Protool in the US
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with aussie prices i suspect more than a flight to germany to fetch 1 lol
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Just a thought .... Timberwolf Tools does sell some Protool gear http://timberwolftools.com/tools/protool/protool.html
It may be worth seeing if they can get their hands on cordless drills for you at a reasonable price.
It may be worth seeing if they can get their hands on cordless drills for you at a reasonable price.
Just a little background for you guys. I am a plumber by trade and the reason why I am looking at Festool/Protool is that my 4 year old Panasonic 14.4 drill passed on to the afterlife. This cordless drill has never really impressed me, but it works. I really like the Panasonic impact driver that came with my set. For being four years old, it is still a top notch tool with 3.0 Ah batteries and a brushless motor. I have replaced my impact housing twice because of falls on concrete, the second drop not being that high. So now I am looking to invest in something more robust and while the Festool drills look great, for my kind of work I would like durability (Protool) over precision (Festool).
Being a plumber, I am always drilling through studs, joists, floors, and siding with either self-feeding bits, hole saws, or auger bits. It would be nice to not have to haul around my heavy Milwaukee SuperHawg for all of the tough drilling.
Being a plumber, I am always drilling through studs, joists, floors, and siding with either self-feeding bits, hole saws, or auger bits. It would be nice to not have to haul around my heavy Milwaukee SuperHawg for all of the tough drilling.
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mjackson said:
Then haul around the Milwaukee M28 drill or M28 right angle drill. Plenty of power for that kind of work and no cords but the charger's.
mjackson said:
I have a buddy that had the same Panasonic and switched to the Protool. He bought it while on vacation in Prague. Said he had to have a few drinks before he handed over the $800 for a drill. He then carried a systainer around Europe for two weeks.
The drill is awesome in every single way, other than price. I don't know if the bump in price along with difficulty in obtaining the drill is worth it over the T18. I am sure there are a few people that abuse their Fes drills who can attest to their durability.
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Vindingo said:
When you put a T18 in one hand and a PDC18-4 for in the other, it's easier to put the T18 down first!
I've been waiting months (and I'm still waiting) for the updated PDC18-4 to arrive here - there is a current special in Oz, for $AU699 you get the PDC18-4 in a old style systainer, plus a 3rd battery and a Protool torch. So tempting. [embarassed]
mjackson said:
I have the Milwaukee SuperHawg that I rarely need for those REALLY tough jobs, it certainly gets the job done but you better have the extended pipe handle screwed in and even with that it can give you a ride... [scared] [eek] [crying]
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I've used my Super Hawg a lot and never had kickback.
There are plenty of times that there is no getting around using a heavy right angle drill to go through wood. I want a tough cordless drill for drilling through I-joists under subfloors. My Panasonic 14.4 had a hard time with a 2-1/2" hole saw through 1/2" OSB unless the battery was fresh. I don't need a light since I almost always wear a good headlamp on the jobsite.
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Vindingo said:
That was the reason I didn't keep the T18 I'd purchased, no light - got a C15+Ti15 instead and decided to get the big Protool later ... then came the news of the update with a light!
(the T18 I got came with that stupid little add on light ... piece of rubbish that)
I never had a light on a drill / driver until I got a CXS - now I think it's silly not to have a light.
Ken Nagrod said:
A place that comes to mind -- I was drilling 1" diameter holes in structural shapes e.g. I-beam, channel, etc. with a twist drill -- the drill tended to grab as it broke through the ~1/2" webs. I would normally use a drill press or mill but the pieces were to big to handle.
I don't know if Milwaukee offers the SuperHawg with variable speed (ideal for what I was doing) but mine is only a two speed model.
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Have you guys ever checked out DeWalt's Hole Hawg Kilelr. Or at least their attempt at the killer. It never took off here, in the North East. Milwaukee just has the name.
But, the DeWalt has some sort of safety gyroscope tech in it that turns the motor off when the drill is on and then deviates 10 or 15 degrees from the original position in which it was turned on (trigger depressed). It's VERY cool and it works. It does not need 180 degree rotation, or even 90 degree rotation, for the clutch / motor to cut out, nor does it need to feel any torque. Simply just needs to move a bit and she shuts down.
But, the DeWalt has some sort of safety gyroscope tech in it that turns the motor off when the drill is on and then deviates 10 or 15 degrees from the original position in which it was turned on (trigger depressed). It's VERY cool and it works. It does not need 180 degree rotation, or even 90 degree rotation, for the clutch / motor to cut out, nor does it need to feel any torque. Simply just needs to move a bit and she shuts down.
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RonWen said:
Ron, only a 2 speed model to my knowledge and the low speed has a safety clutch. Maybe I've just been lucky, but that thing has such gobs of torque and never gave me a hint of torque reaction while drilling. I still take precautionary measures.
Kev said:
No probably about it, prices here are so high it makes your hair bleed.
Think 200 to 300% higher than the US... $23 sandpaper is $72, a $21 router bit is $83.... Makes me think there might be a heck of an opportunity for us Aussies to do a collective buy deal with a trusted US member and do a bulk order and ship. We can split it up when it arrives.... Think about it, just getting the 50 to 180 Rubin range would drop the price from $250 odd to about $110....
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