Shaper Origin deliveries?
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ryanjg117 said:
That it was for smaller occasional work was kinda obvious to me since the day I saw it, with something of this power capacity, to cut full sheets you're looking at literally hours spent guiding that thing by hand, and I assume most will only be able to do this on the floor on their knees.
When you factor in the price of the tape and the time spent guiding it, then I don't know if a professional user can justify using this for production at all vs outsourcing.
I can see though that it could really shine in doing very limited cnc work on custom projects, or for non professional users.
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I for one have no delusion that the Shaper is a replacement for a full CNC table setup. It's not a replacement. It should be looked at as a complimentary method but also a method for ideas, prototyping, one-offs, and so much more. The strength of the Shaper and it's appeal is it's portability, small storage, no footprint in the shop, being able to CNC on a workpiece which can't be brought to a full CNC table.
Sure I'd love to have a full CNC table for both wood and plasma cutting. But that is not going to happen. What the shaper would allow is performing creative CNC work when I want and where I want. I could make templets from MDF to be used for plasma cut pieces, much quicker than a bandsaw and spindle sander.
What goes through my head are the projects just from the last 2 years where I wish I had a Shaper and how much easier something would have been, or I wouldn't have had to outsource something.
Sure I'd love to have a full CNC table for both wood and plasma cutting. But that is not going to happen. What the shaper would allow is performing creative CNC work when I want and where I want. I could make templets from MDF to be used for plasma cut pieces, much quicker than a bandsaw and spindle sander.
What goes through my head are the projects just from the last 2 years where I wish I had a Shaper and how much easier something would have been, or I wouldn't have had to outsource something.
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bnaboatbuilder said:
Please elaborate.
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not my video but you get the idea:
I love my Hypertherm 30xp but hand cutting curves is not very accurate or aesthetically pleasing. One off or repetitive cuts are better with templets.
I love my Hypertherm 30xp but hand cutting curves is not very accurate or aesthetically pleasing. One off or repetitive cuts are better with templets.
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Thanks for the video! I hoped that's what you meant but I had just assumed the wooden template would burn.
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That would be one great use for the shaper, a one off project where a handful of parts are ideally made by CNC. I wouldn't cut out the whole project though, most parts are square and would take ages to cut by a shaper, vs seconds with a table saw.DynaGlide said:
I found this YouTube which shows a project that uses an entire 4 x 8 sheet of plywood and which would likely only be amenable to a conventional CNC machine as an alternative. The author, on his website, states he spent 20 hours building the stool and learning how to use the tool.
IMO, the guy didn't waste any money. Of course, since I'm waiting for mine, I may be biased.
Cheers - Gary
IMO, the guy didn't waste any money. Of course, since I'm waiting for mine, I may be biased.
Cheers - Gary
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I'm pre-ordered for the second run of them. I'm looking at it through the matrix of on site cnc capabilities, jig making, much cooler custom workbenches, etc, etc. I'm thinking I can find uses for it.
Moderately concerned about the tape. If I use it on the jobsite, it incurs a per-use set up fee. At the very least, the cost of a fresh roll of tape.
Moderately concerned about the tape. If I use it on the jobsite, it incurs a per-use set up fee. At the very least, the cost of a fresh roll of tape.
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The guys who came up with the Shaper are pretty amazing. I would venture a guess that they wisely patented everything they could including the design on the tape. You will have to pay to play just like inkjet printers.
I am not criticizing them. I am applauding their business acumen.
Peter
I am not criticizing them. I am applauding their business acumen.
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I'm with Tim on this. I can't see how many professionals will justify the expense of owning and using this. While the stool above is darn clever, I don't see anyone lining up to pay $2100 for one. That's what it'd need to sell for to cover a decent shop rate plus materials given the stated time invested. And that doesn't really leave room for a profit.
If successful, these are going to land in shops like Glide's because they touch a nerve rather than fill a direct need. I don't think they'll be used near as much as people who buy them think they will be.
As for the tape - these guys are geniuses. Recurring Monthly Revenue is the name of the game. And they have the only game in town. Another genius move - create a monopoly.
If successful, these are going to land in shops like Glide's because they touch a nerve rather than fill a direct need. I don't think they'll be used near as much as people who buy them think they will be.
As for the tape - these guys are geniuses. Recurring Monthly Revenue is the name of the game. And they have the only game in town. Another genius move - create a monopoly.
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Still no user videos or real world reviews with it out for a month now. Somewhat surprised.
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