Received first order...is this normal?

[tiralie]

One question, doesn't it mess up the calibration of the scale of the wings?

Yes, but just take them off, buy a new one (12.16 USD) calibrate it to the new measure and stick it on.

 

[shaneymack]

So glad to read that your dealer and also Festool are committed to addressing your situation!

Peter

I am as well Peter! I will let everyone know how the new ug bracket fits once i get it!

 

[jacko9]

shaneymack,

I'm interested in your UG bracket problem resolution as well since I'm considering purchasing the same system.

The Onieda V-System is a great solution for the shop but, the one thing I learned from my installation was to not restrict the flow at the machines.  I have a few machines that were produced before dust collection and after running the 6" pipe with 5" drops to the machines I used plastic 4" connection ports attached to homebuilt machine interface brackets.  The reduction to 4" was way too much and I had to re-make the machine manifolds to 5" minimum which solved the flow efficiency.

I'm looking forward to seeing pictures of your shop.

Jack

 

[shaneymack]

shaneymack,

I'm interested in your UG bracket problem resolution as well since I'm considering purchasing the same system.

The Onieda V-System is a great solution for the shop but, the one thing I learned from my installation was to not restrict the flow at the machines.  I have a few machines that were produced before dust collection and after running the 6" pipe with 5" drops to the machines I used plastic 4" connection ports attached to homebuilt machine interface brackets.  The reduction to 4" was way too much and I had to re-make the machine manifolds to 5" minimum which solved the flow efficiency.

I'm looking forward to seeing pictures of your shop.

Jack

Jack,
Thanks for the info on the collector.  I definitely will be running 6" mains with 5" drops to a reducer from 5 to 4 directly at the machine. All my machines are 4" outlets.
I would love to see a pic of your set up.

 

[jacko9]

If you can advoid the 4" restrictions you will greatly improve your chip/dust flow.  Here are a few pictures of my rebuilt manifolds. The first photo is my Powermatic planer with the plastic manifold I purchased from Rockler. The second is the replacement with a hood from Oneida welded to a top plate on my planer.  The other photos show my connection to my Poitras 8" Jointer which originally had a dust chute again I started with the Rockler 4" dust port and as with the planer the flow restrictions were too much to prevent dust and chips from excaping. I also attached a picture showing my overhead run and as you can see my space is pretty restricted.

Let me know if you need any other suggestions.

Jack

 

[shaneymack]

If you can advoid the 4" restrictions you will greatly improve your chip/dust flow.  Here are a few pictures of my rebuilt manifolds. The first photo is my Powermatic planer with the plastic manifold I purchased from Rockler. The second is the replacement with a hood from Oneida welded to a top plate on my planer.  The other photos show my connection to my Poitras 8" Jointer which originally had a dust chute again I started with the Rockler 4" dust port and as with the planer the flow restrictions were too much to prevent dust and chips from excaping. I also attached a picture showing my overhead run and as you can see my space is pretty restricted.

Let me know if you need any other suggestions.

Jack

Did you actually cut bigger holes into your machines?

 

[jacko9]

The planer and jointer didn't have any dust ports at all when I bought them new back in the early 1980's.  The table saw has a 4" port that I left as it is since the biggest issue with the table saw requires a over the blade hood to be effective.

I had sheet metal plates cut to fit the openings and had a 5" port welded to them, it works pretty fine now.

Jack

 

[shaneymack]

Did either of you try swapping the extensions from right-to-left to determine if it's the Kapex or the extensions?

Tom

No i have not tried that yet. I will and report back....

So i tried putting the left ug extension on the right side of the saw. Same result.

 

[tbellemare]

That would indicate to me that it's not the extension.

Tom

 

[shaneymack]

That would indicate to me that it's not the extension.

Tom

Ya i agree. Not sure what the fix will be. Let's hope the bracket Festool sends me will have a smaller v section underneath to compensate for the v in the kapex being to high.

 

[shaneymack]

I received the bracket from festool today. It was the same result which solidified it being the kapex in my mind. I decided to try and grind down the bottom of the aluminum bracket instead of hassleing everyone further. It worked great. It went from 20 thousandths higher than the kapex to 3 thousandths higher. I cut some cherry and slid it from left to right over that bracket and it didnt get hooked up on the ug extension. U am happy with that.  5 minutes of grinding solved the problem.

Shane

 

[CNX]

Thank you Shane for the update.
I guess, this is what we expected.

It's surprising that Festool never recognized this issue, but probably the magnitude and the nature of the problem are such that they can't admit it.

At least users like us now know what is one and only solution; grind down the bracket.

 

[MGB]

I would find that issue completely unacceptable. Even on a dewalt/makita/bosch. In fact I doubt you'd have that problem with those cheaper brands.

They'd probably just tap in a couple set screws into each wing for adjustment to make up for manufacturing tolerances.

Not necessarily a bad thing.