Shaper Origin Up-date?

[WastedP]

For multi-pass pocketing, I program concentric paths in Studio based on the tool diameter.  The Design tab of Studio offers no way to do an offset path, but oddly enough it can be shown in the Plan tab.  However, any offsets made in the Plan tab don't make it to the machine.

I'm guessing that AP will eventually support pocketing in this manner, but there are probably a bunch of obstacles to implementing this that I don't understand.

 

[tjbnwi]

[member=58857]Crazyraceguy[/member]

The unit does have the height adjustable in feed lift. The sheet is placed on the spoil board by a vacuum lift device on the gantry. The cups are circled below.

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The cutting bed on the unit is 5x12. The out feed table is 18’ long. It has the laser with a foot pedal manual override.

There is a down draft system for the out feed. After looking at the picture I see the hose needs to be rerouted. The outer hose is for the dust extraction, the inner hose is for the tables vacuum hold down system. With an altitude of over 7200 above sea level there are 3 pumps for the table, two inboard, one outboard stand alone.

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Tom

 

[PaulMarcel]

Excellent information from everybody. AutoPass seemed like a slam dunk to buy; cheaper overall than lesser-used accessories like edge guides and doesn't take a nail in the wall to hang. As everybody likes it, it's not a half-baked implementation just to get funds.

As little as I use large plans, continuing with Affinity Designer and the extra tool ElectricFeet suggested will suffice for now. Plus this next project involves a lot of photo tracing, which I know how to do in AD!

I do wish they'd offer an a-la-carte model where you could buy a month's use. If the subscription is around ~$8, make the a-la-carte month $15. Acts like a mini-subscription that expires in 30 days, but you could extend it like any subscription.

 

[Crazyraceguy]

[member=58857]Crazyraceguy[/member]

The unit does have the height adjustable in feed lift. The sheet is placed on the spoil board by a vacuum lift device on the gantry. The cups are circled below.

View attachment 1

The cutting bed on the unit is 5x12. The out feed table is 18’ long. It has the laser with a foot pedal manual override.

There is a down draft system for the out feed. After looking at the picture I see the hose needs to be rerouted. The outer hose is for the dust extraction, the inner hose is for the tables vacuum hold down system. With an altitude of over 7200 above sea level there are 3 pumps for the table, two inboard, one outboard stand alone.

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Tom

From that photo, I can see the downdraft extraction. At 18 feet, your outfeed is quite a bit longer than ours, but doesn't seem to have overhead extraction at that point? What is the reasoning behind that length? It's well over the maximum sized sheet that fits the cutting area.
Since I am not an operator of that particular machine, I can't really say how much it helps. I do know how much that downdraft does. It's surprising how much gets trapped between parts because of compression bits. It makes a huge difference as the parts separate some while they move across it.
Sometimes I do run the secondary CNC. The machine itself is exactly the same, it just lacks the infeed and outfeed tables. It's completely manual in that respect. It is primarily there for alternative uses, to stay out of the way of production.
Thanks for sharing

 

[tjbnwi]

[member=58857]Crazyraceguy[/member]

This machine will process a 5x12 sheet, not sure how they calculate the out feed length.

There is no overhead extraction for the outfeed table, the lack of it does not seem to be an issue.

Yep, lots of dust gets packed in the cuts.

Tom

 

[Crazyraceguy]

[member=58857]Crazyraceguy[/member]

This machine will process a 5x12 sheet, not sure how they calculate the out feed length.

There is no overhead extraction for the outfeed table, the lack of it does not seem to be an issue.

Yep, lots of dust gets packed in the cuts.

Tom

Where it is most noticeable is in the dowel holes and shelf pin holes. The normal overhead extraction does pretty well with the rest and the downdraft gets the packed in stuff.
A few months after it was installed, I built a collector-box at the end of the conveyor belt too. There was always a line of crumbs on the floor where the rollers dropped it. It's even plumbed into the rest of the duct work, so it's self cleaning.

 

[tjbnwi]

I plan on fabricating a collector for the outfeed drop area, like you in a few months....

Tom

 

[tjbnwi]

I used the Origin today. Happy yo report Auto Pass worked just fine.

For those on the fence Auto Pass makes the Origin a totally different in a better way machine.

Tom

 

[rmwarren]

I used the Origin today. Happy yo report Auto Pass worked just fine.

For those on the fence Auto Pass makes the Origin a totally different in a better way machine.

Tom

Tom, thanks for the update. I've been staring at the little blue dot for the past couple of weeks but was holding off.

RMW

 

[Crazyraceguy]

Apparently the up-date didn't do anything negative to mine. I have been using it more frequently than ever before with no issues. If it was just the Auto-Pass, then nothing happened. If there were any "bug fixes" or performance enhancements, they were so smooth that I didn't even notice

 

[4nthony]

I was doing some on-tool design the other day and encountered this:

I thought it was interesting that it went into "RECOVERING" mode before displaying the kernel panic.

It didn't happen while cutting, just designing. After unplug/plug, it is working fine and even restored the design I was working on when it came back online.

 

[tjbnwi]

I cut 7 different pieces today. First time I ever used the on tool design because 6 were simple rectangles the 7th was a rectangle with 2” radius corners. The process went flawlessly.

I’ll use the on tool function for the simple ones in the future, all the rest will be designed in Fusion 360.

Tom

 

[tjbnwi]

We needed a table to support the CNC machine. The pallet the machine shipped on was used to make the table.

I digitized the company logo in Fusion 360. Sent to Hub, download into the Shaper, Zach engraved the logo into the top and epoxy filled it.

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Tom

 

[Crazyraceguy]

I cut 7 different pieces today. First time I ever used the on tool design because 6 were simple rectangles the 7th was a rectangle with 2” radius corners. The process went flawlessly.

I’ll use the on tool function for the simple ones in the future, all the rest will be designed in Fusion 360.

Tom

Really? never, that's wild. That was the first thing I did. Actually, the hashtag Shapermade lettering was the first thing I did.
I use the on-tool feature quite a bit, though things have gotten much more involved as I have gotten into Studio. I was struggling with Inkscape, but it is nowhere near as intuitive, plus the depth encoding and preview. The shapeshifter is really great, probably my favorite feature. The only thing I am really missing there is the ability to just "draw a line" like you can with the pen tool in the on-tool menu.
I have downloaded Fusion and messed with it some, but it is way overkill for 2D machining.
Someday I want to get into 3D printing, so the need will be there then.

I still have the # piece at work.

I was doing some on-tool design the other day and encountered this:

I thought it was interesting that it went into "RECOVERING" mode before displaying the kernel panic.

It didn't happen while cutting, just designing. After unplug/plug, it is working fine and even restored the design I was working on when it came back online.

That would scare me to death, sweating until it came back.
It still freaks me out every to that you just unplug the thing to shut it off. There is no "shut down" procedure.....really?

 

[WastedP]

I had power go out at a customer's house where I was cutting an undermount sink hole (super exact) in Richlite with the SO.  Since it was mid-cut, the bit did not retract.  Since it was Richlite, it was one of multiple roughing passes (pre-Autopass).  Luckily, the wobble it put in the cutout came out during the finishing pass.  However, when the power came back on hours later, and I returned to the jobsite and plugged the SO back in, it "remembered" what was cut and uncut.  The last few inches of the cut weren't retained, but I was surprised how close it was.

I remember them saying during one of the Shaper sessions that they wanted to make the tool as familiar as any other router, which included the "just un/plug it" ethos.

 

[tjbnwi]

[member=58857]Crazyraceguy[/member],

Yes, never before. Most of the designs I do I’m nowhere near the Shaper. I’ll create designs while vegging in the recliner with the noise of what ever show my wife is watching on the TV in the background (if it was my choice it would be music).

I use Fusion to design some crazy things and stress test them. A 3D printer and a laser are in my future. Have to recover from the CNC machine so afore mentioned wife doesn’t kill me…

Tom

 

[Crazyraceguy]

I do pretty much the same thing, except the wife part.  [wink]
I did quite a bit of on-tool, in the beginning, because I could actually make it work for me. Studio has been a game changer. It is so direct, since it was designed to be exactly that.
I'm somewhat torn on the next thing, it's probably going to be a 3D printer. I would like to have a Onefinity CNC machine at home too.
I like the Shaper for it's unique abilities, but a "push the button and watch it go" machine has it's appeal too.
At this point, I make storage/organization stuff for myself and use it for hardware installations for work.
It keeps the office guys from having to stop work on production work to deal with me. I don't have to interrupt them for templates......that they should have known I needed in the first place [cool]