RO 90 Sand Paper

[waho6o9]

I vote we ban Norwegian Wood from this fine site.  [big grin]

 

[Madrigal Home Improvment]

I agree , ban him  [jawdrop]

 

[Brice Burrell]

Let me get us back on topic here, well, sort of.  I'd think a 10 pack is a little small, I'd like to see 25 packs in every type and grit.

 

[Administrator_JSVN]

The offending post has been removed. Let's get back to talking tools. Must be a full moon today.  [blink]

Thank you to those who reported the post.

 

[AlexThePalex]

Let me get us back on topic here, well, sort of.  I'd think a 10 pack is a little small, I'd like to see 25 packs in every type and grit.

Well, for me, as a hobbyist, 10 packs do it. I almost exclusively buy 10 packs, or per sheet. For a pro, 10 would be too small yeah. But heck, let's give people the choice.

 

[USPcompact]

Let me get us back on topic here, well, sort of.  I'd think a 10 pack is a little small, I'd like to see 25 packs in every type and grit.

25 would be a very nice option.  

 

[Bob Marino]

 
Well, 10 pack, 25 pack, hard to argue one over the other. Different strokes as they say.

  Bob

 

[Theshipstore]

Its sad that a simple request from one Fog member to anothe rcould get blown out of proportion.
I realize I am somewhat new on this site,and to Festool but this is crazy over something simple...
Bob in my modest dealing with you to date I think you are trying to accomplish something good for all overall

 

[tvgordon]

When I buy a new sander I like to buy the 10 packs of sandpaper so I can have various grits and types on hand.  After some use I'll buy the larger packs of the grits and types that work best with the sander and the projects I've got lined up.  Just my 2 cents.

Tom

 

[USPcompact]

 
Well, 10 pack, 25 pack, hard to argue one over the other. Different strokes as they say.

  Bob

Yep!

;D

 

[ccarrolladams]

To me a really good point is that Festool makes a wide range of abrasives as well as the sanders.

Back in January 2006, a week after I bought my original TS55, OF1010, CT22, rails, etc, I bought an RO 150. By then I had read all the information Festool provided about their dust collection system for sanders and details of the abrasive choices.

Sixty years of experience using power tools, including sanders, had suggested grits I would be using the most. However, I buy from Eagle Tool of Los Angeles because I value their advice. Their advice was that with the RO 150 I probably would not need the coarsest grits and I might need to use a slightly finer grit for the last pass. I think I bought 5 grits of Rubin, from 80 to 180. I know I bought 120 to 240 in another paper but I am not sure Brilliant 2 was available then.

What I had learned from reading about Festool sanding and talking to other Festool users was that it would be a bad mistake to attempt using any brand of abrasives which did not exactly match the Festool holes, especially the center hole. For a couple of years I used up my supplies of other papers on my older sanders. Once most of my older paper was used, I sold the other sanders.

Eventually I decided to also buy a Festool 125mm sander. I forget which one. By then I knew I actually mostly used Rubin 80 and 120, plus the other kind in 120 and 150 grits. I had hardly used any of the finer grits. Still, just in case, I bought all of those. Five years later, none of the old papers have gone bad in storage. Craftspeople working for me do use different grits, so there was no waste.

In Solid Surface class we mostly used Granat with the RO 150 and a hard pad. We experimented with the RO 90 DX, which in theory would be useful sanding the build-up. However, the RO 90 DX hard pads were not available. Semi soft pads are not appropriate for most solid surface sanding.

Most of my work is with unfinished hardwood and various plywoods. I have not stripped a finish since 1960, so there are many Festool papers I have only tried when visiting friends.

I own and use Systainers for 150mm and 125mm papers. I have on order the empty version for the 90mm papers. Should anyone offer a special promotion of that Systainer with an assortment of papers I will buy it in an instant.

I consider myself lucky in that I get to make projects using my tools 5 and 6 days a week. I remember years during which other better paying assignments precluded me working with wood for months at a time. What kept me going was the certain knowledge that my tools, blades, bits and abrasives would be waiting for me when I had time.

The only abrasives I had to throw out before using were a couple of sheets of ordinary sandpaper on which some paint was spilled.

 

[Corwin]

To me a really good point is that Festool makes a wide range of abrasives as well as the sanders.

Back in January 2006, a week after I bought my original TS55, OF1010, CT22, rails, etc, I bought an RO 150. By then I had read all the information Festool provided about their dust collection system for sanders and details of the abrasive choices.

Sixty years of experience using power tools, including sanders, had suggested grits I would be using the most. However, I buy from Eagle Tool of Los Angeles because I value their advice. Their advice was that with the RO 150 I probably would not need the coarsest grits and I might need to use a slightly finer grit for the last pass. I think I bought 5 grits of Rubin, from 80 to 180. I know I bought 120 to 240 in another paper but I am not sure Brilliant 2 was available then.

What I had learned from reading about Festool sanding and talking to other Festool users was that it would be a bad mistake to attempt using any brand of abrasives which did not exactly match the Festool holes, especially the center hole. For a couple of years I used up my supplies of other papers on my older sanders. Once most of my older paper was used, I sold the other sanders.

Eventually I decided to also buy a Festool 125mm sander. I forget which one. By then I knew I actually mostly used Rubin 80 and 120, plus the other kind in 120 and 150 grits. I had hardly used any of the finer grits. Still, just in case, I bought all of those. Five years later, none of the old papers have gone bad in storage. Craftspeople working for me do use different grits, so there was no waste.

In Solid Surface class we mostly used Granat with the RO 150 and a hard pad. We experimented with the RO 90 DX, which in theory would be useful sanding the build-up. However, the RO 90 DX hard pads were not available. Semi soft pads are not appropriate for most solid surface sanding.

Most of my work is with unfinished hardwood and various plywoods. I have not stripped a finish since 1960, so there are many Festool papers I have only tried when visiting friends.

I own and use Systainers for 150mm and 125mm papers. I have on order the empty version for the 90mm papers. Should anyone offer a special promotion of that Systainer with an assortment of papers I will buy it in an instant.

I consider myself lucky in that I get to make projects using my tools 5 and 6 days a week. I remember years during which other better paying assignments precluded me working with wood for months at a time. What kept me going was the certain knowledge that my tools, blades, bits and abrasives would be waiting for me when I had time.

The only abrasives I had to throw out before using were a couple of sheets of ordinary sandpaper on which some paint was spilled.

Okay, Festool makes a wide variety of abrasives.  But this discussion was regarding the paper count.  Since you have a cabinet shop, boxes of 50 or 100 are likely not an issue for you.  For other users, however, a box of 50 or 100 of a single grit is simply too much -- especially when you also consider that one typically needs a number of different grits for each size abrasive.  We have repeatedly asked that Festool offer their abrasives in smaller quantities.  This thread is yet another example of that desire.

 

[sw1211]

I believe Tom or Bob (hope that's accurate) will break out packages of sandpaper, so what does it matter if Festool offers smaller quantity packaging or not?  Sure you can't get them everywhere but as long as you can get them somewhere, you should be covered.  [dead horse] [dead horse] [dead horse]

 

[WarnerConstCo.]

Am I the only one that likes to collect sand paper?

When I run out of a staple paper, I re-order it and try a different kind as well.

I get a warm fuzzy feeling looking at all my sand paper. [cool]

I do kind of agree about the 50 count being a good size, I think some of the lower grits come in 25 counts, like Saphir.

It is nice having a supply.

 

[GaryB]

The 10 packs have indeed come in extremely handy for me when I needed something quick and cheap but wasn't sure of which paper to use. Packs of 50 or 100 add up to a chunk of change really fast, especially when you're not sure what you really need. It's also very handy when your local dealer has these packs in stock. I can quickly nip out and buy some as and when I need it. I think 25 packs would be ideal for me. Let's face it, we can all go through hundreds of 180-220 but realistically, how many 36 grit sheets are we likely to use in the same timeframe. I use them infrequently, but I still need them.

One of the ways the existing 10 packs have been really useful is that my dealer lets me borrow the demo models I'm interested in buying. I take it home and buy a 10 pack to test with. If I like it I buy, if not, they still shifted some stock. It's good for both of us. That's how I ended up with the Rotex and others.

 

[Holzhacker]

This sandpaper thread is really helpful. Missed the controversial post, which is probably good.
I was going to pick up my RO90 this week but decided to wait until Monday. There is a festool demo day at my local dealer. I heard this AINA rumor that if you buy a tool on a demo day you get 50% off the tool and accessories. Man that is going to be so great.  [poke]
Thanks for the great marketing Shane

 

[btracey1]

It wouldn't surprise me to find out that this has already been discussed, but are there any guesstimates as to when the backordered RO 90 papers are expected? (In any quantity)
Brian

 

[Brice Burrell]

It wouldn't surprise me to find out that this has already been discussed, but are there any guesstimates as to when the backordered RO 90 papers are expected? (In any quantity)
Brian

No definitive word, but they should be trickling in anytime now. 

 

[Pdevore]

But don't let me forget to thank you for your input no matter how useless it was.
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WOW, Thant was quite harsh don't you think?
I'm pretty sure that he was pointing out the long term IF by chance you had not fully thought it out.
I for one have thought of doing stuff like you in splitting items but eventually decided it was not worth the saveings.

I have not been on this forum long, but have received ALOT of good information and help. I don not believe that anyone here is trying to disrespect anyone else.

Just my 2 cents

Pete

 

[elkhunter]

Sounds good count me in. I am in maryland and picking up the sander this afternoon.

Elkhunter

elkhunt@mac.com