Shaper Origin deliveries?

[mcooley]

Anyone get their Shaper CNC routers delivered? Curious about first impressions and possible short-term and long-term issues etc.

Thanks

 

[david.evangelisto]

I was wondering the same thing.  I figured that we'd be seeing people posting stuff about receiving their Shaper Origins, but I haven't seen anything yet.  Am I just not looking in the right place??? [blink]

 

[nclemmons]

They are shipping but not that many have gone out so far.  The shaper community has a few actually active.  I am in batch 1 having ordered about 3 weeks after they announced and am anxiously awaiting a shipping notice!

 

[Woodkrafts]

Me too. Waiting for the second batch. Will apparently ship in January.
Love to see one in action.

 

[bnaboatbuilder]

Interested in real world feedback as well. No videos yet in the wild which are not produced or sponsored by Shaper.

Haven't purchased one but the website stays open for me daily as a reminder, since Nov 27th is the next price increase.

 

[Aclaw]

I received mine last Wednesday, and was very impressed with the shipping and double boxing.  It seems to have arrived intact, but I hope to get into it this extended weekend for some potential gift making.  I will report back once I get to use it.

 

[Michael Kellough]

Who made the spindle? Did Festool have anything to do with the spindle or only the Systainer?

 

[rst]

The router is Festool produced according to their marketing.  The systainer is just a logical progression.

 

[peter halle]

[member=297]Michael Kellough[/member] the spindle is made by Festool.

Peter

 

[ali]

My guess this will be branded a Festool Shaper in Europe. Watching with great interest

 

[ryanjg117]

[member=43074]Aclaw[/member] - Have you had a chance to actually use it? How much tape do they include? How has it performed?

Some other easy questions:

- What collets are included? Can I use the collets from my OF1400 since I've heard they're using a Festool router?

- What have you thought of the dust collection so far? I prefer using downcut spiral bits in my plywood as they leave a laser finish on the surface, but they tend to impact dust. Curious if the DC is strong enough to pull it out.

- What is the max plunge depth?

- When you go off course, has it "pulled out" as designed and is the workpiece still recoverable?

I got out of line on the pre-order at $1699 (I had one referral bonus) as I had to put a down payment on a house and was scrounging the couch cushions, but might be willing to get back in line if they'd offer to honor that original price.

 

[bnaboatbuilder]

Watching a Shaper demo video while ago with the CEO, he said the Festool 1/4" and 8mm collets can be used with their spindle. Most likely just the 1/4' included though.

First of three instructional videos:

- What collets are included? Can I use the collets from my OF1400 since I've heard they're using a Festool router?

 

[ryanjg117]

Thanks, watching the video now.

Bummed about the price of tape: $18 for 150 foot roll. Due to the way you have to layer the tape, that entire roll of 150 feet of tape will only last through 1.5 sheets of 4x8 plywood according to Origin.

That means you're looking at about $12 in JUST tape costs for each full sheet of plywood - notwithstanding the cost of router bits which we all know can be significant.

Bummer.

 

[Aclaw]

[member=51886]ryanjg117[/member]  I am also disappointed in the two rolls of tape. I'm going to try to make some type of reusable jig with a cutout.  I'm nervous about what if this company goes under and I'm out of tape then I'm screwed.  Maybe I can engrave the tape dimensions and style into a spoilboard jig or something similar. 

Basically its a Festool 700 motor and accepts those collets.  I haven't used mine at all (haven't even taken the machine out of the systainer)  Hope to this upcoming weekend though.  Really going to see if the USB interface is as easy as portrayed.

 

[bnaboatbuilder]

The tape has made me start thinking about other ways of doing all this than just covering a sheet.

If you're working with smaller pieces of precut wood, a few square feet or more, example like cutting boards or planks of real wood, then a permanent fixture table with tape on it would be convenient. Have an actual workpiece snuggle into and flush with the fixture/tape/table top idea similar to a spoil board. The tape is of no use directly under the router from everything I see but instead tape further out so the camera can view it for reference. For me there are so many things I could make and design where a full sheet concept is irrelevant.

Can a spray painted template be used when the pattern on a work piece doesn't matter? It seems there will have to be some creative ways of overcoming the excessive amount of Shaper tape that will be needed. Will there be 3rd party tape or is it intellectual property tape? What if the pattern could be projected onto the surface by electronic means instead of physical tape. To me the ideas will grow rapidly if the tape is a hurdle.

Thanks, watching the video now.

Bummed about the price of tape: $18 for 150 foot roll. Due to the way you have to layer the tape, that entire roll of 150 feet of tape will only last through 1.5 sheets of 4x8 plywood according to Origin.

That means you're looking at about $12 in JUST tape costs for each full sheet of plywood - notwithstanding the cost of router bits which we all know can be significant.

Bummer.

 

[Michael Kellough]

I doubt Shaper is in the tape manufacturing business. If they sub it out to someone else you just need that someone to keep it in production.

 

[nclemmons]

Ryan - IF you are on the waiting list with an order you can join the Shaper community - http://community.shapertools.com - as they are starting to discuss jigs, techniques, the F360 Plugin, etc. 

I think you have to have a tool on order to participate.

Neil

 

[ryanjg117]

I think the spoilerboard concept is a good once, and yes, you could re-use the tape by just putting it on an adjacent work surface of the same height, but that only works if all your workpieces are the same thickness and highly repeatable.

What I'm starting to discover is Shaper is really only a good solution for smaller work. If you're cutting full sheets all day long, the tape is going to kill you.

Moot point as they didn't offer to honor my previous referral discount, nor the second-batch price.

Guess I'll just build a machine for about $1,000 more.

 

[nclemmons]

[member=43074]Aclaw[/member]  - when did you place your order?  Curious as to how far along they are with fulfillment -

 

[Svar]

I think the spoilerboard concept is a good once, and yes, you could re-use the tape by just putting it on an adjacent work surface of the same height, but that only works if all your workpieces are the same thickness and highly repeatable.

I'm sure you can simply enter depth of cut as your material +/- the offset.

I'm actually surprised they went with tape instead of some reusable targets. Moreover, in these days of SfM technology even those are not needed. You can orient your machine just by analyzing surrounding static objects (on the second thought processing time will be limiting).