Shhhhh! Sawstop will release new portable jobsite table saw shortly!!

[Stephen B]

My solution is multiple 330ml Little Creatures Pale Ales. May just get a SawStop to use as a bar ... they're certainly a talking point [wink]

[big grin] can we treat it with surfix?

Untidy Shop, do they offer a stout? One of my favorites is from a local brewpub, better than Guinness by my tastes, unfortunately it sells out often. http://www.rivercitybrewing.net

Funny how beer can make anything better.

EDIT: found the stout at the prickly moses site, is it any good?

[size=14pt]

Sorry Paul, Stout is the only one I have not tried. Although I like dark ales, for some reason I do not like stout.  [embarassed]

 

[Paul G]

Sorry Paul, Stout is the only one I have not tried. Although I like dark ales, for some reason I do not like stout.  [embarassed]

That's not unusual, unlike my general aversion to IPA which around here is akin to not liking water. Stout, porter or bock is my typical, or anything else that might be light on the hops, the less the better for me. Thankfully some local brewpubs are offering more product in that range. At least new beers are easier to try than a sawstop (feeble attempt at remaining on topic  [big grin])

 

[Stephen B]

Sorry Paul, Stout is the only one I have not tried. Although I like dark ales, for some reason I do not like stout.  [embarassed]

That's not unusual, unlike my general aversion to IPA which around here is akin to not liking water. Stout, porter or bock is my typical, or anything else that might be light on the hops, the less the better for me. Thankfully some local brewpubs are offering more product in that range. At least new beers are easier to try than a sawstop (feeble attempt at remaining on topic  [big grin])

[size=14pt]Another local, even more micro than Prickly Moses.

Their Irish Red Ale is great.

And there is Stout too Paul.

http://www.forrestbrewing.com.au/beer

Anyway enough about beer, time to get to some domino work,  [smile] and there is mowing too!  [eek]

 

[semenza]

Sorry Paul, Stout is the only one I have not tried. Although I like dark ales, for some reason I do not like stout.  [embarassed]

That's not unusual, unlike my general aversion to IPA which around here is akin to not liking water. Stout, porter or bock is my typical, or anything else that might be light on the hops, the less the better for me. Thankfully some local brewpubs are offering more product in that range. At least new beers are easier to try than a sawstop (feeble attempt at remaining on topic  [big grin])

  Yeah, I can't get on the IPA bandwagon either. Out of probably twenty that I've tried there are maybe two that I sort of like. If I had to choose a single type it would be porter. I like others besides dark  also , just not into the IPA, bitter weeds flavor.

Seth

 

[andvari]

Untidy Shop, do they offer a stout? One of my favorites is from a local brewpub, better than Guinness by my tastes, unfortunately it sells out often. http://www.rivercitybrewing.net

Funny how beer can make anything better.

EDIT: found the stout at the prickly moses site, is it any good?

This time of year, especially given the cold I'd be partial to a nice Stout.

I'm partial to Victory Brewing Co so here is what the label looks like.

This one has more hops than most stouts, so if that's not your taste, you were warned.

 

[Michael Kellough]

This time of year is cider time.

 

[Birdhunter]

I strive to be as safe in the shop as I possibly can be. My Sawstop Industrial is one additional layer of protection. It doesn't make me any less careful and I don't care about the politics of mandating the technology. If I could get a Sawstop feature in every power tool, I'd buy it. Eyes and fingers are irreplaceable.

Apart from the safety feature, my Sawstop is a very fine product and the customer support is excellent.

 

[Wooden Skye]

The best combination would be the Saw Stop, Guinness edition.  It would have finger saving technology on the blade and bottle opener, you could also get the pony keg version! 

 

[tiralie]

 

[Tinker]

I like most darks myself.  But not a great fan of stout.
I like the darks the way they drink it where my wife comes from >>> room temp and plenty.
just to stay on topic, I don't take any kind of brew other than coffee, tea or water into my shop or anyplace else where power tools or equipment are being used ... SawStop type tech or not.
Tinker

 

[HunterL]

So... any news on the new saw?  [tongue]

 

[grbmds]

The projected date was approximately 1-2 months before it would be shipped to dealers according to Gass.

 

[Wooden Skye]

I like most darks myself.  But not a great fan of stout.
I like the darks the way they drink it where my wife comes from >>> room temp and plenty.
just to stay on topic, I don't take any kind of brew other than coffee, tea or water into my shop or anyplace else where power tools or equipment are being used ... SawStop type tech or not.
Tinker

Tinker

My comment was a joke to lighten the mood of this thread, the only beverage I have in the shop is a cold bottle of water.

 

[Samo]

Info out mid December according to the SS sales dept.

 

[JeromeM]

Wouldn't making SawStop-type brakes mandatory be similar to banning dado blades as in Europe (I believe)? 

Just a correction dado blades are not banned in Europe or the UK this is an idea that just won't die.

In the UK the case is that if you have employees you have to have a proper guard system, break system, the saw must be designed to accept a daido blade and the cut width must not exceed 15.5cm.

If a company does not fulfil their duty of care and an accident happens, a company can be held responsible and prosecuted and they frequently are.

So the way that is often seen in the US, of running a dado blade with no guard and where (because of the mass of the blade) it can't be braked fast enough, is against HSE advice. However if the saw blade can be stopped within the correct time (10 seconds) and the blade is properly guarded it is completely OK

Also H&S have nothing to say about private users. The UK point of view is "in your own home workshop. Safety is your responsibility and if you have an accident it's your fault"
http://www.greatbritishwoodshop.co.uk/Tools/HealthandSafety/tabid/418/language/en-US/Default.aspx

Amazon wouldn't sell an illegal tool.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/8-inch-Stacked-DADO-HEAD/dp/B00FIPAE3U

A further point on the table saw litigation, if you listen to shop talk live no. 72 they highlight the case where Ryobi have successfuly defended a table saw accident case.

The point they illustrate is that it is always possible to make a safer product. The example is roll cages in cars that would make them safer but few people have them. Car makers are not having to defend cases where a roll cage would have prevented injury or death.

The previous cases were lost in part due to not using the correct legal argument. That being that few tools could not be made safer but if they meet the current safty standard the manufacturer is not liable.

The case that was successfuly defended was one in which the very experienced user took off the guard because he had added an out feed table that he didn't notch to allow for the guard and that was too narrow.

The jury in the Chicago case ruled unanimously that the Ryobi table saw, which complied with Underwriters Laboratory 987 and other standards such as those from the Occupational Safety and Health Administration, was not negligently designed or unreasonably dangerous.

http://www.woodworkersjournal.com/ryobi-wins-table-saw-safety-litigation/

A reason for the US rules not mandating SawStop technology is that it is patented and the OHSA is not permitted to require that a patented technology is required.

On a personal note if I were in the market for a new table saw of any kind I would probably buy a SawStop.

 

[wtrimman]

Great! Own the contractors saw and the cabinet saw. No matter how safe you try to be accidents will happen and I am more comfortable knowing that I have a backup safety .