of America) contractor training series.

We will also be teaching classes at JLC Live in Providence in March. And, offering select private trainings in our Vt facilities.

Feel free to post up questions here!

Meanwhile, enjoy this video of a group of kids from a program that we have worked with for 3 years now - this footage is from this past thursday. They are furniture building specialists, and we train them on fine finishing each year. Very inspiring.

 
@ Scott B
Great work, Scott.  Today, in Connecticut, at least, many schools are phasing out shop classes and even architectural and mechanical drawing.  When our kids were in HS back in the 80's (our kids are older than we are  [wink]) woodshop and metal shop classes had already been tossed under the bus.  Our son took 3 years of automotive shop, but when he left (graduated), that was in the pipeline for discontinuation. Also, the drawing classes were discontinued.  During that period of time, i had gotten into many arguments with teachers, school boards and such that all kids were not cut out for universities, and, some, not even looking towards community colleges.  I was on the town Parks and Recreation Commission here in Ridgefield for 26 years (add ten years to that during my time of working with them "under the table.") During one meeting, we were discussing the problem.  Three of my fellow commissioners were bemoaning the fact that no graduates were headed for engineering schools, or few to the sciences. They were talking like it was other peoples kids who were the problem.  I asked each of them what their kids were majoring in.  Without exception, they all answered "Business."  One of them had three kids in college.  All three of those young people were included in that answer.

My sister in law was interested in young people with nearly as much concern as I had.  She was more involved with the school system, being more a part of the school teacher crowd.  she was in better position to make moves from within the system.  She discussed with me a possibility to make it possible for boys and girls to go out to spend a day (or more) with trades people to see how work was done.  She had my full encouragement.  I was already hiring about 4 or 5 HS students part time in spring and fall with full time during the summer.  eventually, I had 7 HS students working.  There was not a lazy kid in the bunch.  Of course, I cheated a little.  Not very much, mind you, but just a little.  I had coached kids on the soccer fields as well as observing my son's team mates on the wrestling team.  I knew the kids who would work and willing to get dirty long before any of them even knew there was such a thing as WORK.  That was the best working and best learning group I have ever had working for me.

Eventually, SIL put thru permission for kids to go out on jobs.  The problem then became one where there were almost no other contractors willing to go along.  SIL told me there was only one other contractor willing besides me.  I took on a couple of boys for a couple of days each.  And then the school board stepped in.  It seems they were concerned about insurance.  I had every kind of insurance available for my trade. (at time, i had two crews working at landscaping and one crew working in construction.  I moved them all around so none became bored and every day was new and fun) Compensation insurance  for all of my help on or off the job.  Lability for anything happening to property or any person injured because of my equipment whether employed or not.  After market coverage. i was paying more in insurance than in taxes.  I was not covered for students who were on the job as observers, even tho I had coverage that would cover them if they had been vandalizing my project.  The project was snuffed out within the week it started.

Lately, there has been talk of closing down some of the trade schools in the state.  And people complain that work  (manufacturing) is being shipped to other countries.  It isn't all because the workers work for less.  it is because kids are being raised to not get their hands dirty.  They, even if they want to work, are chased away at every opportunity.  when I was coaching soccer, I would often ask the children (I coached kids from age 7 to HS seniors  >>> even tho I had never played the game myself.  That is another story) what their fathers did for a living.  Among the youngest up until 11 or 12, not one had any idea.  they knew they had a father, but he was gone before they got out of bed in the morning.  Some did not come home until the kids were in bed at nite.  I have always been thankful that I worked at a trade that allowed me to be near home and to allow my own kids to work with me.  I never told either one, a girl and a boy, that either one ever had to watch me work.  And i never chased them away while I was working.  When they were at work on my job, they were in school.  That was the requirement.  they were "forced to obey the rules even tho they were not required to be there with me.  They even had to listen to what i told them.  That alone, should have soured them.  BUT it did not.

Scott, i am sure you have had to make a lot of preparations beyond just setting up schedules to show these young men, and, yes, I noticed a girl or two among the hands-on's in the vids.  Kids do want to learn.  You and your partner happen to understand that phenomenon.  I think it is great what you are doing.  I hope there will be more on this as time goes on.
Tinker
 
Tinker

Thanks for your comment. I know you "get" it about how rewarding it is to work with kids and to be some small part of their career path.

We are in our 3rd year of this tech school workshop series. We've gone from Maine to Montana and are filling in gaps on the map every where in between. I think even Connecticut is on our radar for this year, and by the way, we have visits scheduled with some very modern looking and cutting edge programs there. Anyways, what the kids in the programs have taught us is that there are kids who are ready, willing and able to (and in many cases, have to) enter the workforce, and understand that they need to show up with skills. We have trained kids who were offered $40k right out of high school to go to work in production shops.

The challenge is as much on small businesses in the trades to create company cultures that would appeal to a younger generation. They have to be engaged, challenged, have fun and see measurable results in their work in order to invest themselves in it. I think that is part of why Todd and I relate well to them (even as former public school teachers), because we value those same things.

I will most definitely keep this thread up to date this year. And hope to cross paths with you and maybe swap a story or two over a malt beverage at JLC Live.
 
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