Roof and facia boards etc

Alan m said:
jmbfestool said:
sorry dude!  

forgot to paste link!
http://www.heco-schrauben.de/ceasy/modules/cms/main.php5?cPageId=112

You can get them countersunk or flanged!  I prefer flanged!   Longest size I think is 400mm long
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is there  an english version. how much are they. i paid 54 euro lately for a 100 box of 180mm screws  [eek]
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It is english aint it?  Well it reads english to me lol  [tongue]

umm cant remember the price I think its......  Dean your remember what is cost per box??
 
sorry i thpught it was german or dutch but it actually jmb speek so might work it out.

pressed something and it brought me to an option page to change it
 
Deansocial said:
£25 for 50  200mmx8mm flange head
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Screw fix sells the ones I use but screwfix is a little expensive!   I think I payed like some where in the reason of £25 a little more of course cus i think I get 60 in a box

If you was to buy 50 from screw fix would cost you £70  rip OFF!

JMB
 
Wa glue did u use to glue the cedar together?

Did u  use the AWSOME Soudal Construction PU which is the best glue every LOVE IT!   Or did you just use ordinary crap milky white PU which requires pressure to pond wood together???  [tongue]

JMB
 
no i used brown pu glue but i had somewhere to clamp all joints to get the tight so didnt need gap filling properties
 
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another roof almost done
 
Love to see a hand cut roof Dean.  You rarely see that up here any more, starting to be something of a lost art.  All the newly trained joiners can do now is nail down trusses.  What percentage of roofs would you say are hand cut down your way ?

Do you use a track saw or free hand with a rip snort ?
 
Well Dean aint far from me so close that he's helping me out on a job!  well... he needs to come and bloody help me with this  218square meter of oak flooring ASAP!  

Any way I dont do that many roofs but I would say for me its 90% hand cut roofs.

JMB      
 
Alot of roof are trusses around here but for me i have put 4 truss roofs on ever and 2 were garages, I dont see the point of them really. With trusses i find the walls dont line up etc on loft trusses as they are not very accurate. Roofins not a lost art really, it is and easy thing to do. Well i said easy, but that 74 degree into 38 degree mansard valley was a head scratcher.
 
Nice work, Dean!  I too love cutting all the roof parts instead of just craning up a truss and nailing it.  The math involved in making the stuff yourself is good for the brain cells.  The art is figuring it all on the ground, cutting it all on the ground, then installing it without any problems.  The same can be said for trim carpentry with oddball stuff.  Figuring it all out, cutting then installing instead of back and forth is the difference between a good carpenter and a great carpenter.  Most anyone can hit a nail where they're told to.  No challenge or reward there.

[thumbs up]
 
you mean cuts like this
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valley jack is 45mm wide and the bevel cut is 230mm long. bugger to cut

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Structurally and aesthetically cuts like that do take more time, but are much better.  I'd venture a guess that 97% of the roofs here are done completely with trusses.  Speed in building the house is of utmost importance for high profits.
 
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